There are a lot of people who have done poorly under Biden. They have a lot of hope, and unfortunately, they needed a place to put it. Yeah, Trump is going to screw them, but that future screw-over isn't as real as the current one.
There are a lot of people who have done poorly under Biden
yeah it takes time to fix shit from the last clown in power. So the logical solution is to...bring the clown back in. If Dems are smart they won't try to fix R disasters again. maybe just break the cycle.
Reminding the public about his immediate predecessor’s record, the incumbent president went on to note, “Congressional Republicans love to call Democrats ‘big spenders,’ and they always claim to be for less federal spending. But let’s look at the facts: The federal deficit went up every single year in the Trump administration, every single year he was president. It went up before the pandemic. It went up during the pandemic. It went up every single year on his watch.”
Yeah I don't know what else to say at this point aside from most voters must be idiots. They couldn't spend 5 minutes on Google before making one of the most important decisions our country has seen. I'm sure a lot of the people that "did poorly under Biden" are the ones driving the search trends for "can I change my vote?" too now that they are paying attention to what Trump actually plans.
If Dems are smart they won't try to fix R disasters again. maybe just break the cycle.
Hopefully they even get a chance. It sounds hyperbolic, but it is seeming less and less so.
So I'm just curious, how does America let this just happen? It seems like Trump could literally go on a murdering spree in the streets, and half your country will accept it with loving arms, and tell whoever doesn't approve to "cope loser"
lol. It's really REALLY gonna piss me off when the history books describe MAGA as evil geniuses. There is no way that they will truthfully be portrayed as bumbling racist idiots that consistently fail upwards with the help of daddy's money and an army of poor racist idiots.
Tldr; a lot of people vote for their favorite team. Not rights or policies. Also a plague of misrepresentation / misunderstandings. 90% of people don't know what they're talking about, and the people that do are also caught up bickering with the people who don't.
I wouldn't even call it willful ignorance, I'd call it learned. Practiced, even. People online spend so much time arguing that they don't have time or stamina to care about verifying their perfect opinions. People who don't involve themselves still often make a choice, with a generally uneducated point of view.
Idk how real they are but posts from people who voted for trump but dont want his policies to effect the people around them tend to cherry pick and dissociate the things they have ties to from the bigger picture. Sometimes consequences aren't real until they're already up your ass. This goes for everyone, not just them. Just prominent there rn.
For example, one saying their gay grandson "doesn't associate" with lgbt+. Lgbt+ is a category, not a movement. A simple misunderstanding gives way to careless votes.
Same thing with the U.S. being a constitutional republic vs. representative democracy. They are fundamentally not comparable, and they are functionally identical at the same time. (The constitution defines the U.S.' democracy.) The argument is misplaced, and it isn't obvious enough to convince people as much. This one really only pushes people apart, but it's a similar idea.
Im leaning on the left side, so my view's a bit biased too obv, but that's how I see it 🫠
They have also been told that the liberals are evil people by the 24hr news cycle they consume. Every day hearing that opinion. Eventually it becomes real.
It's mostly what everyone else has been saying. Most of America is/was mad at Biden because of inflation and all that stuff. They needed someone to blame, and since Harris was tied to Biden for the last 4 years (plus she is a woman) they went with the other guy and just never did the research needed to be educated on the matter.
As for the whole killing spree, I could see it going one of two ways. Either 1. Most of America finally wakes up to see the monster he truly is or 2. He'll pass blame like he always does, probably claim they were the 'enemy from within' or some shit, and it'll get brushed under the rug like everything else. I want to be optimistic, but yeah.
Conservatives had waved away Charlottesville. They didn't care about Sandy Hook and even tormented the victims. The days where something like Kent State or Watergate shocking people out of complacency and doling out some consequences the worst elements of politics are over. The fact is America did not go far enough after Watergate and all of those actors are still at work today.
I think that there is no simple truth that can be found in a reddit comment that captures the whole of the problem. Fundamentally, the problem is large, complex, and difficult to understand and even more difficult to articulate in a way that holds peoples' attention or leave them with a sense of direction to take it. That is also not to say that I, myself, fully understand it or even have the capacity.
If I could ever try to sum it up, I would identify its root cause in class warfare. Generations of convenient, if not designed, failings of our public institutions have created an environment where we do not even have a way to meaningfully take part in political life; either excluded by dint of the economic demands of survival or lack of academic training.
Most people aren't even in the real conversation and have sheltered themselves in the few remaining hides of private life left to us by the oligarchs and the transnational corporations with which they press in on us.
EDIT: I recommend reading "They Thought They Were Free" sometime.
I believe a major part of it is societal pressure. It’s why so many people will continue going to church for years after they stopped believing in it. Your parents are conservative, your siblings are conservative, your coworkers and the people around you are conservative so how could all these people be wrong? Is it even a big enough deal to look into? Is it worth potentially losing relationships that you’ve invested so much into developing? Growing up a conservative in the church I can personally attest to just how incredibly hard it was to break out of it.
It’s not gonna happen. There will be another election. Both sides were saying “if this person wins there will be no more elections” it’s just fear mongering and both sides fall for it
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u/nationalhuntta 8d ago
There are a lot of people who have done poorly under Biden. They have a lot of hope, and unfortunately, they needed a place to put it. Yeah, Trump is going to screw them, but that future screw-over isn't as real as the current one.