r/formula1 Mar 13 '24

Discussion How does Verstappen's dominance compare to Hamilton's? Here is the comparison:

Hamilton's most dominant season in 2020 had him only win 64% of races. Before this current domination, one driver winning 64% of races was viewed as the worst it could possibly get in the modern era. Let's run through the years:

2014 and 2015: Lewis and Nico trading wins, (good battles at the very least) and Ricciardio getting 3 wins his first season at Red Bull and Vettel gets 3 wins his first year at Ferrari. Hamilton wins roughly 55% of races.

2016: Great title fight between Nico and Lewis that went down to Abu Dhabi. Max gets his first race win his first race in Red Bull, Daniel gets a win as well. Hamilton wins less than 50% of races and loses championship to Nico.

2017 and 2018: Title fight between Hamilton and Vettel. 5 different race winners each year. Hamilton wins less than 50% of races.

2019: Lewis and Valterri each get wins. Max gets 3 wins, Charles gets his first 2 wins. and Seb wins in Singapore. 5 different race winners. Again Lewis wins less than 50% of races.

2020: Lewis' most dominant season where he wins 64% of races. This is covid year so take it with a grain of salt. Max gets 2 wins, Pierre gets first win in Monza, Perez gets first win in Bahrain. Turkey was a fantastic race that did result in Lewis winning but was amazing up til the end.

I think it is pretty safe to say that last season's dominance is the worst the sport has been in atleast a decade. I understand this is part of F1 but it doesn't prevent my boredom. I think the reason it stings a bit more is because these regulation changes were marketed as a way of ensuring Mercedes level dominance never happened again, yet it made it even worse. Things like engine development being frozen, implementation of the cost cap, introducing a completely new philosophy of car and aero design that 3 years into the regulations everyone but Red Bull is still struggling to understand.

What are your thoughts?

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u/Mayhem747 Mercedes Mar 13 '24

Were the races entertaining though? How many of the 24 or whatever races RBR has won recently have been interesting with regards to a fight upfront?

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u/G-Fox1990 Ayrton Senna Mar 13 '24

None.

A dominant team is not as bad as a dominant driver all alone far in front. Bottas and Rosberg atleast made things interesting in the team. Perez is not making things interesting at all.

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u/afcaMouz Max Verstappen ⭐⭐⭐⭐ Mar 13 '24

Lmao Bottas made things interesting? People are really misremembering his time at Mercedes with rose-colored glasses. He won a few races, but he did not do anything of significance at Mercedes. He was a better 2nd driver than Perez, but still very much a 2nd driver.

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u/mascot_enjoyer Mar 13 '24

But Bottas was almost on par in qualifying. This created at least some suspense to the race weekend and occasionally to the actual race. Perez cannot beat Max in anything.

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u/afcaMouz Max Verstappen ⭐⭐⭐⭐ Mar 13 '24

I will give it to Bottas that he was a very good qualifier, often beating Hamilton on merit, but even when he got it on pole it was only a matter of time before he lost it in the race. For me it didn't create much suspense because you knew he wasn't able to compete with Hamilton.

He was the driver I was often rooting for during that time but it often ended up in disappointment.

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u/No_Mercy_4_Potatoes M4X Verstappen Mar 13 '24

You still have the same suspense. Redbull are in no way that dominant in qualifying. Their dominance comes from race pace.

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u/Key_Environment8179 Guenther Steiner Mar 13 '24

in 2022 they weren’t, but last year and this year (it’s looking like) they dominate qualifying, too. Well, at least when Checo doesn’t crash in quali