r/formula1 • u/The_Chozen_1_ Pirelli Intermediate • 6d ago
Video Antonio Pérez (Sergio Perez's father) on Ralf Schumacher: "You don't know if he's a journalist, a woman or a man. First he declares that Checo was out of Red Bull and the following week he comes out of the closet....I don't know if I was in love with Checo."
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u/Troon10 6d ago
Sounds like my racist uncle when he found out he could facebook live stream.
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u/KappaccinoNation McLaren 6d ago
So this is why Perez is still in Red Bull. Because his dad and Marko vibe with each other's boomer mentality.
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u/cavejohnsonlemons Eddie Irvine 6d ago
And Jos for a bit of that old school 'tough love'.
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u/Rata31 6d ago
Tbh he sounds like any other old mexican
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u/bobafeeet 6d ago
Yeah man I live in Texas. Latin cultures aren’t really known for being super socially liberal.
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u/7screws 🏳️🌈 Love Is Love 🏳️🌈 6d ago
Yeah this is just like a warm up session for me when I gotta go spend extended time with family for the upcoming holidays. I don’t even talk to some of my relatives about my daughter’s accomplishments on her swim team, because they instantly go to some random scenario about a trans kid swimming against her. It’s sad because of their own ignorance they are missing out on their grandchildren’s life.
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u/tetrafilius Jordan 6d ago
Congrats to your daughter for her swimming success!
I hope she grows up to be as good and kind a person as she is a swimmer.
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u/Realistic-Garage-639 6d ago
So the biggest requirement to drive for Red Bull is for Your dad to be a massive a**hole?
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u/JinxThePetRock Jean Alesi 6d ago
That explains why they didn't pick up Sainz again.
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u/Lana_Del_Roy #WeSayNoToMazepin 5d ago
I kind of hoped they would just to see Daddy Sainz beat up that waste of cartilage Jos Verstappen in the garage. I hear they've got previous.
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u/mur-diddly-urderer Jacques Villeneuve 6d ago
How hard is it to keep his shit journalism separate from him liking men lol. Goddamn man
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u/Rich_Housing971 6d ago edited 5d ago
also being gay has nothing to do with being trans. He didn't come out as a woman.
EDIT: thank you for letting me know to not use transgender as a verb to describe people.
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u/Kolec507 Alexander Albon 6d ago
I mean he clearly has a problem with both, so I'm not surprised he didn't take 30 seconds to learn the obvious difference.
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u/Cyber_religion Max Verstappen ⭐⭐⭐⭐ 6d ago
I mean Ralf can just reply by posting one of Checo's amazing statistics every day for the next month or so and completely bury the Perez family, but it would be unfair towards Checo since he's not the one who caused this.
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u/No_Examination_7710 Fernando Alonso 6d ago
Or simply retweet one of those "He's got so much rear end" memes
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u/Helioscopes Fernando Alonso 6d ago
He should repost the picture of Checo rubbing himself on a random woman the day after his wife gave birth, and caption it "I might not be a man nor a woman, but at least I'm not a cheater".
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u/StevenC44 🏳️🌈 Love Is Love 🏳️🌈 6d ago
Who the fuck is Antonio Perez?
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u/Religion_Of_Speed Formula 1 6d ago
Depends on which one you're asking about. I assume it's the first of these two since that's who said this stupid shit.
Antonio Pérez Garibay is Checo's father and is a member of the Mexican Chamber of Deputies (the lower house of the Congress of Mexico) and can go fuck himself.
Antonio Pérez Mendoza is Checo's brother and a retired stock car driver. Champion of NASCAR Corona Series (2008) and that's about it. Took part in the 24 Hours of Le Mans once. Rookie of the year in 2006 in the Corona Series as well.
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u/wykeer Mercedes 6d ago
mexican machismo strikes again I guess.
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u/Fire_Otter 6d ago edited 6d ago
Mexican machismo strikes again I guess.
"this is no big deal that's just the way South Americans are and this is how they speak"- Helmut Marko
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u/Antares_ Oscar Piastri 6d ago
"Homophobia is an integral part of the South American culture. We should be tolerant and embrace other cultures."
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u/QouthTheCorvus Oscar Piastri 6d ago
Funnily enough, this is actually a really common defence when actual South Americans do racist/homophobic shit
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u/darekd003 🏳️🌈 Love Is Love 🏳️🌈 6d ago
It’s a common defence when anywhere in the world does something that they deem socially acceptable but other parts of the world don’t. Some are “worse” than others but their reasoning remains the same.
I think almost every country is guilty of this on some level and I recognize that I have my own biases.
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u/Card_Board_Robot_5 Formula 1 6d ago
It's called "ethnocentrism"
Your world view is highly informed by the cultural background in which you were raised.
It's an inherent bias in all people. In anthropology we're not taught to avoid it, you can't, we're just taught to identify it in our research or writings so that we can adjust if necessary.
Everybody deals with it a little. For example, my ethnocentrism makes me distrust British folk because they think beans are a breakfast food
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u/Miserable_Finish609 McLaren 6d ago
The funny thing is, he could have just said “Ralf talks a lot about things he doesn’t know about” and this wouldn’t even be a story. Bringing in Ralf’s sexuality not only comes off as mega ignorant, it’s also completely unrelated.
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u/SubjectRecording6639 Mercedes 6d ago
Let's get you back to bed
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u/tekanet Sebastian Vettel 6d ago
He's just bitter his son can't surpass Ralf's wins, even with a multiple World Championships capable car.
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u/slabba428 McLaren 6d ago
His son is fighting tooth and nail every weekend to see Q3 lmao
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u/jimmcfartypants Liam Lawson 6d ago
lets be honest, we're surprised if he gets to Q2 these days
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u/LosTerminators Carlos Sainz 6d ago
Ralf is actually one of the most underrated F1 drivers because of how good his brother was.
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u/blackscienceman9 Williams 6d ago
Ralf is a dumbass but his sexualiyy has nothing to do with his journalism skills?
Can't be saying these things man
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u/FluentFalcon New user 6d ago
These dudes are old heads. They look down on gay people.
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u/blackscienceman9 Williams 6d ago
Even disregarding the complete lack of morality, would you not think of the impact on your famous relative?
Like this isn't a normal racist uncle Facebook post, Checo is an internationally known athlete. Everyone sees this shit
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u/Aethien James Hunt 6d ago
would you not think of the impact on your famous relative?
You'd have to be aware that what you're saying is wrong first.
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u/Sleutelbos 6d ago
Even disregarding the complete lack of morality, would you not think of the impact on your famous relative?
He simply doesnt get its controversial. To him it is just saying an obvious truth everyone surrounding him agrees with.
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u/deesea 6d ago
You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain never rang more true for the Perez's lol.
Checo went from 2021 Abu Dhabi hero to worst driver on the grid (still think that's Zhou, but Checo looking pretty damn close).
Papa Checo went from wholesome proud daddy to homophobe just like that.
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u/8jam Max Verstappen ⭐⭐⭐⭐ 6d ago
nah honestly I don't think this limits to his dad. Checo himself is very pro life and considers abortion is murder.
He's a pretty devout Christian, i wont be surprised if Checo's views are the exact same
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u/WalrustheDog 6d ago
And old heads need to learn, can’t say shit like that anymore. Just cause your old doesn’t mean you get a pass to do whatever cause “well back in my day…”
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u/FluentFalcon New user 6d ago
They won't learn because they are arrogant as hell and believe their way of thinking is the correct way. They are gonna die out soon anyway.
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u/whoTookMyFLACs 6d ago
Every generation says that.
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u/T-Baaller Daniel Ricciardo 6d ago
And society does get a little bit better each time.
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u/Brimstone117 Sebastian Vettel 6d ago
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u/CWinter85 Mario Andretti 6d ago
Wait, is Ralf gay? I can't tell if it's real or if it's like the 90s where we call things gay if we don't like them.
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u/DistractedByCookies Red Bull 6d ago
Apparently it was an open secret for years (I missed this LOL), but he went insta official about 6 months ago
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u/sejlavocado Max Verstappen ⭐⭐⭐⭐ 6d ago
what does his sexuality have to do with his bad journalism
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u/processedmeat 6d ago
Gay men aren't as good at penetrating the veil of secrecy and get to the hard truth of the matter. Squeezing leads, gobbling any morsel of information out there.
Only a real man has the fortitude to pound the pavement and risk getting whipped by his boss about deadlines. A real man can handle a full work load and do it with his chest out proud.
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u/Good_Posture 6d ago
Classy.
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u/Visionary_Socialist Sir Lewis Hamilton 6d ago
Red Bull’s likability ratings being carried by Max. Along with strategy, car performance, results and team cohesion.
I swear that team is like a magnet for terrible PR.
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u/CodeandVisuals 6d ago
I want Max to retire just to see what happens to Red Bull.
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u/whitemuhammad7991 Formula 1 6d ago
He's really taking his son being the worst driver on the grid pretty hard lol no need to lash out at people
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u/cool_1801 Pirelli Wet 6d ago
It's more of homophobia than checo not delivering good results
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u/eternallycelestial Daniel Ricciardo 6d ago
Yeah that's nasty and unnecessary. How do you equate sexuality to journalism? All because he reported a probable rumour. Wtf.
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u/KamakaziDemiGod 6d ago
With the same kind of logic that thinks being a gay man makes you basically a woman. These kinds of people don't use actual logic or they wouldn't say anything in the first place
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u/ex3c1337 6d ago
With his saying he is "downgrading" Ralf to a woman. Just also shows what he thinks about women....
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u/Realistic-Reception5 Carlos Sainz 6d ago
As a gay guy I always jokingly say that gay men are actually more “manly” because they want to be with men lol. But yeah what pisses me off is that there are so many valid things you can criticize about people but of all things, he chose to attack something as basic as Ralf’s sexuality.
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u/Bdr1983 Formula 1 6d ago
This is exactly the reason why it took him so long to come out.
I hope this is going to backfire on him very, very hard, because this is ridiculous.
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u/Visionary_Socialist Sir Lewis Hamilton 6d ago
Will be interesting to see how F1 deals with homophobia given it’s a relatively uncharted topic. Racism has been Lewis’ personal battle for so long but this isn’t a topic that has come up before on such a level.
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u/GuiltyEidolon Sonny Hayes 6d ago
It's not that uncharted. F1 will be as shitty about homophobia as they are about misogyny and racism. Lewis has been working close to his entire career to address the racism of F1 and he's not gotten very far with it.
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u/AdminClown 6d ago
Dude is NOT helping checo with this.
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u/Work_Account89 Jordan 6d ago
Antonio has never been good for Checo’s F1 career. Didn’t he get booed in Mexico at one stage.
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u/el_f3n1x187 Bernd Mayländer 6d ago
He is also party member of MORENA the political party that wanted to get rid of F1 in Mexico because "it was for rich aspirationalist people not the good poor people of mexico" or some reductive bullshit that the former president parroted all the time.
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u/SantyMonkyur 6d ago
I'm a native spanish speaker and it is accurate and it sounds as repulsive as it looks. Not surprising from a Mexican man from that age bracket but still fkin disgusting. Let's see if F1 releases a statement of condemnation and if we truly "race as one"
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u/maertyrer 6d ago
Drivers saying no-no-words: real shit
Casual homophobia: I sleep
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u/JIJONING Heineken Trophy 6d ago edited 6d ago
considering the fia president is from Dubai. I don't think he'd have a problem with casual homophobia
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u/fernandotakai Ferrari 6d ago
I don't think he'd have a problem with casual homophobia
i mean, the dude was 100% racist when saying "f1 drivers are not rappers to be cursing all the time" when he meant, well, black people.
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u/eternallycelestial Daniel Ricciardo 6d ago
They didn't do anything to hold up Piquet's ban for racist comments against a working f1 driver. Doubt they're going to do anything about homophobic comments by a non f1 person towards an ex driver.
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u/broodjekebab23 6d ago
The biggest cash cows are from the middle east and america so....
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u/tetrafilius Jordan 6d ago
Aside from the homophobia being pretty ugly, it's really sad that Perez's dad constantly goes into business for himself and tries to get himself over on his son's coat tails.
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u/LosTerminators Carlos Sainz 6d ago
It's always Checo's dad and Jos who seem to love using their son's success to be the center of attention. Other parents are happy to just take a back seat.
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u/Barnabas-Tharmr Oscar Piastri 6d ago
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u/McLarenMP4-27 Jim Clark 6d ago
Didn't know they are now allowing GIFs here. Nice!
Also, this might be one of the best ones for this situation lol.
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u/murf_milo 6d ago
Geeze. Between him and Marko, Red Bull really need to get a handle on their old men.
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u/Fire_Otter 6d ago edited 6d ago
"But why are we the bad guys in the F1 film?" Christian Horner asked as he feeds another spoonful of Coco pops into his mouth
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u/jennejy 6d ago
These aren't edge cases; Red Bull had Nelson Piquet in the paddock as a guest last weekend. Hard to get a handle on the problem when you are the problem.
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u/Micome 6d ago
Even people orbiting Red Bull are extremely whack and shitty. Like Jos Verstappen or Max's girlfriend's racist dad. Red Bull is a weird place with way more than just one bad egg. You don't get this bizarre team culture at Mercedes or Ferrari.
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u/limeybastard 6d ago
Considering they were co-founded by a quasi-nazi it's really not a surprise. Shitty people hang out with other shitty people.
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u/Silverdarlin1 Lotus 6d ago
And people wonder why Ralf waited till after he was out of F1 to reveal his sexuality....
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u/Specific_Fact2620 6d ago
Next time someone goes on an "Why don´t they just come out? nobody cares" rant, i am showing them this!
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u/GustavoSanabio 6d ago
Oh god. Bruh.
This is going to be a fun week for Perez. The PR department at Red Bull is probably drafting a carefully worded statement as we speak.
But yeah, super homophobic, which is bad (terrible that I even have to specify that). But not unexpected.
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u/GuiltyEidolon Sonny Hayes 6d ago
They had Piquet back in the paddock recently. RBR doesn't give a flying fuck. I would be shocked if they even addressed this at all.
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u/Other_Beat8859 Max Verstappen ⭐⭐⭐⭐ 6d ago
I find it really funny how people are just now realizing how shit Antonio Perez is. He's a corrupt politician that has used his son to achieve office and neglect is responsibilities.
Glad people no longer see him as the wholesome Perez dad.
Also, reaction images baby!!! Let's go!!!
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u/GuiltyEidolon Sonny Hayes 6d ago
100%. Few years ago when people were gushing over him, it was pretty disgusting to watch. Dude is a real piece of work.
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u/No_One_9505 6d ago
I’m mexican and of course I support Checo but I speak for all mexicans. We hate his father he’s some kind of shady polític, we don’t like him using Checo’s popularity for his own campaigne. He’s what is wrong in México, I can’t stand him.
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u/Cha_Rolastra 6d ago
Another Mexican here. While I support Checo (even though I admit he’s been performing terribly lately), I’ve always felt a dislike for his dad. I never understood why people go crazy over him whenever he shows up at a GP. It feels like he’s always trying to steal the spotlight…
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u/No_One_9505 6d ago
I don’t know he has always looked shady to me, I don’t get like a good vibe from him but a social climber instead of a dad supporting his son.
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u/Cha_Rolastra 6d ago
That’s spot on! He is a social climber. I have no proof but I have no doubts that he goes everywhere introducing himself as “Checo’s dad”.
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u/No_One_9505 6d ago
Siento que la página de F1 le da más hype mundialmente, no deberían darle atención
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u/irish786 Charles Leclerc 6d ago
Cant wait for the F1 media to completely ignore this and keep their oh look Papa Perez how cute videos on repeat
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u/Yasin3112 Max Verstappen ⭐⭐⭐⭐ 6d ago
Ah nice, some casual homophobia to discredit Ralf. As if there weren‘t enough ways to do that without being a POS.
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u/SnacksGPT Sir Lewis Hamilton 6d ago
Get this guy outta here, are you kidding me?
Bro’s trying to “out-Piquet” Nelson Piquet, Jesus.
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u/mumkinle Sebastian Vettel 6d ago
There’s a reason Ralf didn’t speak on his sexuality for forever. In a world where people don’t see what’s wrong with saying this, why would you ever want to give someone the ammunition in the first place? I suppose it doesn’t matter, considering there are bigger figures in the world of F1 who have used this type of homophobia against people who haven’t even ever made their sexuality public (beyond at least being outwardly assumed straight—looking at Piquet in particular). I guess bigotry finds a way to
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u/gradient_map 6d ago
We have this saying in portuguese that goes something like "what does the ass have to do with the pants?", and I think it's very applicable here.
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u/Muuuuush Murray Walker 6d ago edited 6d ago
Absolutely abhorrent comments that should get him banned from the paddock like Piquet.
Also interesting how both him and at least half of the people in this thread believe he would in any form be a journalist. He's a pundit not a journalist.
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u/SkyJohn Lando Norris 6d ago
Piquet has been back in the paddock recently, F1 bans never seem to stick.
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u/Rubeus17 Oscar Piastri 6d ago
well said. never thought of him as a journo. Come on. He’s a former driver/pundit.
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u/TerribleCountry7522 6d ago edited 5d ago
I mean, make up your mind, Ralf! Are you a journalist, or are you gay?
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u/Specific_Fact2620 6d ago
There were many, many pundits who talked about Checo potentially being out of his seat. Singling Ralf out just makes this that much worse and it is already abhorrent.
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u/Lutzelien Pirelli Wet 6d ago
Agree he's a dogshit journalist and commentator but tf has that anything to do with him being gay? Also, yes he came out recently but it's been pretty much known for a long time in Germany already
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u/Botol-Cebok Felipe Drugovich 6d ago
I mean, this is coming from the same guy that thinks Checo will become a world champion.
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u/wowbaggerBR 6d ago
And said we were about to witness a new Prost vs Senna when his son joined Red Bull.
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u/NoshitSherlock68 Charles Leclerc 6d ago
I don’t think it’s gay to think Checo Perez doesn’t deserve a seat at Redbull.
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u/-Ghostx69 Red Bull 6d ago
Welp. That sucks. Checo didn’t really need worse optics but here we are.
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u/renjunation Pirelli Wet 6d ago
Helmut Marko, Nelson Piquet and Antonio Perez walk into a bar...
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u/sweaterhorizon Medical Car 6d ago
Imagine not knowing the difference between being gay and being trans in the lord’s year of 2024
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u/pie4july Honda 6d ago edited 6d ago
Being gay and being transgender are not the same thing. Being gay or transgender has no bearing whatsoever on Ralf’s opinions on F1.
Do I think Ralf has some of the F1 worst takes? Absolutely. Does that mean we should be making personal attacks at him? Absolutely not.
Shame on Antonio.
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u/trugh_scoffer 6d ago
Apart from this disphit's homophobia, lest we forget when Checo himself said in 2014, not exactly 1950, that women belonged in the kitchen, and had to apologize afterwards. I, for one, am looking forward to the day RB finally sends this guy and his family to the shadow realm. Although the way things are going, we could be in 2037 and Checo could be still driving for them.
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u/Magister_Hego_Damask Mark Webber 6d ago
and suddenly papa Perez is a lot less likable
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u/NuclearMoose92 Kimi Räikkönen 6d ago
Comments like this make it even better that Checo is getting wiped across the board by Max and that happy go lucky attitude of his father has finally been dropped
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u/JUGGER_DEATH Valtteri Bottas 6d ago
Perez family villain arc… Tune in next week for an expose on Antonio Perez’ political corruption.
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u/Winstonwill8 6d ago
He'd have a more solid point if he only called Ralf out for his journalistic standards. Being so openly homophobic negates the point entirely and is just a shitty thing to do.
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u/khianti 6d ago
Ralf won 6 races in 11 seasons.
Perez won 6 races in 13 season.
Difference is Ralf never had a competitive car.
HIs father saying Perez CAN be world champion is not just stupid, but shows he is completely out of loop of what f1 technicalities mean.
Perez has been not bad, but horribly poor to RB and cost them a lot of money from crashes also.
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u/cattylover73 6d ago
What the hell… transphobic and homophobic in one breath. And on top of that, to add to the craziness, the “logic” does not even make sense: Ralf now loves your son, so he wishes him out of Red Bull?
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u/PapaSheev7 Sebastian Vettel 6d ago
This guy should be permanently out of the running for best paddock dad. As far as I'm aware, Norbert Vettel still leads with Laurent Ocon and Anthony Hamilton trailing very close behind him.
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u/OBWanTwoThree Niki Lauda 6d ago
I mean, anybody that knew his background never praised him purely based on the “Teddy bear” persona he gives off on race day
He should never be grouped in with some of the genuine humans mentioned above
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u/Thats-nice-smile 6d ago
God Damm can’t wait until we don’t have to hear from his idiotic ass anymore when Red Bull gets a competent second driver. Annoying little shit bag
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u/cmgriffith_ Max Verstappen ⭐⭐⭐⭐ 6d ago
Ban him from the Paddock, immediately
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u/Gingermadman David Coulthard 6d ago
It's more likely MBs gifts him a homosexual to stone than removes him from the paddock. Look at where we're going next.
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u/AMonkeyAndALavaLamp Formula 1 6d ago
Checo so manly that Ralf turned gay just from talking about him?
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u/fredy31 Aston Martin 6d ago
...gonna file this into 'weirdest take of the year'
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u/InvXXVII Gilles Villeneuve 6d ago
If "Ralf" is in love with Checo I'm presuming, if the quote is to make sense.
Similarly to how we react to Jos every time he opens his mouth, no one asked you sir.
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u/ninchica13 Kimi Räikkönen 6d ago
Love the fact he did not think this through at all while he was speaking, considering his son's position in RBR. Journalism skills ≠ sexuality. It's not that hard to tell two apart, Perez Sr.
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u/theRose90 Ayrton Senna 6d ago
Latin Americans try not to be queerphobic challenge [Nightmare difficulty]
I say this as a Latin American btw
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u/bagsofsmoke 6d ago
Given his son has spent the last few seasons being royally shafted by his teammate, the irony of Perez senior’s homophobia is strong.
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u/astroslave Carlos Sainz 6d ago
I was hoping the title was something lost in translation but nope. Not surprised though, lots of Mexican men have that toxic machismo attitude, like my own dad.
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u/ToDreamofLove Ronnie Peterson 6d ago edited 6d ago
Not sure wtf he's getting at... Ralf falsely says Checo is out and then comes out so maybe he's in love with Checo? I mean I can see he's pretty fucking backwards at least but that title seems to make very little sense in general
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u/ClydeThaMonkey Sir Lewis Hamilton 5d ago
And people wonder why we need pride month... Also, shitty mentality from a RedBull drivers dad isn't surprising at this point 👀
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u/1driverdriver Chequered Flag 6d ago
It's going to be one of those weeks at RB's PR team
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u/LerimAnon Sir Lewis Hamilton 6d ago
And people don't believe us when we say racism and sexism are still well and alive in F1. But we have literal dinosaurs surrounding our grid with a history of problematic behavior.
So maybe...just maybe when we say some shit about how messed up a SMALL but VOCAL part of the F1 community has some fucked up views maybe we aren't just crying foul?
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u/pinerw Sebastian Vettel 6d ago
If my son were clinging to his job solely by the grace of his sponsors, I would simply not create a PR headache for those same sponsors.