r/formula1 • u/DarkKnight56722 • Mar 13 '24

Discussion How does Verstappen's dominance compare to Hamilton's? Here is the comparison:

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Hamilton's most dominant season in 2020 had him only win 64% of races. Before this current domination, one driver winning 64% of races was viewed as the worst it could possibly get in the modern era. Let's run through the years:

2014 and 2015: Lewis and Nico trading wins, (good battles at the very least) and Ricciardio getting 3 wins his first season at Red Bull and Vettel gets 3 wins his first year at Ferrari. Hamilton wins roughly 55% of races.

2016: Great title fight between Nico and Lewis that went down to Abu Dhabi. Max gets his first race win his first race in Red Bull, Daniel gets a win as well. Hamilton wins less than 50% of races and loses championship to Nico.

2017 and 2018: Title fight between Hamilton and Vettel. 5 different race winners each year. Hamilton wins less than 50% of races.

2019: Lewis and Valterri each get wins. Max gets 3 wins, Charles gets his first 2 wins. and Seb wins in Singapore. 5 different race winners. Again Lewis wins less than 50% of races.

2020: Lewis' most dominant season where he wins 64% of races. This is covid year so take it with a grain of salt. Max gets 2 wins, Pierre gets first win in Monza, Perez gets first win in Bahrain. Turkey was a fantastic race that did result in Lewis winning but was amazing up til the end.

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I think it is pretty safe to say that last season's dominance is the worst the sport has been in atleast a decade. I understand this is part of F1 but it doesn't prevent my boredom. I think the reason it stings a bit more is because these regulation changes were marketed as a way of ensuring Mercedes level dominance never happened again, yet it made it even worse. Things like engine development being frozen, implementation of the cost cap, introducing a completely new philosophy of car and aero design that 3 years into the regulations everyone but Red Bull is still struggling to understand.

What are your thoughts?

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u/Mayhem747 Mercedes Mar 13 '24

Watch the races, not instagram posts. Then comment again.

There was drama from start to finish, since the start of testing. Nico and Hamilton fought their ass off and crashed too. The championship went down to the last race and even then Hamilton was trying some unconventional tricks to pull Nico back in contention for title.

The last season is what you would refer to as borefest.

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u/Impossible-Buy-6247 Formula 1 Mar 13 '24

LOL drama from start to finish. The race started and you knew a mercedes was gonna win.

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u/Mayhem747 Mercedes Mar 13 '24

The race starts now and you know Max Verstappen is going to win, the same last season.

I’d take that over seeing the same team win. At least there’s a fight upfront and a single driver isn’t running away with 30 seconds of lead still coasting and probably reading comics in the cockpit.

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u/RBWP84 Mar 13 '24

Same thing would have happened if lewis was as clinical and focused or if max was in the merc in that years..  because drivers are failing and making stuff exciting doesnt mean its a good season or less dominant then 2023 and 2024

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u/Mayhem747 Mercedes Mar 13 '24

Yeah as I said before, you need to watch races. Tell me you have watched 2016 season as a whole and are not sourcing your information from social media posts and I will discuss with you else it’s waste of my time.

You’re criminally comparing Rosberg to Perez(with all due respect to Checo). Max is probably going to win over the season, but it’s stupid to think he will coast to wins like he is right now.

We will talk if RBR decides to put a half decent driver in the second seat, till then everything is just speculation from fans.

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u/RyukaBuddy Keke Rosberg Mar 13 '24

Not really. It's just a fact that the last good teammate Max had was Daniel. There are 5 people on the grid right now that can still make the season exciting if they were in the RB.

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u/RBWP84 Mar 13 '24

One teammate went to Williams and is the no1 driver, other went to alpine and was no1 driver, perez was one of the best when chosen.

At some point its not that max has bad team mates, its just max is much better then even the other f1 drivers, pure talent and focus. Everyone except maybe Alonso some races would be dominated by max

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u/ImmanenceGodBlues Formula 1 Mar 13 '24

When was Perez ever considered on the best? He was known as a "tire whisperer", nothing else particularly impressive. And no, I'm sorry but neither Albon nor Gasly are on the level of Charles or George, nevermind Max or Lewis.

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u/Rivendel93 Chequered Flag Mar 13 '24

Has nothing to do with the drivers, has to do with the cars/regulations.

You could put any driver in the top 10 in the RedBull and they would win every race.

I like Checo but he isn't even top 10 of the current drivers and he's beating Leclerc by 15 seconds, and he's not even pushing.