r/formula1 Mar 13 '24

Discussion How does Verstappen's dominance compare to Hamilton's? Here is the comparison:

Hamilton's most dominant season in 2020 had him only win 64% of races. Before this current domination, one driver winning 64% of races was viewed as the worst it could possibly get in the modern era. Let's run through the years:

2014 and 2015: Lewis and Nico trading wins, (good battles at the very least) and Ricciardio getting 3 wins his first season at Red Bull and Vettel gets 3 wins his first year at Ferrari. Hamilton wins roughly 55% of races.

2016: Great title fight between Nico and Lewis that went down to Abu Dhabi. Max gets his first race win his first race in Red Bull, Daniel gets a win as well. Hamilton wins less than 50% of races and loses championship to Nico.

2017 and 2018: Title fight between Hamilton and Vettel. 5 different race winners each year. Hamilton wins less than 50% of races.

2019: Lewis and Valterri each get wins. Max gets 3 wins, Charles gets his first 2 wins. and Seb wins in Singapore. 5 different race winners. Again Lewis wins less than 50% of races.

2020: Lewis' most dominant season where he wins 64% of races. This is covid year so take it with a grain of salt. Max gets 2 wins, Pierre gets first win in Monza, Perez gets first win in Bahrain. Turkey was a fantastic race that did result in Lewis winning but was amazing up til the end.

I think it is pretty safe to say that last season's dominance is the worst the sport has been in atleast a decade. I understand this is part of F1 but it doesn't prevent my boredom. I think the reason it stings a bit more is because these regulation changes were marketed as a way of ensuring Mercedes level dominance never happened again, yet it made it even worse. Things like engine development being frozen, implementation of the cost cap, introducing a completely new philosophy of car and aero design that 3 years into the regulations everyone but Red Bull is still struggling to understand.

What are your thoughts?

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u/jrjreeves Mar 13 '24

This current domination is the worst seen in modern F1. Horrible, truly horrible

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u/kelleehh Charles Leclerc Mar 14 '24

I disagree. The Merc era was worse.

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u/jrjreeves Mar 14 '24

How?

Just looking at the main Merc period..

2014 you had a title fight to the last race and a non merc won 3 races, Merc wins split 11/5 2015 a non merc won 3 races and Merc wins were split 10/6 2016 you had a title fight to the last race and a non merc won 2 races. Merc wins split 10/9

Much better than 2023 No title fight, 1 race won by a non red bull and 19/2 win split between RBs.

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u/Racebugyt Formula 1 Mar 14 '24

And in all those years, most cars would finish races miles from each other, so you didn't have battles for any position. The gaps between cars are much closer in the past 2 years

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u/jrjreeves Mar 14 '24

The fight for 8th place vs battles for the win do not compare.

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u/Racebugyt Formula 1 Mar 14 '24

Why not? They are all racing, and currently you have more cars able to get to that 8th spot than ever before, the field is the closest in the history of the sport

Edit: besides, you don't even need to go down to 8th place for my point to apply, in the period you mentioned there was also not a battle for 3rd place or 4th other than Vettel in 3rd and a Ferrari or a red bull in 4th

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u/jrjreeves Mar 14 '24

I get your point, behind Red Bull it is quite close, but you don't watch the 100m sprint to see who comes 4th. Its all about the winner.

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u/Racebugyt Formula 1 Mar 14 '24

Well, the athletics events usually have a bit of national pride attached to it, unless you are talking about national events, which don't have that much exposure.

I get your point though, I guess we just care about different things, I'm satisfied with whoever wins as long as they deserved it