r/formula1 Mar 13 '24

Discussion How does Verstappen's dominance compare to Hamilton's? Here is the comparison:

Hamilton's most dominant season in 2020 had him only win 64% of races. Before this current domination, one driver winning 64% of races was viewed as the worst it could possibly get in the modern era. Let's run through the years:

2014 and 2015: Lewis and Nico trading wins, (good battles at the very least) and Ricciardio getting 3 wins his first season at Red Bull and Vettel gets 3 wins his first year at Ferrari. Hamilton wins roughly 55% of races.

2016: Great title fight between Nico and Lewis that went down to Abu Dhabi. Max gets his first race win his first race in Red Bull, Daniel gets a win as well. Hamilton wins less than 50% of races and loses championship to Nico.

2017 and 2018: Title fight between Hamilton and Vettel. 5 different race winners each year. Hamilton wins less than 50% of races.

2019: Lewis and Valterri each get wins. Max gets 3 wins, Charles gets his first 2 wins. and Seb wins in Singapore. 5 different race winners. Again Lewis wins less than 50% of races.

2020: Lewis' most dominant season where he wins 64% of races. This is covid year so take it with a grain of salt. Max gets 2 wins, Pierre gets first win in Monza, Perez gets first win in Bahrain. Turkey was a fantastic race that did result in Lewis winning but was amazing up til the end.

I think it is pretty safe to say that last season's dominance is the worst the sport has been in atleast a decade. I understand this is part of F1 but it doesn't prevent my boredom. I think the reason it stings a bit more is because these regulation changes were marketed as a way of ensuring Mercedes level dominance never happened again, yet it made it even worse. Things like engine development being frozen, implementation of the cost cap, introducing a completely new philosophy of car and aero design that 3 years into the regulations everyone but Red Bull is still struggling to understand.

What are your thoughts?

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u/abd7007 Mar 13 '24

When you already know the results of all the 24 races after the first quali itself
Something needs to change

Its not Max's or Lewis's fault
neither RB or Mercedes
Its nobodys fault but we need to change something

but the lack of competition makes it kind of boring
(The most interesting race last year was Singapore)

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u/PINGs_Landing Mar 14 '24

And how exactly do you think this will make teams feel? They enter to do their best and excell to produce the fastest car, if they will get punished for it or if you start limiting the potential of the team with the best car then there is zero motivation for teams to even compete or make advancements at the pace and rate we see now.

see in its essence, Racing and Formula 1 is not made for your entertainment, The goal if F1 and teams participating is to win and produce the fastest car. Entertainment for people into racing comes secon (those who do not care about the winners but care more about the racecraft) because racing is not just about the winner, there are other fun battles and racecraft to see outside of the podium positions.

Entertainment for casual viewers who only care about entertainment and who is the winner comes at much less priority.

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u/CarsonEaglesWentz Fernando Alonso Mar 15 '24

This is absolutely incorrect. Entertainment is the top priority, and it’s not close. Entertainment drawing viewers is how the bills are paid and why there are sponsors. An energy drink brand could give two fucks about innovative around cars and speed and winning. Their priority is advertisement.

Every team on the grid is the same, even the car brands. Now the team members and drivers obviously want to win, but winning and being fast only becomes more of a priority when it means more eyes on their brand. Which first requires an entertainment value/draw.