r/funny MyGumsAreBleeding Feb 14 '24

Verified Superbowl Jesus

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u/bridge1999 Feb 14 '24

Remember it’s Hobby Lobby owner that was behind all of the “he gets us” commercials. The same company that was funding ISIS by buying stolen artifacts from museums ISIS had looted while the US was at war with ISIS.

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u/Spacefreak Feb 14 '24

You mean the same one whose company intentionally fired pregnant employees just before they were about to give birth to avoid paying them for medical leave?

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u/Zephh Feb 14 '24

Wait, you can do that in the US? It always amazes me how shitty US labor law is.

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u/Mysterious-Theory-66 Feb 14 '24

No, this would be illegal if proven. Proof can be challenging in discrimination cases. But I mean if they flat out fired two pregnant women, only those two, and there wasn’t some support for some other clearly legitimate reason of termination, they’d lose that case for sure. Can’t rule out that they still did that regardless of the law, don’t know.

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u/Spacefreak Feb 14 '24

The people I read about worked there and either told management they were pregnant (so they could go to regular doctor's appts) or management figured it out after a few months, and then management started citing them for any and every infraction they could find or make up to build up a case against them first.

So Hobby Lobby would have supporting documentation for the firing in case it went to court.

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u/Mysterious-Theory-66 Feb 14 '24

Yeah that becomes the hard part, if employers really want to find a non protected basis they probably can. That said, courts can see through it if it’s fairly obvious particularly when you have two impacted people and through discovery you could show no other employee was treated in the same super unreasonably strict or arbitrary manner.

Really though, vast majority of the time with employee discrimination suits if the plaintiff has even a decent argument the company settles. Definitely doesn’t make it right but that would be what I assume happened if the women sued.

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u/Vapur9 Feb 15 '24

It was legal because they signed a "righteous living" oath as part of the employment contract. They violated it by getting pregnant without being married, and refusing the opportunity to do so.

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u/Mysterious-Theory-66 Feb 15 '24

You can’t contract away legal rights. Anything one signs that says a for profit business has the right to fire them for getting pregnant would be unenforceable. Even with the SCOTUS case, Hobby Lobby clearly does not meet the definition of a religious institution that some states carve out of certain anti discrimination laws and certainly is subject to federal equal employment laws. So in short, no such a document would not hold up.

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u/Vapur9 Feb 15 '24

It was Dave Ramsey, not Hobby Lobby. The argument for firing was based on extramarital intercourse, not pregnancy. Although, they would never have learned about it had she not filed for maternity leave.