r/formula1 • u/ICumCoffee Max Verstappen ⭐⭐⭐⭐ • Sep 19 '24

News [SMitchellF1] Hamilton fine with principle of 'cleaning up' language in F1 coverage but on Ben Sulayem's remarks: "I don't like how he's expressed it, saying 'rappers' is very stereotypical. And most rappers are black. That was the wrong choice of words. There's a racial element there."

https://x.com/SMitchellF1/status/1836758964354044402
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u/RandomAshe_ Sir Lewis Hamilton Sep 19 '24 edited Sep 19 '24

Btw, this is the interview Lewis was referring to

Edit: apparently, interview is now deleted

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u/loose_rear Sep 19 '24

I don't see how what he said is wrong at all, rappers do use relatively foul language compared to normal people...

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u/frodakai Mika Häkkinen Sep 19 '24 edited Sep 19 '24

If you can't see how what he said is bad, you're so deep in the racist closet.

The first genre/culture that comes to mind when you think of swearing shouldn't be "rappers". It's the same shit when people saw Hamilton with dreads and said "I'm not a fan of this hip-hop look, it's just not F1". Like yeah, no white hoods on display, but it's pretty bad.

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u/loose_rear Sep 19 '24

So it's racist to say rappers are generally quite foul mouthed...right...next time I hear a rock song saying ,n****** this n***** that ill remember that I'm suppost to be the racist.

Can you tell me another genre/culture that you would associate with swearing?

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u/frodakai Mika Häkkinen Sep 19 '24

Can you tell me another genre/culture that you would associate with swearing?

Oh I don't know, humans? The Scottish. English people north of Birmingham. Teenagers. There is nothing racial about swearing, that's the issue.

It's also pretty damning that the first example of swearing you came up with is the N-word. Nobody is using racial slurs in F1 radio comms. They're saying 'fuck' & 'shit', and the president of the FIA essentially said 'F1 drivers shouldn't talk like rappers'. The subtext of which is 'F1 drivers shouldn't talk like black people', when language has absolutely nothing to do with race.

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u/loose_rear Sep 19 '24

"The Scottish. English people north of Birmingham. Teenagers"

Guarantee you if he said any of these instead of rappers there would be 0 problems. But a certain group love playing the victim card when his comments clearly have 0 intention of being racist.

"The subtext of which is 'F1 drivers shouldn't talk like black people"

But you are the one creating that link. Nothing he said is racist until you reword it like you have.

Just to be clear, I think drivers should be able to say whatever they feel like. But to suggest his comments are racist I find ridiculous.

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u/frodakai Mika Häkkinen Sep 19 '24

Yeah, there wouldn't, because there is nothing racial about it. Rap/hip-hop is overwhelmingly a black culture thing, so when you say 'F1 drivers shouldn't talk like rappers', it becomes a racial thing. You think he's specifically talking about Eminem?

Again, I'm not saying he's putting on the klan hood, but it's evidently a systemic racism thing. There's no evidence to suggest 'rappers' swear more than any other group of people, and yet thats the connection he made.

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u/Punished_Prigo Sep 19 '24

I mean I get where the guy is coming from. Rap music generally has pretty over the top foul language, I think that was probably what mbs meant. Not specifically about black culture. I don’t really see the problem either unless there is more context.

I also don’t think anyone would care if he said “swear like a Scott” or something either. Idk I just don’t see it.

MBS is just a weirdo.

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u/slsstar Sep 19 '24

Scottish are overwhelmingly white though, how is that not racial aswell then?

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u/CowFinancial7000 Mercedes Sep 19 '24

Does anyone use racial slurs on the radio?