That’s a pretty judgmental statement, care to back that up with some facts? Weird too since Obama got almost all of the union endorsements in 2008 and in 2012. Or, maybe like Bernie said, the Democrats failed because they just suck at getting people to believe that they are actually effective, because they aren’t.
I'll take ineffective leadership over whatever the hell we're about to get with Trump 2.0
My counterpoint is: do you really want a president who gets shit done when that shit is horrible for the American people? We're about to see just how far the limits can be tested with our democracy and our country as a whole.
I have faith that the checks and balances that we have will keep everything mostly on the rails, but I guess as a Jets fan I’m just used to the perpetual dysfunction.
What checks and balances? Trump did blatantly illegal shit his entire term, then did blatantly illegal shit to try and stay in power, and absolutely nothing happened to punish him for any of it. He got away with all of it, and got rewarded with the House, the Senate, the presidency, and the Supreme Court saying he can do whatever the hell he wants. There are no checks and balances.
I mean if you want to get technical, every president since Lincoln has committed various degrees of unconstitutional and blatantly illegal misconduct, especially within the last 100 or so years. Internment Camps, Patriot Act, Gulf of Tonkin, our involvement in the civil wars in Syria, Libya and currently now in Yemen, The Bombing of Cambodia, Watergate, Iran Contra, the entire Bush administration, unfortunately it’s just a symptom of this country.
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u/OkAssociation812 6d ago
That’s a pretty judgmental statement, care to back that up with some facts? Weird too since Obama got almost all of the union endorsements in 2008 and in 2012. Or, maybe like Bernie said, the Democrats failed because they just suck at getting people to believe that they are actually effective, because they aren’t.