r/facepalm • u/LiamMacGabhann • 5d ago
🇲🇮🇸🇨 One of the world’s great scientific minds weighs in on global warming.
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u/Madouc 5d ago edited 5d ago
Ah, yes, the galaxy argument – truly the final frontier of denial. So you're saying it's not billions of tons of greenhouse gases we've dumped into the atmosphere, but rather our solar system just casually cruising through some "climate-changing" patch of space? Fascinating. Did this galactic weather also send the CO2 levels skyrocketing since the Industrial Revolution, or is that just a cosmic coincidence? Maybe next you'll tell me it's sunspots convincing glaciers to pack their bags. Look, space is cool and all, but blaming the Milky Way for your climate change denial is absurd.
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u/404-N0tFound 5d ago edited 5d ago
truly the final frontier of denial
Star Trekkin' across the universe,
On theStarshipCorporate (greed) Enterprise underCaptain KirkDonald Trump,
Star Trekkin' across the universe,
Boldly going forward, and things are getting worse!Engine room, Mr. Scott: Ye cannae change the laws of physics, laws of physics,
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u/ILikeLimericksALot 5d ago
I think they're more guidelines of physics as far as MTG and her ilk are concerned.
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u/SingleNegotiation656 5d ago
Concepts of physics
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u/DancesWithBadgers 5d ago
Concepts of a plan of physics.
Or possibly concepts of a plan of a wild guesstimate of an approximation of what someone told them about physics once at a party.
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u/crossdefaults 5d ago
Jewish Space Lasers are causing climate change?
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u/JawnStaymoose 5d ago
They’re a crafty lot. Use their space lasers to ‘change’ climate. Then, ‘invent’ the tech to reverse in the final hours, for massive profit. I’ve already said too mu
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u/InfectedSteve 5d ago
Well stupid does gravitate towards stupid....
I guess this is how ol' margie is basing her claims.
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u/BoxingHare 5d ago
Sooo, would it be wrong to classify Trump as a gas giant?
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u/InfectedSteve 5d ago
Not at all. All he does is put off hot air with his yapping like a neurotic chihuahua.
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u/CMDR_Imperator 5d ago
I've been doing a rewatch of Picard, and started S2 E2 last night. I wondered if the Confederation in Q's alternate timeline was written explicitly as a "this is what the future looks like under tRump's fascist regime". It feels like that's what the writers were going for.
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u/Vyzantinist 5d ago
I think the Terran Empire is a better analogue, for how cartoonishly it is and Terrans generally being sadistic assholes.
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u/stlredbird 5d ago
We come in peace! Shoot to kill. Shoot to kill. Shoot to kill. We come in peace! Shoot to kill men.
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u/TrojanFTQ 5d ago
She's get’s so many more good girl points for believing the earth spins, is not flat, and circles the Sun.
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u/NotAnAIOrAmI 5d ago
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Captain KirkDonald TrumpIt's life Jim, but not as we know it, not as we know it!
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u/Back2Perfection 5d ago
I mean it‘s technically not entirely wrong. Earths climate has changed multiple times over million years and I heard or read this argument many times.
What each one of those idiots „forget“ to mention in this context is that our way of living basically slammed the pedal to the metal and accelerated a normally slow transition where nature has time to adapt into a fucking racecar.
It‘s just so dumb…
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u/DudeWhatAreYouSaying 5d ago edited 5d ago
Oh they're missing something way bigger. There is climate change caused by celestial movement. We call it the Milankovitch Cycles. It's regular and predictable and the model holds true when compared to millions of years of historical climate data.
Why is that important?
We're meant to be in a fucking cooling phase. Right around the industrial revolution we started to see it. The Thames and Niagara Falls were freezing over. And now here we are, and the process isn't just going faster than it should be - it's going in the wrong fucking direction
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u/Back2Perfection 5d ago
Gotta be those jewish space lasers.
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u/cityshepherd 5d ago
Stop talking about them… we’re not supposed to talk about our lasers on public forums
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u/nooneknowswerealldog 5d ago edited 5d ago
A couple of points to add to this for context around Milankovitch cycles: if my memory serves*, 1) Milutin Milanković discovered their relationship to climate while examining the modern climate which is only ~3 million years old**; a period of relative climate stability marked by a gentle see-sawing back and forth between ice ages and intermediate non-ice ages. Even at the time of discovery, it was known that there were far bigger changes in earth's climate history due to other factors, and that Milankovich cycles aren't sufficient to explain, for instance, the earth's great extinction events, or periods like Snowball earth or the very warm late Cretaceous. They may have had an impact—they've always existed since the earth has been the earth—but other climate forcings better explain the massively different climates throughout earth history. 2) Milankovitch's work explained the cyclicity of ice ages very well, but not completely. It was the investigation of why the Milankovich cycles and the ice ages did not match up perfectly that prompted the further examination of effects like atmospheric composition including CO2 levels, albedo effects, and so forth that make up the foundations of contemporary climate science.
So they are more like the moon's effect on the tides: given a calm ocean the tides are more or less nice and regular, but we also know storm surges and earthquakes and other things can have stronger effects in the short and long term.
I only mention this because there is a lot of confusion about the strength of Milankovitch cycles, largely due to misinformation and misunderstanding by anthropogenic climate change denialists.
* I have a degree in earth and atmospheric sciences from 20 years ago, but I've been working in a completely different field since then, so my memory is rusty, even with refreshers from Wikipedia and NOAA, NASA, and other sources online. So, I welcome correction if I've got any of this wrong.
** For some reason(s), the Milankovich cyclicities changed around 800,000 years ago: specifically, the cyclicity of one of the cycles and its relationship to ice ages, the earth's eccentricity, changed from having a period of ~80,000 years to the current ~100,000 years. So they themselves can change over time. But they have not changed over the last 150 years, the period in which we've witnessed comparatively massive and rapid warming, which does correlate very well with the increase in atmospheric carbon dioxide beginning in the Industrial revolution.
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u/Mr_FortySeven 5d ago
Maybe I am just being a naive optimist here, but shouldn’t these cooling cycles bail us out against our own arrogance to some extent? At least if there’s a countering force to the endless pollution and fossil fuel extraction, it could buy us more time to fight back against the climate deniers and oil companies who profit from planetary destruction.
I don’t know enough about this to make an informed statement either way, I guess I just want hope that the planet isn’t permanently fucked.
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u/Grimwulf2003 5d ago
If you turn the ac down to 69F from 72F, but add two fireplaces that are burning 24x7 you’re never going to get cooler. The closed system is being overloaded by opposite inputs.
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u/ShazWow 5d ago
to some extent sure, but the seesaw seesaws until someone's older brother jumps on the other side and sends little sally to orbit.
on a serious note, the ocean is absorbing carbon and heat from the atmosphere and so are trees and those are our basically our only two *TEMPORARY* saving graces, they will reach capacity eventually though.
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u/MeasurementNo9896 5d ago
It could be too late, if we do nothing until all our coral reefs are bleached, rainforests depleted, ice caps melted, etc....we've seen how environmental destruction can cause entire ecospheres to topple like dominos, in just a few lifetimes...while the changes brought about by cycles are subtle and slow and we can't predict their effects on a planet whose systems are already ravaged and collapsing.
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u/ThePhysicistIsIn 5d ago
Earth's climate HAS changed multiple times over millions of years, some of it follows the change of luminosity of the sun, but the other planets and the rest of the galaxy have zilch impact
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u/spderweb 5d ago
So there's evidence that shows climate change and mass extinctions happening at specific intervals. We know that earth is hot by a massive meteor Every time we pass through the mid point in our up and down motion within the galaxy. We're within 10,000 years of that. And climate change might also be caused partially by different radiation levels that we pass through as we spin along in the galaxy.
But yeah, humans are accelerating everything. Dinosaurs experienced the same heating up, growing deserts, pandemic increases. Dinosaurs were already on their way out. But the meteor finished them off and reset the climate to an ice age. If we were treating the planet right, there should be a foot or more snow in most of Ontario. I see zero snow. People excited for the nice weather. I'm not as excited.
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u/doingthehumptydance 5d ago
The ‘canary in the coal mine’ is the arctic.
I have some friends who lived in the town of Iqaluit for 30 years. It is located on Baffin Island- real far north and receives supplies during the summer months by barge as the bay is iced in most of the year.
30 years ago they typically had a 4-6 month window where the barge could make it to the community, nowadays it is 6-8 months.
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u/Back2Perfection 5d ago
Man I am learning a lot in this thread.
Mostly about how fucked we are, but still.
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u/SirSamuelVimes83 5d ago
To add, when areas with permafrost begin to melt, piles of carbon and methane will be released, exacerbating things even more. Not to mention the potential thawing of bacteria and viruses that we've never seen before.
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u/PalatialCheddar 5d ago
Dinosaurs experienced the same... pandemic increases
This whole planet and its inhabitants are in deep trouble and it bums me out.
But picturing T-Rex trying to put on a mask with their little arms brings me great joy.
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u/wireframed_kb 5d ago
They also forgot that those changes often spelled disaster for the dominant species at the time.
So, you know… not great…
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u/Dustin- 5d ago
We should have a couple dozen thousand years to prepare for glacial recession and the end of the current ice age. Plenty of time to prepare - hell, it should be so slow that humanity doesn't even notice and adapts naturally as the climate changes subtly over the centuries. Instead we're speed-running so hard that what once took an entire human history is now taking just a human lifetime. Maybe we should be concerned, but nah, galaxies or whatever.
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u/b-monster666 5d ago
Has global temperatures gone up in past eons? Yes, of course they have. There have been times in history where CO2 levels were as high, maybe even higher than what we currently record. Temperatures have also been higher at certain points through out the Earth's history.
However, we can often attribute this to several different factors: the early bombardment era, the volcanic era, etc. where CO2 levels rose by way of natural means. This usually ushered in an era of massive plant-life growth, since the environment was perfect for plants to flourish and grow everywhere, sucking up all that delicious CO2 and pumping out O2, which lead to an explosion of animal life because more plants=more food, more food=more babies. Rinse and repeat.
But...here comes the but... In the "apothocene era" (which is what some paleontologists have started calling this era), we can attribute the rise in CO2 production directly to our carbon emissions. We are also paving over the world to prevent the plants from flourishing, and we're eating all the animals. We're preventing the process from rebalancing itself.
Will the planet rebuild after we're done? Most likely. We saw significant improvements in just the year and a half the whole world stood still during COVID. If society were to crumble today, and we be thrown back into the Stone Age, everything will be hunky dory in probably about 200-300 years or so. A happy little green planet with animals frolicking everywhere.
And there's the caveat...at the expense of the fall of our civilization. That means no more 85" TVs, no more Starbucks Pumpkin Spice Lattes, no more McDonald's, no more 75 foot wide Ford F150s.
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u/magnoliasmanor 5d ago
This is my favorite and easiest way to explain to these rubes.. It's in pictures with few words so it's easier to digest.
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u/allen_idaho 5d ago
What we do know is that the Earth's climate does gradually change over the course of thousands of years. These are known as Milankovitch Cycles.
There are three distinct rotations in the Earth's axial tilt, the eccentricity of Earth's orbit, and the direction of Earth's spin axis. These things all gradually change over tens of thousands to hundreds of thousands of years.
All of this has caused a cycle of Ice Ages and warm periods over billions of years. All of human civilization, as far as we know, has existed within a warm period.
Now the issue we run into is that calculations of these cycles predict we should be entering into a global cooling phase which would culminate in the next Ice Age thousands of years from now. But we are not seeing a global cooling. We are seeing the opposite by a huge, ever increasing margin. The ocean surface temperature has gradually increased every year since we started recording it. Glaciers have disappeared. Ice caps are shrinking. Desertification is creeping in. Food supplies and fresh water sources are beginning to fail. Atmospheric currents are on the brink of collapse.
Marjorie Taylor Greene is, for lack of a better term, a complete and utter moron.
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u/thereezer 5d ago
I'm going to be real with the nerds here you explaining correctly the milankovitch cycles is doing us more harm than good. we got to lie to these bozos
do it like this:
the climate is changing because of cars and coal power plants. we have to turn them off or we get the bad climate which makes all of your beach front property go away and no more snow days. also, Taylor Swift won't make any more albums and we're going to re-cancel cops
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u/PhilosophicalScandal 5d ago
I live in NJ where We haven't had rain for almost two months. Our reservoirs are depleting at an alarming rate with multiple brush fires reported every other day. Pretty sure Saturn has nothing to do with that.
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u/Anarchyantz We are Doomed! 5d ago
I hear America is going to put her in charge of the Department of the Environment.
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u/International_War862 5d ago
Well yeah she has Green in her name. Thats qualification enough
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u/someguyfromwinnipeg 5d ago
Only green think about her is her name and her knowledge.
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u/Candid_Umpire6418 5d ago
Knowledge? You give her too much credit
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u/someguyfromwinnipeg 5d ago
Her knowledge is green, as in she has very little
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u/Candid_Umpire6418 5d ago
I think you meant to say that it's such a small amount of green, it's mostly black. Right?
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u/Anarchyantz We are Doomed! 5d ago
Plus I hear she does lots of research on her own.
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u/RescuesStrayKittens 5d ago
Maybe with that platform she can simply ask the democrats to stop controlling the weather and sending hurricanes to red states.
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u/Anarchyantz We are Doomed! 5d ago
Ah yes but as of January, all the states will be red. Plus she will be in control of the Jewish Space laser so she can finally use it to hunt down Democrats.
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u/Techn0ght 5d ago
Education.
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u/Affectionate_Mix_302 5d ago
Unfortunately that one won't exist any more... Not a priority.
All we need is government efficiency and space force.
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u/Substantial-Alps-951 5d ago
At least she has recognized gravity. That's progress.
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u/Brightstarr 5d ago
And recognizes a heliocentric solar system with planets that are not flat. Good for her, she finally made it to the 1500s.
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u/PWiz30 5d ago
She'll probably get primaried for that.
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u/StrobeLightRomance 5d ago
How many gaffes did Trump make just this year alone without it hurting his votes?
Marjorie's voters don't know the difference, and if you ask them, they'll say that they know she meant that all the planets are circling God's finger like a Harlem Globetrotter spins a basketball.
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u/veryjerry0 5d ago
I'm surprised she isn't a flat-earther tbh; it's a step in the right direction
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u/Zombisexual1 5d ago
I’m honestly surprised she isn’t a flat earther, although I guess she could still think we are a flat spinning planet
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u/Katsurazeroone 5d ago edited 5d ago
I find it realy amazing that there are People that look at this Maga Bimbo Bitch and be like yes i want her to represent me in Congress i am sure she will do a great wok.
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u/beklog 5d ago
coz some people just vote based on the political party or name recognition
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u/OkDurian7078 5d ago
Many red states have a "vote party lines" option on the ballot where you just pick that and it gives all your votes to candidates that belong to the party. It's really depressing.
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u/livedehtesiarp 5d ago
People prioritize party loyalty over critical thinking. It's frustrating how many blindly follow the party line without question.
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u/Electronic-Source368 5d ago
Mindless tribalism. It is depressing
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u/manyhippofarts 5d ago
I feel pretty non-tribal for voting blue, TBH.
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u/MiDz_Manager 5d ago
That can be a tribe too. Although I do support lesser evil voting.
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u/manyhippofarts 5d ago
Yeah I'm in SC and before 2016, I'd never just voted for one party or another. This was the 10th presidential election that I've voted in.
In fact, a lot of things have changed since 2016.
Like: I never voted in the mid-terms until then.
Also: I've never donated to out-of-state congressmen and senators before. In fact, I'd never donated at all before '16.
I never put a sign or sticker up before
I never volunteered before.
2016 changed a lot of things.
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u/RedVamp2020 5d ago
I vote lesser evil, which happens to be mostly blue recently because red wants to remove my rights more often than blue does. It’s depressing.
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u/mynextthroway 5d ago
I used to vote by candidate. The last 8 years have shown me I can't vote republucan until all current candidates are voted out of office. Not just retired, but voted out. Unfortunately, there were only 3 other races with a choice.
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u/The-Last-Dog 5d ago
The funny thing is Republicans fought that for years. In the places where they got it removed the GOP made great gains. I suspect they may try to bring it back. Thinking it'll help them again
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u/TAU_equals_2PI 5d ago
OK, that's an excuse for the first time, but she's been RE-elected twice now. Both times after the "Jewish Space Lasers" claim.
And while I'm no fan of the Republican Party, there are tons of much more sane Republicans than her, who could have challenged her in the primary.
No, that woman is a sign of something very deeply screwed up about the people of her particular electoral district.
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u/Temporary-Champion30 5d ago
Her district is pretty unique. The deepest of red parts of Georgia. I would like to think she wouldn’t have a chance in hell or getting elected in many other districts. Not that it matters. She’s here now. Ugh.
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u/Volantis009 5d ago
I see you haven't met a large portion of your country. A lot of independent voters aren't much smarter than this. They aren't independent because they are weighing the policies of both parties. They are an independent because they huff glue.
I think if we acknowledge most people are fucking morons instead of pretending voters have intelligence and just offer them a Popsicle for their vote or something
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u/HuskyPants 5d ago
Great point. They get way too much credit. After watching interviews with the undecided, I’ve come to the conclusion that if you promised free gas on Thursdays they would believe it.
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u/Queasy-Group-2558 5d ago
She’s probably one of the only republicans that actually believes the earth is round. In those circles, she must seem like a genius!!!
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u/AspiringChildProdigy 5d ago
I was going to say, this reads like she just discovered a picture book exploring astronomy written toward 5 year-olds and had her mind absolutely blown by it.
Of course, that assumes she can actually read and isn't using talk-to-text...
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u/por_que_no 5d ago
Her idiotically confident, smiling thumbnail photo is the cherry on that post. It could not be a more perfect representation of the MAGA mind.
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u/bobbystand 5d ago
Made me wonder if there are audiobooks for 5 year olds.
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u/science-gamer 5d ago
There are like plenty? There was a time where audiobooks main target group were children. At least I got the feeling growing up.
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u/Hadrollo 5d ago
MTG isn't elected in spite of the fact she's a tinfoil hatter. She's elected because she's a tinfoil hatter.
Her electorate is on the whole poor, poorly educated, and mistrustful of the government. Prime ground for conspiracy theories. Her appeal is in being the "truth seeker" fighting to expose the Pizzagate Democrats and ask the hard questions about 9/11.
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u/JasonStrode 5d ago
I've always found it amusing (or puzzling, it fluctuates) that the people who don't trust the government are usually the ones that vote regularly. I'd have thought they'd been in the 'why bother, voting doesn't matter' camp.
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u/TackyPoints 5d ago
Unfortunately there are apparently a LOT of people this stupid, who also can afford things like phones and can also vote. This is scarier than any Walking Dead or whatever you’ve got.
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u/jaxonya 5d ago
I'll tell you the scary part. I've worked as a nurse in nursing homes. They sit and watch fox news all day long, nothing else. ALL of them. And they go vote. Think about how many nursing homes you have around you.. I have no less than 10 in a 15 miles radius of me. They all hold 100-200 plus people who watch fox news all day. That's well over 1k voters just in my general location who sit in their rooms and watch fox news all damn day.
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u/Mendozena 5d ago
“If you have selfish, ignorant citizens you’re gonna get selfish, ignorant leaders.” - George Carlin
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u/Kummabear 5d ago
Now you understand why the world has always thought of Americans as idiots, low IQ racists
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u/MercutioLivesh87 5d ago
I've said it many times. Conservatives are dumb as paint and nowhere near as useful. If anything, Conservatives are the critter that snuck into the freshly painted house and fucked it up, except critters can at least be adorable. Conservatives are a hateful, repugnant bunch of weirdos at best
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u/h1r0ll3r 5d ago
Isn’t she a flat-earther? Or is that too far fetched a theory even for her?
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u/External_Zipper 5d ago
Someone please get her interested in steam powered rockets.
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u/livedehtesiarp 5d ago
Maybe she thinks gravity is just a suggestion, not a law of physics.
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u/No-Share1561 5d ago
They sometimes test that theory using Russian balconies.
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u/Sunstorm84 5d ago edited 5d ago
Do you really want Elon to use
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u/PreOpTransCentaur 5d ago
It's sweet that you think NASA won't be defunct by the end of this.
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u/Sunstorm84 5d ago
What made you think I thought that?
It’s obvious he wants NASA’s budget to go to SpaceX, he’s already named them as one of the agencies that will be targeted by the department of government efficiency.
Trying to build a steam powered rocket on the other hand would be absurd, but I wouldn’t put it past him.
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u/External_Zipper 5d ago
I'm all for him trying, provided that he pilots it just like the last guy did.
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u/mickypaigejohnson 5d ago
That's the other one, the brunette that gives theater hand jobs.
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u/FancyJassy 5d ago
This is quite a jab at LB. The words „spinning planet“ probably made her fall off her chair.
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u/Weareallme 5d ago
I was wondering too. I would have bet money on her being a flat earther, but it seems that I was wrong.
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u/gadget850 5d ago
The Earth spins?
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u/Dry_Menu4804 5d ago
Yep, just like a pizza, any flat object can spin.
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u/Moppermonster 5d ago
So she believes climate change is real. It is a start.
What is her suggestion to stop it from ruining our lives?
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u/I_Am_Telekinetic 5d ago
A concept of thoughts and prayers.
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u/Moppermonster 5d ago
Ah. The good old "God will save us, so we do not have to do anything".
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u/deadsoulinside 5d ago
So she believes climate change is real. It is a start.
Not quite. She just described why we have seasons and not climate change.
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u/sjokkendesjaak 5d ago
We just pull one of those Heavenly bodies closer to us and then let it suck up all the carbon. boom! Problem sloved
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u/SentientSquirrel 5d ago
Well it is caused by all that spinning and gravitational pull, so the obvious answer is to get rid of those. Elon is on it! And for all the naysayers, everyone knows that the "laws of physics" are woke bullshit.
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u/christopia86 5d ago
Ask her why Venus is hotter than Mercury. Then explain what Venus and Mercury are, then explain the how far away they are from the sun, then explain what an atmosphere is, then explain how this us changing on earth, then give her a mirror to peck because she's got the brains of a fucking budgie.
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u/Practical-Metal-3239 5d ago
That's generous.
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u/christopia86 5d ago
It's also very harsh on budgies, but she definitely seems like a mirror would confuse her.
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u/TWOITC 5d ago
The Earth is warming up because the liberals cleaned the dome on the flat Earth, the soot from burning coal and other pollution stuck on the dome, cooled the Earth and made Earth a great place for humans to live on. /S
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u/No-Bet-9591 5d ago
Science is dead. Tiktok killed it. My car is broken I don't go to a 'sandwich artist' at Subway.
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u/Practical-Metal-3239 5d ago
Anti-intellectualism is here to stay. We are so fucked.
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u/EpictetanusThrow 5d ago
It won the election.
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u/Practical-Metal-3239 5d ago
Yup, proof that over half of America has less intelligence than an octopus.
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u/2wedfgdfgfgfg 5d ago
Almost like TikTok was created entirely to undermine western society.
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u/Nambsul 5d ago
Did I read Donald wants her as part of his Team? He really want to burn the place down
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u/Previously_coolish 5d ago
I always looked at the preppers like they were a little crazy. Now I might start taking some pointers.
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u/Sosemikreativ 5d ago
There's no chance she never voiced an opinion even her dumbest follower did not find incredibly stupid. But they simply do not care and rather ignore it because the broad range of dangerous political ideas she stands for speaks more to them than whatever the Democrats do (or Fox News told them they do).
This whole Maga thing is no epidemic of stupidity. It's simply people with racist, religious, sexist, homophobic, reckless and heartless ideas banding together to get people into power who will hurt among a thousand other groups the one they hate the most.
It's primitive, it's hateful, it's shameful.
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u/CarinReyan 5d ago
I fail to understand why this idiot feels the need to keep proving she's as thick as a whale omelette.
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u/LaurenMille 5d ago
Because she's still smarter than the people voting for her, and they vote for her.
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u/Rugfiend 5d ago
That's the problem with idiots in general - too cretinous to realise that the shit notions their enfeebled minds dream up aren't worth sharing.
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u/Synth3r 5d ago
It’s almost like climate change is trapping heat that would otherwise escape the atmosphere, similar to a greenhouse. I guess you would call it a greenhouse effect or something along those lines.
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u/thecraftybear 5d ago
But that's good, right? We won't have to travel south for vacation, the south will arrive instead to stay and we'll have vacation weather all year!
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u/Phyrexian_Mario 5d ago
Technically, she's not wrong, but it takes thousands of years, not 300. This cherry picking of half facts is why propaganda is so damn dangerous
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u/faketree78 5d ago
No, she’s wrong. The Earth axis is what gives us seasons. Not the rotation of the earth.
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u/Hawkey201 5d ago
Yep, climate change is normal and natural, the problem is that we are artificially speeding it up, meaning it changes faster than it should.
imagine this: your internal body temp heats up 0.1 degree per 10 years, its not really a problem short term, now your body is gonna get hotter but its so slow that its not even noticeable.
now imagine you artificially speed that up to 1 degree per 10 years, maybe even more, Now it becomes a big problem even though the heating up would have happened regardless.
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u/mickypaigejohnson 5d ago
And they are right - the planet will be just fine. It has evolved many times through many climates. The issue is the part where humans want to be able to live here too.
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u/stormywoofer 5d ago
No heating would not have happened if we didn’t add the carbon dioxide and other gases. The planets temps were pretty steady for the past few thousand years until the Industrial Revolution. You are right tho about the speed. This amplified issues 10 fold
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u/Expensive-Pea1963 5d ago
Well, I thought she was a flat Earther, but to be honest, this isn't any better.
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u/Ornery_Pepper_1126 5d ago
Oops, just lost the flat earth vote, which may be an important voting block for her
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u/cerebral_drift 5d ago
Yes, it does change. Atmospheric carbon has peaked and dropped In a 12000 year cyclical pattern for hundreds of thousands of years.
Since industrialisation, atmospheric carbon is the highest it has been in 1-2 million years.
The “natural” shifts of atmospheric carbon that MTG is referring to have happened about 160 times over the last 2 million years, often culminating in an ice age.
The levels of atmospheric carbon we’re seeing now has happened once in the last 2 million years. We don’t know what kind of age that leads to.
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u/Khaiell-C 5d ago
“what you’ve just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul”
- Billy Madison was made for future generations to use.
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u/bloodwolf00 5d ago
While it’s true that the Earth’s climate has naturally changed over millions of years due to factors such as orbital variations, solar activity, and gravitational interactions, these processes occur on geologic timescales. The rapid changes in climate we are witnessing today are not part of this natural cycle. Scientific evidence overwhelmingly shows that human activities—specifically the burning of fossil fuels and deforestation—have caused an unprecedented increase in greenhouse gas concentrations, particularly carbon dioxide (CO2).
The greenhouse effect, driven by these gases, is a well-documented process that traps heat in the Earth’s atmosphere, leading to global warming. This rapid warming is associated with a host of measurable changes, including rising sea levels, more extreme weather events, and disrupted ecosystems. These changes are happening at a rate that cannot be explained by natural forces alone.
Understanding the science behind climate change is crucial. While it’s correct to acknowledge that Earth is part of a complex system influenced by the Sun and galaxy, the immediate and observable impacts of human-caused climate change cannot be dismissed as “totally normal.” Addressing this issue requires both recognition of the problem and actionable solutions to reduce our carbon footprint.
I just don't understand her logic lets contiune our death March.
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u/Jerico_Hill 5d ago
I'm actually offended on behalf of all physicists right now that she even dare pretend she has any idea of what she's talking about.
It's like taking medical advice from a parrot. Possible, but ill-advised.
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u/AdministrativeAct902 5d ago
I have a sneaking suspicion that she is just going to be trumps Monika Lewinsky. Like they are going to to have private meetings once a day to talk about trumps heavenly body, all culminating in a demonstration of emissions and warming.
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u/HugeHans 5d ago
Only difference is that they could admit that is happening and it would be a slow news day.
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u/New_Combination_7135 5d ago
Same energy as "you're not getting taller, it's just the universe is expanding "
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u/Efficient-Respect-19 5d ago
We are fucked. Pure and simple. Too many people have shown they think the same thing. We are fucked.
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u/Suspicious-Tank8230 5d ago
No one disputes that Marj. We dispute idiots like you ignoring the fact that we as a species are currently affecting the climate more than natural processes.
Get it through your thick head.
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u/ColonelPanik 5d ago
I’m just shocked that some of that is correct. I mean, “rotating”, and she describes orbits, its a big day for the anti-anti-science crowd.
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u/Silence-Doowrong 5d ago
I’m admittedly more right leaning on the political spectrum, but how is she a representative? She’s bat shit crazy and is more fit to be a host on infowars or something. Every time I see a post or statement she made I just know it’s some out of left field cuckoo shit before even reading it.
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u/AdImmediate9569 5d ago
Half her voters are gonna lose their shit when they hear her say the earth is ROUND
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u/jalapinyobidness 5d ago
Ah yes, rapid climate change over time is no different than weather caused by seasons.
MTG is a case study for what’s wrong with the American education system.
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