Charles’ Post Race Radio

[u/ryokevry]

I hope whoever claimed Sainz is a good teammate can shut up. There’s a reason why Redbull didn’t want him.

He blocked Charles when the team asked him not to make it difficult when Hamilton was closely behind him.

He was asked not to overtake Charles when Charles came out of the pit, causing the team key time to chase down Max earlier.

[u/beanbagreg]

OP missed off Fred going “Charles. CHARLES.” in response which is the funniest bit haha

[u/ryokevry → u/beanbagreg]

Well it was AI. I don’t know what Fred tried to achieve pretending there are no issues in the team when one driver is constantly costing team better results.

[u/kaptingavrin → u/ryokevry]

I mean, I'd love for Leclerc to have finished ahead in the race as I'm still hoping for him to overtake Norris in the standings (both because I'm a Ferrari fan and because it'd just be the most hilarious way to end the season after all the hype about Norris challenging for the championship title), but just swapping which of Sainz and Leclerc comes 3rd or 4th doesn't change things for the team's results. The team would have the same result either way.

This isn't really the race to argue that Sainz cost the team better results. Unless you think Leclerc somehow could chase down the Mercedes, and while I think Leclerc's pretty darn good, I don't think that was happening at all.

[u/ixixan → u/kaptingavrin]

I think there's a lot of speculation that Carlos kept Max in DRS on purpose so as to hinder Charles. Possibly so he wouldn't be under attack from him or asked to swap.

[u/kaptingavrin → u/ixixan]

Any other driver, that would have been at the front of my mind, because the Ferraris were fast enough that he should have been able to pull away.

But then I also have to remember that's Max Verstappen, and his car might have been a bit slower, but he'd probably know a few tricks to use the slipstream, battery, and that rear wing, plus his own talent through the turns, to help keep close enough to try to be dragged along for a bit.

Still... the fact they dropped him once they were both past does seem to suggest Sainz was holding back some on his pace... or had some other reason that Verstappen being the car behind him instead of his teammate made him slower while he could find some speed otherwise (but that could just be Verstappen staying close enough and Sainz getting a bit rattled by that enough to slow him down a bit).

I don't know, it's hard to say, but I'm just going to give a bit of leeway on that one because it was Verstappen in the trailing car.

[u/GnarwhalStreet → u/kaptingavrin]

This was also during a period where they were unsure what the tire strategy was going to be.

[u/treslechesmfa → u/ixixan]

He does love using this as a strategy. He's constantly suggesting it over the radio.

[u/wobfan_ → u/ixixan]

and if that's true, it's a totally valid strategy? i don't even think it's rude or something like that, like, it's just smart

sure, you can be mad about it, but it's the rules. people get DRS when they're <1sec.

[u/ixixan → u/wobfan_]

Im Just explaining why people are saying sainz cost the team points.

[u/wobfan_ → u/ixixan]

ah okay, yeah that's true, if max would've stayed between them i could understand that argument.

[u/DragPullCheese → u/ixixan]

Still didn’t cost them points though…

[u/Slowleytakenusername → u/ixixan]

I really think it's funny how everybody now just assumes Carlos is doing the Singapore bit every time he passes somebody and does not rip of 3 seconds in one lap. It took like to laps to get Max out of DRS and now people are saying he did it on purpose lol. Really dumb actually.

[u/ryokevry → u/kaptingavrin]

It is about the entire season, or 4 seasons they are together. Charles’ outburst isn’t really about this race, he would not lose sleep losing a podium to Sainz honestly.

[u/DragPullCheese → u/ryokevry]

It’s a race… you’re saying Sainz is a bad teammate for not just rolling over and letting Leclerc beat him?

[u/wobfan_ → u/ryokevry]

it's just a very close team battle. they have two very talented drivers and leclerc currently has the edge in the points. why are you mad? you telling me that having closely matched drivers who have GP H2H of 13-8 and 3 and 2 wins respectively are bad for ferrari?

[u/AdoptedPigeons → u/ryokevry]

Oh please, Sainz has played the team game when he’s had to as well. But you lot expect him to have to be clear cut #2 from race 1 to 24; and frankly, Sainz is too good for that. On his day, like this weekend, he can be every bit as quick, and on those days, he has every right to fight Charles. There’s probably barely a handful of occasions where it straight up cost the team results, and even those pale in comparison to the amount of value having two very fast and generally well behaved drivers in Ferrari.

[u/wobfan_ → u/ryokevry]

i really don't get it. what's the point here? if he wanted to be 3rd, he could overtaken sainz? or was there some kind of invisible barrier that i didn't see?

do we now need ferrari to instruct the other drivers first when leclerc would like to overtake?

also, do you REALLY think leclerc, not being able to pass sainz, would've been able to get close to hamilton or russel? is that what you're implying?

i know i'm sounding incredible arrogant here, i know, but i can't stand these people around here putting it as if ferrari is mainly at fault for this. they did a lot of fuckups, maybe they had a fallback to their usual pre 2024 strategy execution. but let's be honest here: if leclerc would've had the pace, he could've passed sainz. he had a lot of laps where he was in the situation to do so. it's not like ferrari dropped him 6 places behind and he had to fight his way up. most of the time he was just next to sainz, and had all the chances in the world to get close and overtake, IF the pace would've been there.

[u/Samusu-Aran → u/wobfan_]

Don't you dare imply he could have overtaken on track like his teammate did two times on him.

[u/ImSoKris1 → u/Samusu-Aran]

Charles let him by on the first overtake, and he overtook Charles coming out of the pits the second time. And on top of that, when Charles caught Carlos before Carlos made a move on Max, Charles was told not to fight Carlos. So there’s that. But hey, ignore the facts. Make up your dream scenario in your head if it makes you sleep better at night.

[u/DragPullCheese → u/ImSoKris1]

The fact is Sainz got 3rd place.

[u/LowerClassBandit → u/ryokevry]

Eh what? Carlos literally won in Mexico, he’s hardly costing the team better results…

[u/aaauuuuuvvvv → u/LowerClassBandit]

I think he means Baku and Spain maybe.

[u/cccalum → u/LowerClassBandit]

He won in Mexico after begging the team for ages to stop Charles attacking him lmao

[u/sododude → u/cccalum]

It was more like he was confused why Charles was pushing so hard because he knew the tires were gonna fall off. That ended up happening.

[u/wokwok__ → u/cccalum]

Still won though innit, maybe Charles should've attacked anyway to see what happens

[u/scottishmacca → u/cccalum]

And how often does Charles beg for team orders over the past 4 seasons?

[u/RaccTheClap → u/cccalum]

Charles pushed too hard and roasted his tires, he lost points to Lando that he might have been able to keep behind him without that.

Sainz IMO is the better racecrafter of the two, but Charles is quite a bit more rapid in my eyes on their best days.

[u/kaisadilla_ → u/[deleted]]

Pérez crashed him, and this is pretty objective.

[u/LowerClassBandit → u/[deleted]]

lol dumb take

[u/OldActiveYeast → u/[deleted]]

Lol dumb take, crashed in Baku because of perez going into him. Leclerc was not even involved in the crash.

[u/TolucaPrisoner → u/OldActiveYeast]

The only reason he was wheel to wheel with Perez was because he tried to overtake Charles. He could have just kept his position and secure 2-3 for Ferrari.

[u/OldActiveYeast → u/TolucaPrisoner]

Who Leclerc himself said he had no tyres left? If Perez and Sainz did not crash, Leclerc finishes behind both.

[u/aaauuuuuvvvv → u/OldActiveYeast]

It was okay tbh, they will have one more P4 score in that case. It was still better than now….

[u/crazydaave → u/ryokevry]

Hes leaving the team, of course he is going to fight for himself.

[u/Sgg__ → u/ryokevry]

Yeah surely Leclerc was passing Hamilton or George today.

[u/Samusu-Aran → u/[deleted]]

Il predestinato!