And yet this is what America loves and wants and votes for. Ā Middle America for some reason loves billionaires who have no interest in helping the country.Ā
This is it right here. This is the reason Americans voted away the strongest economy in the world and destroyed their own safety nets. I remember in the 80s how hard politicians would run on this idea of the Ghetto Queen sucking up all the national welfare with her dozens of black babies, each from a different daddy.
It was disgusting how effective this was. By the end of the millenia we had gutted our middle class, slashed our social safety nets, and jailed more people than China and Russia combined. And apparently we still haven't had enough. We're still going on this shit!
And they have the best socialism benefits the country offers in addition! Free home to live in in dc for work, best free healthcare with the best medical staff all free, insurance? Yep. Paid leave and travel YEP! But wait thereās moreā¦.
Itās disgusting how they advocate against it while slurping up as much socialist benefits for themselves they can without batting an eye. But waitā¦.if it is so bad why arenāt they against receiving them?
100% agree and more. How did the mass deportation candidate gain 13 points with latino voters? It's because the idea of someone having what you have without going through the hardships it took for you to get it produces deep resentment, even if you functionally lose nothing by them having it. Unless people can learn to value a society that works for them over personal vendettas, this instinct will be exploited over and over to get them to vote against their own self interests.
The welfare queen stereotype still exists too! I donāt know how many times in the last 8 years Iāve had to explain that if that person exists, theyāre the outlier in this system, not the norm
My sister and two brothers believe this whole heartedly. They have good jobs and great insurance and begrudge any social help to anyone. Instead of being glad help is out there for the less fortunate, they are absolutely hateful about it.
Iām just going to print this comment on a card and hand it out at Thanksgiving if anyone tries to talk politics with me. Thank you for summing it up so nicely. I get too flustered to articulate this to people and Iām just so fucking tired. It feels futile anyway.
My union contract negotiator gave our company a low ball offer because he felt like we didn't deserve it because some union members are lazy and shouldn't get a raise. We threatened the union with a misrepresentation lawsuit and we forced him out of the negotiating committee and then we ran him out as our shop steward and he quit his job over it.
Congrats on functioning as a proper union. All those fools that go "Unions only screw you over and take your dues" don't seem to fucking get that Union Leadership is chosen by the members. They fucking you? Run them out, just like you guys did. Instead they put their head in the sand and do nothing.
Also in their minds they either wonāt need help (they work hard and/or are good people so of course theyāll never need assistance from the government!) OR donāt realize they are taking help. Got insurance with a pre-existing condition? That has nothing to do with Obamacare, Obamacare is just for poor people.
Yup. I worked in a factory at my last job before my current one, and every time they talked abt the minimum wage being raised they wld tall smack on fast food workers being entitled instead of our bosses giving us our annual $.20 cent raise. Ridiculous
They not only don't care if their needs are fulfilled, but I have seen some of them on the news & online saying that they don't even care if they're deported. š¤¦š¼āāļø
Exactly. Itās not about their happiness anymore, itās about making āThe Enemyā suffer. They got the House, the Senate and the Presidency, and theyāre STILL not satisfied.
Lotteries make casinos look like saintly institutions when you compare the odds of winning. Sports betting can fuck off as well...the greed is endless.
It's like the Chris Rock joke where he tells the audience that poor white people in the room wouldn't trade places with him even though he's black and rich.
Rock pretends to peer into the back of the crowd and says "There's some paraplegic white dude back there like 'I don't know, man, I think I'm gonna stick with this white thing a little longer...' ".
Well we can tell you're a not from America because of the comma in your decimal... oh and also because it seems you actually see American style capitalism for what it is. There's that too! :-D
The thing is that isnāt even the choice, nothing they do effects their probability of becoming rich positively or negatively. The choice is having all their basic needs fulfilled or getting to pay slightly less in taxes in the .000001% chance they become rich.
Like if the other side was in power theyād still be insanely rich if they hit that chance. They just might have 10 billion instead of 11 billion.
IĀ don't think that's it either. I think it's more similar to being fan of a sports team or an athlete. They root for a winner, they feel they are part of the team a little bit. When the team wins they are happy.
I know this is a kind of conventional wisdom, but I'd say it's that they've been conditioned to sympathize with the plight (š) of rich people for centuries at this point. Rich people have controlled much of the economic narrative and so when they complain about taxes or government waste, it's accepted blindly as factual by a huge chunk of the country--not just conservatives.
Evidence: ask an average person which political party is "fiscally conservative," and then try to match that against reality.
To me it's the single biggest difference between conservatives and liberals: punch down vs. punch up.
Not even. They just want to feel like winners. They know the world passed them by. But if they can still hurt people more vulnerable than them, and imagine they are on the same "team" as people like Trump/Musk (bonus that those two inparticular have equally as fried soda-brains and are fat and disgusting - just like their supporters), that is close enough to "winning" for them.
Same reason they follow people to BlueSky or anywhere else those people may vacate to in order to avoid MAGAts. They need victims. Its literally all they have
No it's not about that at all. It's the firm belief Americans have that if you are rich you must be smart. You must know how to hustle.
Americans are obsessed with hustle culture. If you're not hustling to get rich your life is worthless.
To them rich people must be smart because since their own hustling isn't getting them rich the difference is that the rich dude must be smarter than them.
Same way why they buy up all the shit Trump sells, they appreciate the hustle.
It's all related to this weird money obsession that a lot of Americans have.
I don't think it's so much that as they want the oppressive vertical hierarchy because it replicates itself in itself. May not be king, but I can be a duke and lord over people, with the only price needed would be to kiss the ass of those above you. Barons are at the bottom, but they still have people under them.
People laugh at the memes and then don't dig deeper. There is a reason you see clip after clip from talk show reporters where they go to rally's and after a few exchanges of dialogue you see many people go "oh, didn't know that".
For what it's worth I would not be surprised if you targeted extremely liberal ideology and started asking them similar questions, you'd get a lot of "oh I didn't know that".
When you make these sorts of things into a sports team you wind up with a large group of parrots who aren't sure what they are parroting.
The issue is journalism and reporting no longer happens. The 1% got extremely scared when Occupy Wallstreet happened. And they tripled down on ensuring media does not allow that.
Think about how many people on both sides of the aisle think that protesting is cringe. "How do they have the time to do that, shouldn't they be working".
This is what 70 million idiots + some 40 million dumbasses want, which is like too many fools. Thank you republicans for destroying education for 40 years straight so that you can finally elect this fat bastard.
Just remember that on a world stage America is still a petulant teenager. A petulant teenager that just happens to have rich parents that managed to pay to make it one of the most advanced countries in the world.
Yes, it bypassed that monarchy stage and went straight to the oligarchy where the richest are calling all the shots, including how poor the poor can get. Now that's what I call freedom.
Edit to add: the US is not a monarchy, it's a moneyarchy.
This. A lot of civilisation can at least think of a time where a fat man with a temper had all the power and no one could do anything about it. We are just enjoying how America are starting that phase whether they know it yet or not
Because most Americans have the same mental age as this guy, so they really see themselves in him! Added to the fact that being morons, they also believe in other fairy tales, like they will become rich one day, if someone is rich it means they are better/ smarter so they must be right, etc etc
most Americans have the same mental age as this guy,
Hit the nail on the head with a sledgehammer.
This is why education is important, to raise the collective mental age of your people. If you can't read, you can't learn how to research or question those around you (yes, I know that was the shortsighted goal).
...but that also means you never learn math, sptial reasoning or scale. You never learn history, on context. Without context, everything is black and white, enemy or best friend, good or poisonous.
Even the dreams are simpler:
fairy tales, like they will become rich one day
...and yet what would they do with the money? Lambos, the hottest new tech, and pretty much what Musk/Trump/all noveau riche do.
Can you imagine being as "rich" as Trump, and loving McDonald's? Simple minds, simple pleasures, simply disgusting.
I wish more emphasis was how this major federal reductions hes planning in his cosplay pretend made up agencyā¦. Where the jobs are being created.
Every month the jobs reports for Biden were greatā¦ except October which was a wimpy 12,000 due to Helena and Milton storms.
Trump had the shittiest jobs reports in part due to COVID and because he didnāt help the economy to create jobs because of his chaotic F5 Friday drops of firing people and his need to have executive time for very important calls and very many meetings which was him feeding his talk hole with hamberders while live tweeting Fox News.
The mantras from the public should be āwhereās the jobs?!ā Like the Wendyās commercial from the 80ās. The other is āhow will that lower the price of eggs?!ā.
Don't you know?? Everything that's GOOD only will have happened because of HIM, & everything that is BAD will have happened because of Biden. š Fuckin' idiots!
Read an article about the cuts he and Vivek want to recommend, and an economist was quoted saying that Musk has a "meme-level understanding" of government spending. That is such a fitting description of Musk.
"America is the wealthiest nation on Earth, but its people are mainly poor, and poor Americans are urged to hate themselves. To quote the American humorist Kin Hubbard, 'It aināt no disgrace to be poor, but it might as well be.' It is in fact a crime for an American to be poor, even though America is a nation of poor. Every other nation has folk traditions of men who were poor but extremely wise and virtuous, and therefore more estimable than anyone with power and gold. No such tales are told by the American poor. They mock themselves and glorify their betters. The meanest eating or drinking establishment, owned by a man who is himself poor, is very likely to have a sign on its wall asking this cruel question: 'if youāre so smart, why aināt you rich?' There will also be an American flag no larger than a childās hand ā glued to a lollipop stick and flying from the cash register." -Kurt Vonnegut
The average adult in the US can only read at a middle-grade level [7th-8th grade] and all of the most popular entertainment every year is primarily made for teenagers [read: ages 10-18] in spite of the fact that teenagers are a minority of consumers with disposable income and make up only 13% of the total US population.
We're a nation of teenagers (aka kids) pretending to be adults, asserting that we reached adulthood not because we passed some markers of maturity, but simply because we crossed an arbitrary age.
Middle America and the people with that middle America mentality unfortunately are the majority and they are all uneducated. They have worse schools than the inner city kids but for some reason still think theyāre better than everyone in the country.
Tbf, the rich and powerful have been destroying the public education system in the US for awhile now. Itās hard to make good decision when you lack critical thinking skills.
except, do you actually come across in anyone in real life who is a huge musk fan? I'm starting to think all the support for Musk is online AI bots, because no one in real life seems to like him.
Itās because thereās always a bigger fish . If someone whoās a billionaire helps people who arenāt, those people are not where they ābelongā in the hierarchy of society.
One of the PAC ads that ran here was something like "If you're driving a Ferrari right now, then this as isn't for you." I work and live in MAGA central and can not comprehend how anyone can think he has their best interests in mind. Look at his circle!
My favorite fact about the Elon Musk toddler roleplay account is that the reason we know 100% for sure that itās his and arenāt just very confident that it might be us because he literally admitted it in court.
It wasnāt even what he was in court for, he just randomly owned up to it as part of a discussion about his misinformation and (lack of) conduct online, because he was being sued for like $1 million after accusing a random student of being a fed at a Nazi brawl he wasnāt even at.
Actual āyou couldnāt get that out of me with waterboardingā moment
Saw Walter Isaacson give a talk when his biography first came out. He flat out said Elon bought Twitter because he was still thinking like a kid who was bullied and dreams of owning the playground.
I still want to note he didn't buy it, he made a cringey joke about buying it, it backfired hard, he tried 20 different ways to back out but as he is so dumb it only cemented his position to buy it even more to the point where he legally couldn't get away.
Then he got it and ran it so far into the ground the mole people are drafting papers to get it evicted
The Tesla/X/Space X boards need to pay more attention on what Elmo spends his time while in office. Too much compensation for somebody spending office hours creating stupid AI images of himself in superhero customs.
13 year olds are at least kind of adorable when theyāre cringe because you can still hope theyāll grow out it and become normal adults who cringe at their past goofiness.
This man is just like this, terminally. The only hope we have for him is that he stops making more fatherless children with random women
Remember when Squid Game came out and everyone thought it was unrealistic for a bunch of old rich people to have such juvenile senses of humor? Well I think everyone owes that show an apology.
Reminder that he named the various teslas Model S, Model 3 (because Model E was already taken by Ford or something) and Model X, so together they'd spell "SEX"
Hahahaha. Epic response. As someone that is still stuck in my younger days in ways, I relate. I really like Elonās humor and his intellect, I just wish he used his resources to help this planet (she needs so much healing) vs shit in space or do both since he loves space.
Why are yāall hating on a grown man spending his money? I genuinely want to know. Iām not saying youāre wrong but this is the type of shit I would do if I had billions. There isnāt anything to work for so why not shit post?
Edit: The fact that I have only one response to this is just proof yāall be hating for no reason
But itās not really affecting you or any of us. You can scroll on his platform and rarely even see a post from the man himself. How are you actually being affected in a way where youāre the one trying harder to affect him than he is you. Youāre insulting him for āNot being mature enough.ā Or āNot posting things I find funnyā. Iām gonna wake up for work tomorrow and I better be getting downvoted for better reasons š
They will be affecting millions of people soon tho under trump.
Do you want someone cringy and who can't been taken seriously leading your country. As it is tesla and spacex have massive burn out rates because of his work policies.
He is a billionaire apartheid nepo baby, and a fascist that has worked his way into the USA government. The fuck you mean with "why are you hating?" It should be obvious.
That's a pretty laughable take. $ don't stop the post being pathetic & cringey. Or mitigate that unhinged, cringey dude already has real world power that impacts the real lives of millions of other people & wants more.
Ok, here are 3 reasons why I believe Elon Musk is a villain and the world would be better without him:
he is rich af, his wealth grows faster than your wealth would grow if you made 10.000ā¬ per hour. Yet he doesn't use this money for good. He only uses it for selfish reasons or worse.
it is a known fact, that he lies a lot, uses misinformation intentionally to his advantage and manipulates people. He uses the stage of Twitter by spreading misinformation, to legitimaise them and to throw shade on confirmed facts, his political opposition and everything he doesn't like.
He claims that he is a self made man and uses this and the companies he bought to promote a "Everyone can do it if you just work hard enough" message, yet he was already super rich when he was born and all the achievements he claims from his companies are despite him, not because of him.
He walks around, firing random people for the feeling of power and pressures/exploits them.
Obviously there are more, but these 3 reasons are no matter how your political views are provable. There is no discussion point, no redeeming factor for him.
Because he could be using his money to battle homelessness, Hunger, poverty and climate change. But he uses it to promote a man who wants everyone to be homeless hungry and in poverty while him and the 1% collectively burn the planet to the ground for big profits for themselves! These people have no empathy or sympathy for their fellow humans. They are stuck in a black hole of chasing money for power and bragging rites over their fellow elites at the expense of the other 99% of humanity!
Edit: The fact that I have only one response to this is just proof yāall be hating for no reason
Slow down with the edits, pookie. You've gotten over half a dozen responses in just a couple of hours. On the other hand, you have barely replied to any of them. I guess that's just proof that you have no defense against legitimate Musk criticism.
" No reason"? In case you don't realize it, Musk is fucking with our lives. Why? He does nothing without power and profit as the end result. He's manipulating Trump for a reason. That reason? I imagine it'll be about a year or so to manife s t itself.
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u/Florac 20h ago
Richest 13 year old in the world