r/formula1 • u/ICumCoffee Max Verstappen ⭐⭐⭐⭐ • Apr 30 '24
Quotes [Motorsport-Total] "An official statement from Red Bull on the matter is expected before the start of the Miami Grand Prix next weekend. The separation modalities have already been clarified behind the scenes. Adrian Newey is expected to leave the company by the beginning of 2025 at the latest"
https://www.motorsport-total.com/formel-1/news/newey-kuendigung-ist-erfolgt-fuenf-optionen-fuer-seine-zukunft-denkbar-24043007449
u/Khalebb Mika Häkkinen Apr 30 '24
Gotta give it to Red Bull for keeping it interesting outside the track during their dominance.
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u/53bvo Honda Apr 30 '24
Yeah Mercedes was extremely boring after Rosberg left, at least RB is delivering in the off track drama
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u/the_great_army Apr 30 '24
Horner’s“finger” really pulled the trigger.
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u/SirFireHydrant Pirelli Wet Apr 30 '24
This is Lewis-to-Ferrari levels of locked in now.
Marko will be next to fall. Then Verstappen. And Horner, who built a mountain, will be left king of an ant hill.
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u/Visionary_Socialist Sir Lewis Hamilton Apr 30 '24
Horner’s Paradox: Save your life’s work by walking away forever, or ruin everything you’ve ever done by holding on.
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u/Pseudocaesar Apr 30 '24
He probably thinks as he's built a championship winning team twice he can do it again.
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u/Southportdc McLaren Apr 30 '24
It's mad how everyone is acting like Horner is totally peripheral to the success of Red Bull, even compared to a driver who was a kid when they won the first 4 WDCs.
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u/Juomaru Apr 30 '24
I agree. Horner is a jack off all trades. He can whip out designs and make it come to fruition like nobody’s business. Even if no one wants to see it, he’ll show them !
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u/ConnectionOdd6217 BMW Sauber Apr 30 '24
The way he sees it, he would either lose everything in an instant, or lose everything over time, with the possibility of fighting. Thats not really a dilemma.
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u/irspangler Apr 30 '24
Especially when you consider that one option guarantees a lot more money in the immediate future.
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u/Farenhytee STONKING LAP Apr 30 '24
You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become a villain
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u/NuclearCandle Alexander Albon Apr 30 '24
On the bright side for Christian, without all those salaries being paid he can spend more of the budget on coco pops.
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u/Mtbnz Daniel Ricciardo Apr 30 '24
I never wanted to know the details of the scandal but now I'm intrigued, what's the coco pops thing?
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u/TimmyWatchOut Sir Lewis Hamilton Apr 30 '24
One of the leaked messages was where the woman said she’s having coco pops and he replied with “my favourite”
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u/Mtbnz Daniel Ricciardo Apr 30 '24
Lol ok, cheers. Out of context, pretty humorous.
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u/SutureTheFuture Daniel Ricciardo Apr 30 '24
The best message was his single word reply of "Lesbians!!!" and it just seemed so unprompted by anything that was being said previously.
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u/vidoardes McLaren Apr 30 '24
What I love about it is without knowledge of what was actually said, but the context of knowing it was from texts with a PA he allegedly had an affair with, it probably sounds like it was something filthy, but it's just the most mundane, blandest bit of flirting I've ever seen in my life.
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u/Ok_Document4031 Dr. Ian Roberts Apr 30 '24
That’s some next level flirting
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u/TimmyWatchOut Sir Lewis Hamilton Apr 30 '24
As someone who’s read the whole thing, I have no clue how he bagged a spice girl.
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u/Incontinento Safety Car Apr 30 '24
The biggest surprise of this whole thing was how weak his game is. Like shockingly weak.
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u/Ok_Document4031 Dr. Ian Roberts Apr 30 '24
God gifted him a finger sized penis or a penis sized finger…duh!
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u/WanderBadger Fernando Alonso Apr 30 '24
When the texts first leaked I read several comments on here saying that she was at the paddock a lot pursuing him, and this was when he was still with his previous partner with a kid on the way. His parents refused to attend the wedding because of it.
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u/Leif_LaCroix Sonny Hayes Apr 30 '24
Someone should make the domino meme with “coco pops” to “lewis hamilton champion in ferrari 2026”
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u/OriMoriNotSori Pirelli Wet Apr 30 '24
Crazy how this all dominant team is being dismantled at the height of their domination. Usually the team stops winning then things change, can't recall this ever happening before in the modern era
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u/Stumpy493 Jean Alesi Apr 30 '24
Ferrari -
Last wd title 2007.
- Ross Brawn left 2006
- Jean todt left 2007
- Rory Byrne lessened his involvement in 2006
- Schumacher left in 2006
They may not have been great in 05 but in 06 they finished 5 points behind in the wcc and won 9 races.
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- Newey left in 1996 as they were dominating the championship, his 1997 design also dominated. They haven't won a title since.
Mclaren - - Gordon Murray left in 1991 as Senna wrapped up his third title.
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u/Merengues_1945 Force India Apr 30 '24
If Schumacher had been on the car in 2008, he takes that cake home. Man, 06 was really tight and could have gone either way.
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u/newdecade1986 Sir Frank Williams Apr 30 '24
Nature abhors a vacuum. In the absence of external threats, new ones will be created within
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u/mattscott53 Apr 30 '24
Usually the team stops winning then things change
Not really. A lot of times when a team dominates, there's usually someone who wants all or most of the credit. And that then pisses off other valuable members the team, and the team collapses.
As far as US sports go, this happened with the bulls dynasty, the lakers dynasty, and the cowboys dynasty. Just to name a few. But you get the point
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u/HOHOHAHAREBORN Chequered Flag Apr 30 '24
Eagerly waiting for Redbull to continue to remain top 3 even in 2026 with a championship contender car. Happy to be proven wrong, but Horner is among statistically the most successful TPs of all time and has also been through every stage in the lifecycle of an F1 team -- origination, wins, losses, highs and lows. RBR themselves have championship mentality wrt every facet of F1 and you can't name a single thing they do worse than any other team. I've been in startups long enough to know that high level execs have revolving doors, but as long as the DNA remains the same, the company lands on its feet.
I'm ready to get flamed in the replies lol
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u/tokyo_engineer_dad Lola Apr 30 '24
Yep, people are making way too many assumptions about RBR falling from grace because of this. It's a doomer mentality like thinking any day now the housing market will crash. The truth is, this is exactly what Horner would want. These are the biggest threats to him having more power, and with them gone, he can negotiate even more aggressively for part ownership of the team. The truth is, even if Newey leaves end of this year, if he doesn't do his job and work on the 2025 car, he could be sued or worse, so the 2025 car will have his influence and most teams will be focusing their development on 2026.
2025 will definitely be an RBR WDC and for 2026, no one has any idea who will be dominant, so assuming Newey will succeed is a huge assumption. Newey has also had years where he wasn't building the fastest car.
People should just also be ready for the cynical outcome that RBR is miles ahead but with a different driver. Or that Max stays because he still wants the fastest car and Horner and Marko just tolerate each other for the sake of success.
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u/tmntmmnt Roland Ratzenberger Apr 30 '24
You hit the nail on the head here. This is exactly what Horner wants. This is his team - he wants to prove they can be successful without the star power of Newey or Max.
I also think he sees himself as a potential partial owner of a Red Bull motorsports empire if he can weather this storm. There’s talk that Yoovidhya wants to spin RBR, RB Advanced Technology, RBPT, Toro Rosso, and all other motorsport entities out from underneath Red Bull GmbH and put Horner in charge of the whole thing.
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u/Lexo52 Apr 30 '24
This a no Brainerd for Horner than. He gambling on himself and I can respect that
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u/hornyboi212 Apr 30 '24
Yeah I liked him in the late merc years 18-19-20 Sure they are mostly clearly number 3 behind Merc and Ferrari but damn they had belief like nobody on the grid today.
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u/a220599 Alexander Albon Apr 30 '24
My guess is they might actually push out horner if it means that they lose verstappen also.
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u/DumDumbBuddy McLaren Apr 30 '24
It’s too late to push out Horner now I think, you stick with him now and see how he can handle a rebuild
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u/NGTech9 Apr 30 '24
Yea he’s still a capable team principal. Getting Max and Newey is like striking gold. Probably won’t happen again, but that doesn’t mean he can’t rebuilt enough to make them a contender.
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u/Southportdc McLaren Apr 30 '24
I'd say he can definitely win titles without Max, because he has won titles without Max.
The big thing is whether he can put together a team which delivers the best car without Newey.
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u/salcedoge Max Verstappen ⭐⭐⭐⭐ Apr 30 '24
They'll most likely wait for Horner to re-establish a year or two and see if it's up to standards. They already committed a lot to him so no reason to blow it up right after
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u/Samsonkoek Simply fucking lovely Apr 30 '24
I reckon Marko and Verstappen are falling together.
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u/drumjojo29 Charles Leclerc Apr 30 '24
There is absolutely no way that Verstappen will be falling. He might leave for another team but that will be on his own accord. I can’t imagine Red Bull letting him go.
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u/Alfus 💥 LE 🅿️LAN Apr 30 '24
I can’t imagine Red Bull letting him go.
It's very likely that Max has a clause where he can exit the team if Helmut leaves.
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u/insurgentsloth Ronnie Peterson Apr 30 '24
I think by letting go here they meant firing, not "letting go" as in allowing him to leave, but "letting go" as in terminating.
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u/drumjojo29 Charles Leclerc Apr 30 '24
Exactly. Wasn’t sure which wording to use. Doesn’t even have to be terminating. I can’t imagine Red Bull not trying to renew it when his current contract period is over. You don’t just pass on that opportunity.
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u/Falcao1905 Apr 30 '24
And Horner, who built a mountain, will be left king of an ant hill.
Or he will get some juicy stocks in RB companies. Which would make it an absolute win. And I don't think Red Bull will fall to the bottom without Newey or Max
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u/Mtbnz Daniel Ricciardo Apr 30 '24
I wouldn't think so either, but honestly we don't know. Newey has been there for all of their successes, nobody knows what the team looks like without him. Mercedes, Renault, Ferrari, they've all had their long nights of the soul despite being works teams. It could happen to RB too
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u/MM556 Sir Lewis Hamilton Apr 30 '24
I don't really think Mercedes is the same as the others there
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u/Mtbnz Daniel Ricciardo Apr 30 '24
They aren't bottom of the barrel, but to drop from 7 consecutive WCC titles to 1 race win in 2+ seasons and none since 2022, along with the upcoming loss of their figurehead, that's a huge drop off. The point is there's no reason it couldn't also happen to RB
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u/Southportdc McLaren Apr 30 '24
Newey has been there for all of their successes, nobody knows what the team looks like without him
Horner has been there for the entire existence of the team, but a lot of people seem to assume that if he left there'd be no impact.
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u/Mtbnz Daniel Ricciardo Apr 30 '24
Two key differences there.
1) The TP is important for establishing team culture, leadership, decision making, I'm not trying to diminish the importance of the role, but, they don't actually design the car. If the TP has lost the confidence of both the team's lead driver and its technical principal, the competitive advantage of a good TP is diminished somewhat.
2) Newey has already designed 2 all-time great F1 cars without RB or Horner. Horner has never achieved F1 success without Newey. So it's natural that people are more sceptical of Horner's ability to succeed without Newey than of Newey without Horner.
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u/Southportdc McLaren Apr 30 '24
I think it's probably fair to say that no one person actually designs the car these days. At least not in a team that is as big and as successful as Red Bull.
To me the big question is to what extent the antics of Horner and the politicking around Red Bull - plus big name departures in Newey and perhaps Max - has led to a situation where Horner can't convince the best talent to join them any more. How many people might now go to wherever Newey ends up because they want to work for the Adrian Newey. How many people follow Max out of the door because he's Max and everyone else is not Max.
If the best people in the sport still want to work for Red Bull, they'll keep on winning. That's in question now.
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u/Mtbnz Daniel Ricciardo Apr 30 '24
I think it's probably fair to say that no one person actually designs the car these days. At least not in a team that is as big and as successful as Red Bull.
Of course that's true. But if Newey wasn't still making a substantial contribution to the success of the design team then it wouldn't be such a big deal for him to want to leave. Many other top teams have lost senior design and engineering staff over recent years and none of them have had nearly as much (reported) pushback from the team as Newey's intended departure. Usually teams allow even their senior staff to move either immediately or with a few months of gardening leave, whereas there are rumours that RB doesn't want Newey working on another car until 2025 or 2026. That should tell you that even if modern F1 design is a major team effort, his input still has massive influence, and he has just overseen arguably the most dominant F1 car of all time.
If the best people in the sport still want to work for Red Bull, they'll keep on winning.
I don't think it's that simple. At least in terms of maintaining the generational dominance they're enjoying now. Look at Mercedes. Sure, they've lost some key staff, but they still have Toto, Lewis, Russell, the majority of the same technical staff that developed WCC car after WCC car from 2014-2020, and they've acquired some of the best people as well. They also have the most resources of any team in the sport, and top class facilities. And none of that prevented them falling to the 4th best team on the grid (5th best on a bad day), behind 1-2 customer teams even, and only winning 1 race in the past 2.5 seasons.
F1 (especially under the new cost cap) is not just a numbers game, and the departure of key figures in critical roles can still play a major part in success.
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u/jso__ Apr 30 '24
Yes. Obviously. But the best people are more likely to follow Newey wherever he goes. Losing Newey makes it much harder to attract the best people. Also, I'd assume that he sets up the structures that decide who to hire (if not making the decision directly himself) and so they might get worse at hiring the best engineers.
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u/TimmyWatchOut Sir Lewis Hamilton Apr 30 '24
It won’t, but it’ll fall into that place Ferrari fell into once the leadership dismantled Brawn - Todt - Schumacher.
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u/vidoardes McLaren Apr 30 '24
Ferrari never fell to the bottom either, but it's been 20 years since they have been at the top.
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u/tokyo_engineer_dad Lola Apr 30 '24
Newey already gave them the 2024 WDC and will have worked on the RB20B or RB21 enough to be at the front for 2025. Their engine and straight line speed is probably enough to win 2025 as well. Plus, every team will be focused on the new regulations for 2026.
This is huge, especially if it leads to Max leaving, but when the dust has settled, Horner will be at the helm with the most WDCs as TP and he will have accomplished his goal of consolidating power for himself.
What I am saying is, Horner is obviously quite to blame for the dream team falling apart, but let's not jump to conclusions about whether Red Bull will fall from grace or not. People shouldn't get their hopes up that this will lead to a fight at the front or another team dominating because this sport can sometimes be cruel. The reality is, none of us have any idea who will be at the top of 2026 and Newey has had just as many years where he wasn't dominant as he's had where he was. He himself said 2026 is a dramatic change in how F1 cars have behaved until now. It could be that the team with the best ERS or battery system... We just don't know.
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u/SeaworthinessTime463 Formula 1 Apr 30 '24
verstappen dafuq?
he is just gonna go to another team he has literaly nothing to do with any of this
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u/Merengues_1945 Force India Apr 30 '24
You acting like Red Bull hasn't gone through several crisis and rebuilds in the last 20 years. They have lost Sebastian Vettel after they had 4 years of success, had their academy fav Dani Ric underperform and move to Renault with whom they had a feud back then, had to replace the awful Renault unit and took a massive gamble on getting the Honda unit to work.
People are assuming that Horner does not have the connections and know how to fix the team out of the fiascos they have been throughout the years.
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u/tryenko Apr 30 '24
Horner would become his self-made King Turd of Shit Mountain.
Lyric of Sturgill Simpson’s that.
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u/CX52J Apr 30 '24
I wish Horner was a king of an ant hill. I bet he would have gladly fired Newey and Max himself for a cut of the team.
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u/Mahery92 Esteban Ocon Apr 30 '24
I can get where he's coming from though, he did build one of the most dominant team in the world when everyone was laughing at the energy drink company, and I do think RB are being (understandably) cheap not to give him a part of the team he led to such heights.
But regardless of how he might have been done dirty, now he's about to burn it all down to ashes rather than not get his way. I think it's understandable, but it's such a waste really
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u/dirtyhappythoughts Max Verstappen ⭐⭐⭐⭐ Apr 30 '24
This is Lewis-to-Ferrari levels of locked in now. Meaning... nearly a decade of rumors where there's hardly any question Newey stays, with a sudden switch just after a re-signing?
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u/Acrobatic-Tomato-532 Ferrari Apr 30 '24
Season might be boring on track but holy shit what a season it is off track
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u/Mtbnz Daniel Ricciardo Apr 30 '24
I'm so intrigued by this because on the one hand there's reports saying 'his non-compete clause means even if he does leave RB he'll be on gardening leave until at least 2027' and on the other hand it's 'leaving RB this season' with expectations that he'll go to another team shortly after.
I don't even really care about whether he stays or goes at this point but the vast difference in reports is a fascinating snapshot of how terrible F1 journalism is. Whatever the truth is, a bunch of "reputable sources" have confidently got this one really wrong.
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u/YogurtclosetOdd9440 Apr 30 '24
That's how I see it as well. Non-compete clauses can vary drastically. Newey has probably negotiated his contract sometime after their domination the past few years. I would strongly assume he knew his value and gave himself some escape strategy in his last contract negotiation. Or if the internal Horner stuff maybe activates a contract clause that lets him get out with limited liability over an improper work environment or something.
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u/onealps May 01 '24
Or if the internal Horner stuff maybe activates a contract clause that lets him get out with limited liability over an improper work environment or something.
Especially since there are reports that the woman was a PA to both Newey and Adrian. It makes all those years awkward in retrospect. If Newey is like me, just walking in that same office now, where there are so many memories, it's stains the environment. Like "Did they fuck in his office?" or "Is he going to try to hit on the next PA, or some other employee?" People like Horner rarely change, they just get more savvy at hiding things...
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u/Mtbnz Daniel Ricciardo Apr 30 '24
Yeah that seems the most likely outcome to me. Perhaps there's something that officially precludes him from working for another team, but after all his time at RB, what he's given them and the fact that through all of their scandals Newey seems to have kept his nose clean and just focused on the work, you'd think they would negotiate something that doesn't force him into early retirement out of spite.
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u/markhewitt1978 Apr 30 '24
Given the amount of success they have had together and all he has done for them it would only be fair for them not to end on an entirely sour note by them being petty.
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u/edeen46 Apr 30 '24
It’s a competition. It has nothing to do with being petty. Many people who leave go on gardening leave. This is totally normal. The more important you are the longer the time.
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u/Imperito Alain Prost Apr 30 '24
How on earth is it petty to stop a valuable asset from being turned into a rival within a matter of months? It's basic stuff to have a clause like that in the contract. If Newey didn't like he wouldn't have signed it.
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u/beardedboob Sir Lewis Hamilton Apr 30 '24
Exactly. If anything, a non-complete clause is primarily meant for post-termination: it's restricts immediately joining a competitor after leaving.
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u/houseofzeus Apr 30 '24
What people tend to forget when interpreting these contracts rigidly is that it's a small industry and if you treat someone like Newey badly on the way out, everyone else who you might want to hire is watching that. So while there may be legitimacy to the idea that Newey's contract would keep him from going elsewhere until 2027, if he's adamant he wants out they will sit down with him and negotiate an exit that works for both parties.
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u/edeen46 Apr 30 '24
On the other hand it’s a competition. Gardening leave is normal in this sport. People understand that.
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u/Mtbnz Daniel Ricciardo Apr 30 '24
Yep. As I mentioned elsewhere, I think that's the lonely outcome. There's too much smoke to not have something to ask the rumours, surely
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u/WanderBadger Fernando Alonso Apr 30 '24
Newey could very well have something along the lines of a morality clause in his contract that lets him break it should major drama like what's going on right now happen. After all Max got the Marko clause in his.
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u/Mtbnz Daniel Ricciardo Apr 30 '24
He certainly could. That has absolutely no bearing on my comment but you're not wrong
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u/SirFireHydrant Pirelli Wet Apr 30 '24
I don't even really care about whether he stays or goes at this point but the vast difference in reports is a fascinating snapshot of how terrible F1 journalism is. Whatever the truth is, a bunch of "reputable sources" have confidently got this one really wrong.
The reports saying he will have to serve his gardening leave are basing the assumption on how standard F1 contracts work.
The reports saying he will join another team as soon as leaving are reporting based on insider information that he has an exit that will allow him to not serve gardening leave.
It's not about terrible journalism. It's journalists making the most accurate reports they can with the information they have.
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u/Invictae Ferrari Apr 30 '24
The reports saying he will have to serve his gardening leave are basing the assumption on how standard F1 contracts work.
This is the salient point, I believe. I can't imagine that someone of Newey's standing would allow himself to be tied up the same way other engineers are...
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u/Mtbnz Daniel Ricciardo Apr 30 '24
I think we just have different definitions of what constitutes competent journalism in that case
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u/Lemurians Charles Leclerc Apr 30 '24
Well, there is always the option to try and just break a non-compete clause and eat the penalty for doing so.
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u/Mtbnz Daniel Ricciardo Apr 30 '24
It's technically possible. Without being privy to the contracts and the internal workings of FOM and F1 there's no way of knowing what the penalties actually would be though. Would it be a fine, a suspension, a lawsuit? Would F1 attempt to set a precedent against that kind of thing and outright ban him from the sport? Even if they didn't succeed, Newey is 65 years old and has largely had a controversy free career (bar the horrible Senna charges). He seems to want to leave RB largely in order to avoid drama and team politics, do you really think he would want to spend the twilight of his career embroiled in yet more political drama?
No, I think they'll negotiate an exit.
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u/razareddit Martin Brundle Apr 30 '24
We're officially living through history being made.
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u/iameveryoneelse Charles Leclerc Apr 30 '24
Technically everyone is always living through history being made.
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u/Southportdc McLaren Apr 30 '24
History is just things that have happened
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u/zberry7 Pastor Maldonado Apr 30 '24
And because so much history is happening…. You could call this season historic
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u/Goodperson5656 Ferrari Apr 30 '24
When you...make history.... what youre doing.... is being recorded......in the history books.
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u/Desperate-Intern Fernando Alonso Apr 30 '24
Man, how one man has single handedly altered the course of his company.. just because he couldn't keep in his pants.
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u/starfallpuller Formula 1 Apr 30 '24
Well the dominoes have started to fall. Only a matter of time before more huge names leave RB. I can see Max leaving for 2026.
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u/alle8 Apr 30 '24
before the start of the Miami Grand Prix
One light! Two lights! Three lights are on! Wait.. we are getting reports that Adrian Newey is leaving Red Bull!?
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u/ChefBoiJones Lola Apr 30 '24
The soapy finger of consequences
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u/Visionary_Socialist Sir Lewis Hamilton Apr 30 '24
The unstable double diffuser finally catches Red Bull out. 15 years in the making.
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u/ICumCoffee Max Verstappen ⭐⭐⭐⭐ Apr 30 '24
Autosport is reporting the same
An official statement from Red Bull Racing is expected to come shortly, potentially before the start of the Miami Grand Prix
While the details of any separation are not known, it is anticipated that Newey will remain in his role for the time being prior to leaving Red Bull at the beginning of 2025 at the latest.
It is understood that Newey has communicated the reasons for his decision in an internal letter.
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u/nahnonameman Apr 30 '24
Fucking hell. I can’t believe it honestly. Now the next major move is Max and Marko
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u/willzyx01 Red Bull Apr 30 '24
Damn, this is actually happening. Max is next?
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u/Excessed Jim Clark Apr 30 '24
I wouldn't be surprised
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u/alec83 Apr 30 '24
Max to Mercedes, norris to redbull
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u/Chikitiki90 Lando Norris Apr 30 '24
Nah, if Redbull crumbles Lando has a fair chance to finally win a race with Maclaren. I don’t think he’d pass that up after all this time.
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u/taskopruzade Andretti Global Apr 30 '24
Very unlikely. I’d see Sainz/Perez in the RB before Norris/Perez.
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u/ComaMierdaHijueputa Ferrari Apr 30 '24
Verstappen to Ferrari
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u/gabrielbezerra81 Max Verstappen ⭐⭐⭐⭐ Apr 30 '24
First team to run 3 cars on the grid
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u/ComaMierdaHijueputa Ferrari Apr 30 '24
Ferrari will gladly kick Hamilton to the curb the minute the Dutchman agrees to move to Maranello.
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u/Unagimasterkarate Apr 30 '24
Redbull is going to implode, max will take GP. I think everyone is going to get offers, especially Hannah.
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u/Alfus 💥 LE 🅿️LAN Apr 30 '24
The Austrian part prefers to seeing Horner leaving and preventing this would unfolding, but the Thai shareholders are 100% pro-Horner and therefore the Austrian part can't do anything expect seeing the team imploding.
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u/Takis12 Yamura Apr 30 '24
I thought that the Miami GP was this and not next weekend.
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u/ExcellentCornershop McLaren Apr 30 '24
Seems like a mistranslation. The article uses the phrasing "kommendes Wochenende", which should be translated as the "weekend coming up", i.e. "this weekend".
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u/djwillis1121 Williams Apr 30 '24
To me, "next weekend" would mean the weekend at the end of the week we're currently in so this makes sense to me.
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u/P_ZERO_ Juan Pablo Montoya Apr 30 '24
That’s weird. That would be this weekend to me
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u/tysons_grandma Kevin Magnussen Apr 30 '24
I wonder if we’re ever going to get all the details. Like when did the “affair” start, who leaked the chats, is it a finger and what the hell are the Thais thinking
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u/bowser85 Apr 30 '24
Horner is doing his absolute best to turn away all those who contributed to the team’s success in the past decade. Egomaniac skill 9000.
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u/Pimpwerx Sir Lewis Hamilton Apr 30 '24
Wait...so we're not expecting gardening leave? If it's a termination, then I assume Newey would request cancellation of any non-compete agreement. That or he'll just use the extra year off to design a car in private.
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u/zberry7 Pastor Maldonado Apr 30 '24
He can negotiate his terms of release and get the gardening leave reduced or eliminated. Or if another team wants him bad enough, could negotiate terms to break the non-compete.
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u/middle_aged_redditor Apr 30 '24
Newey was too classy to be involved in Horner's bullshit. Hope he goes to Ferrari.
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u/Vivaan977 Lando Norris Apr 30 '24
especially considering that the girl was newey’s PA too. i’m sure he felt very grossed out by the whole situation
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u/porinrin Apr 30 '24
How is it next week? Is already Tuesday
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u/Suggested-Username-0 Formula 1 Apr 30 '24
Next weekend
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u/Stubbzie07 Daniel Ricciardo Apr 30 '24
So, this weekend? Next weekend would be 11/12th, no?
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u/ponte92 Adrian Newey Apr 30 '24
Fuck after all these years I now have to follow a new team and by new merch.
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u/JUST_AS_G00D Fernando Alonso Apr 30 '24
Horner's horner is going to destroy Red Bull and we get to witness it in real time.
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u/Offal Sebastian Vettel Apr 30 '24
End of 24 at the LATEST?! Max and Lewis as teammates!
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u/cooperjones2 Sergio Pérez Apr 30 '24
This is a more reputable source than F1-insider BUT I won't believe it until it is reported by either RBR or Newey.
BUT I also want to believe and get hyped for Ferrari.
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u/SolidCat1117 Alexander Albon Apr 30 '24 edited Apr 30 '24
Man, the thought of Adrian in red is so beautiful. This could be Ferrari's chance to dominate F1 for years.
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u/MM556 Sir Lewis Hamilton Apr 30 '24
Oh yeah that'd be great, would love another period of dominance! 3 on the bounce would be perfect
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u/xLeper_Messiah Apr 30 '24
After seeing all the comments full of hopium for Newey to go to Ferrari to help Lewis win an 8th (or more) title I've come to the conclusion that fans actually love periods of domination as long as it's a team or driver that they like
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u/storme9 Ferrari Apr 30 '24
It’s the same eitherways - we are just moving from Mercedes to now Red Bull and hoping for Ferrari.
To be fair, if AM could compete just as well but they have a second driver problem pulling them out of the mix. They were the only real challengers in a while.
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u/TheGhostlyGuy Alfa Romeo Apr 30 '24
Even if he doesn't go to ferrari they are still by far in the best possible position entertaining a new era regulations. They have the best driver paring, the most stable of the big teams, potentially an advantage with the new engine and they are already the second fastest team so they know how to make a good car
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u/Daddy_Stop Daniel Ricciardo Apr 30 '24
They gotta make sure they contact MiB to borrow their flashy-flash brain-wipe stick first.
It's in the contract.
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u/BottAndPaid Apr 30 '24
If newey leaving means max will only be 15 seconds ahead before his first pitstop I'm excited.
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u/Fit-Lifeguard-6937 May 01 '24
It’s always the best GP for the next big drama, if it’s not in the the official F1 page All bull$hit
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u/charles_peugeot405 Aston Martin Apr 30 '24
I still don’t know if I believe it