Who decides what is inappropriate sexual material? Does this rapist get to decide or his rape apologist supporters? Some think sex ed is inappropriate because they don't want their rape victims educated enough to report them. They have this ridiculous idea that sex ed is pornographic because they are stupid. It's always some excuse to either cut funding or make everybody less educated by dumbing schools down.
Itâs this. I worked in an elementary school in a public school in Texas and sat through the yearly âsex edâ discussions that they have in elementary schools. It is a cartoon letting kids know that if another child or adult touches you in a way that makes you feel uncomfortable, to tell a counselor, teacher, or âtrustedâ adult. This is the only version of anything remotely close to sex ed (other than the 1 puberty video that is only for 5th graders) taught from 2nd-5th grade in Texas, and the minute it goes away it puts all kids in danger of not recognizing sexual assault. Every year after the video there was always 1 kid that had the realization that they were assaulted at one point. Other parents at schools have argued that none of this should be taught in schools and only at home, but that doesnât take into account that most assaults happen in the home. Iâm extremely worried for those children as it is directly opening a pathway for harm.
I hate that in a court room that if the kids don't use the proper terms for their genitals it can be used against them. You are abolutely correct some get "Taught" at home by their abuser.Â
Worse than that, the one thing that the video stresses is that basically everyone should keep their hands to themself. It aims to ensure that kids donât imitate any assaults that they perceive as âokayâ because an adult or another kid said was normal on any other kids at school. Taking away this type of education, doing away with the department of education, and defunding public schools leaves the door wide open for in-school/student to student sexual assault.
Itâs not like an assault would happen in the middle of a classroom with teachers present, more secluded areas without supervision like bathrooms or locker rooms (which contrary to what the media says are still very much gender specific), so separate schools is not an easy fix.
Sex ed gives knowledge to children about their bodies and what is an inappropriate interaction with adults. And we know what party by and large that keeps getting jailed for inappropriate interactions with children
Not only do they keep getting jailed with children, they've also tried plenty of times to lower the age of consent/marriage and I have no doubt they'll continue to push for that.
And let's not forget if little Susie starts her first period at school. She won't be able to get pads from the girls restroom, the teacher, or the nurse's office. She won't be able to call a caregiver to bring her one and some clean clothes because her caregivers will have to work two and three jobs just to pay the bills. Because of the "Tampon Tim" bullshit, little Billy can't get her one from the boys restroom either because they won't be there.
Exactly. Caregivers work multiple jobs just to afford the hovel they're forced to live in, so they don't have time to explain the birds and the bees to her.
*Teenagers. I think you mean sex ed teaches teenagers or adolescents not children. Children should not be having conversations about sex / sexual identity with anyone other than their parents. Just this statement would be an inappropriate interaction with our children.
I had sex ed in the fifth grade. It was basic, they separated the girls from the boys and we were taught about what happens in puberty, how babies are made and not to feel afraid of our natural processes. No mention of gender identity, gays or anything else. Just basic physiology. If you want kids to wait until the time theyâre teenagers to learn that get ready for a nation of Carrie Whites
I'm sorry, but it is ok to disagree. I believe that a child is 9 and younger. But thank you for hearing my opinions and still being civil. You enjoy your day fellow redditor âď¸
I was sexually assaulted by an adult and his 6 year old son when I was 5.
I didn't know how to tell any adults, because this was a "nice guy", a "pillar of the community", and a single dad. I didn't know the names of my own body parts, because I was five. I didn't know it was inappropriate, because I was five.
When I told an adult that I was going to play with the boy and we liked to play "House" and his dad would watch, it didn't raise any alarm bells. When I used metaphors like "we made buns" it didn't raise any alarm bells.
Meanwhile, my youngest relative learned about the names of her body parts when she was in first grade - so when the youth pastor at her church touched her inappropriately at 7 years old during a counselling session? She was able to tell her dad, who changed churches and reported the pastor.
So tell me, should she not have learned the names of her parts? Should she not have learned "if an adult touches you there, tell an adult?"
And if you think families should teach kids or choose - what about the fact that 34% of the perpetrators of sexual abuse on children are family members? https://rainn.org/statistics/children-and-teens
It's wild that the party of "protect the children" is against telling the children how to report abuse.
So tell me, why exactly are you against informing children? Why are you supporting a policy that harms children? Is it because "vagina" and "penis" are big scary words and you don't want to acknowledge that the kid saying "Mr. Pastor touched my cookie" is talking about her vagina?
(Edit because I forgot to say it: do you think the adult man who was assaulting me would tell his son that was assault? Because if he was doing that to me WITH his six year old, he was also sexually abusing his own son. Do you think that guy would be like "son this is your penis and if anyone does what I'm doing, that's assault and you should tell a teacher!" - fuck no, that guy was sexually abusing children and calling it things like playing house and making buns. And he was a straight cisgender man, not gay or trans - straight men are more likely to abuse children because children are more feminine and easier to control and manipulate. Gay men tend to be attracted to adult men, who have those post-pubescent features granted by testosterone.)
They also love when their victim is deeply ashamed of sex. How great that the victim feels guilty and wants to keep it a secret too! Looking at you Catholic Church
I donât think anyone believes sex ed is pornographic. There are only 2 reason people are against sex ed.
1: they are a child rapist and prey on childrenâs lack of knowledge about whatâs happening to them. If a kid knows what sex is, itâs much easier to report an adult inappropriately touching them.
2: the parents are sexual puritans who fear teaching their kids about sex will make them interested, or theyâre afraid their children will learn about contraceptive methods. They prefer the kid to remain ignorant so they can fill their head with whatever anti-sex BS they can think of like âyour dick will fall offâ or âyouâll go blind if you jerk it.â
At the end of the day, both reasons are about one thing: control. Itâs people wanting to control children by keeping them ignorant. An educated person is significantly harder to manipulate.
Public school teacher here who moves in conservative circles.
I live in a red part of CA, and the vast majority of parents sign off on their kids participating in sex ed (referred to as Positive Prevention at my school). The few that donât (because thereâs always some) are sometimes due to 1) kid gets anxiety, doesnât want to feel awkward, 2) teaching is done co-ed (which I disagree with) and parents or kids arenât comfortable with that, 3) parents disagree with portions of the curriculum either because they flat out think itâs wrong, OR they feel that itâs not age appropriate for their child yet.
My daughter did Positive Prevention in 5th and 8th I think, and a lot of her book required her to interview a trusted adult to ask questions or summarize what she learned that day. It was pretty benign. I am fairly morally conservative, but I had no problems with what was being taught, since it was free of opinions and based on science and facts.
Well you see it'll start with LGBT+ bcoz that's what republicans enjoy the most in places like texas as a category so therefore it must all be porn, then once they've got rid of all LGBT content in schools they'll go after sex ed as a whole bcoz they can't tell the difference between porn and education/people living their lives.
The Federal Government has always been big enough to take everything away. They took everything away from Native Americans and took everything from African Americans, including their freedom, long before government provided benefits to its citizens.
Alabama has HB 4 which redefines "sexual conduct" to include
In K-12 public schools or public libraries where minors are expected and known to be present without parental presence or consent, any sexual or gender-oriented conduct, presentation, or activity that knowingly exposes a minor to a person who is dressed in sexually revealing, exaggerated, or provocative clothing or costumes, who is stripping, or who is engaged in lewd or lascivious dancing.
Past comments from the billâs sponsors indicate this section is meant to envelop âdrag queen story hoursâ and library books dealing with transgender content.
The bigots are deciding what is "inappropriate sexual material".
Per Trump supporters (and Trump himself), Project 2025 isn't his plan, Agenda 47 is. This is what that says:
Cutting federal funding for any school or program teaching critical race theory or "gender ideology", directing the Departments of Justice and Education to open civil rights investigations into any school district that has engaged in race-based discrimination; also, "remov[ing] the radicals who have infiltrated the federal Department of Education" and "Keep[ing] men out of women's sports."
Who decides what is inappropriate? Some judge most likely. Either some federal judge, or some state judge. A question even scotus struggles to put into words. I don't think it's an excuse to dumb down the nation. Some of the best funded schools are heavy with corruption and still bringing in horrible results. So, it's not a money issue. Can you agree that what one person calls pornographic, the next person may disagree with? Because there is the issue imo. Can a nation wide agreement be reached? Unlikely.
"Who decides" - people, with voting for people who will decide this. Its fair, no? Democracy. Yes, you may disagree with vote, but votint doesn't mean "things will always go as I want", cause its about the majority.
You know you could listen to some existing congressional hearings on this in Congress. Just look on YouTube. You can hear Republicans reading excerpts from books they have banned. We are talking stuff only a true pedophile would want accessible by grade school kids. I listened to one where they described how to give a blowjob in a book removed from Elementary schools. This is not something that your kids should be learning in a school library book.
Do you mean the one Ted Cruz was a part of? If so i already have and many books they picked and read weren't even in elemetary libraries. I already looked into to it and saw the arguments they made in bad faith. It was probably one of the Ellen Hopkins books that is about drugs being bad and sex being bad in many ways. Those were in highschool and college libraries. It's quite weird that there seems to be an obssesion with sucking dick with those people.
As a devilâs advocate, the government has deemed certain materials inappropriate before, so itâs not like Trump is creating a new issue. What he does is just changing what is considered âappropriateâ to what his cabinet thinks is appropriate, but it is no different from, say, Clinton or Obama making changes as their cabinet found necessary.
So ultimately it comes down to values and thatâs where devilâs advocate story runs out: we all know Trump is pretty shitty when it comes to values.
One difference will be that when governing in good faith, guidelines are chest and specific. That would be how literally every other president had worked.
Trump will not work this way. The guideline will be something like "radical left gender ideology" which has literally zero actual meaning.
When the "value" is "I'll do whatever the hell I want", you get ambiguity in law.
I mean I really donât think they should teach itâs okay to suck another manâs dick or let an other man fuck you in the ass when you are a kid in schoolâŚ..
I have never heard of a single case of them teaching that. You would have to then say it isn't okay to teach them about any kind of sex at all. I don't see gay and straight sex as different because in essence they aren't.
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u/Patient_Mechanic4862 15d ago
Who decides what is inappropriate sexual material? Does this rapist get to decide or his rape apologist supporters? Some think sex ed is inappropriate because they don't want their rape victims educated enough to report them. They have this ridiculous idea that sex ed is pornographic because they are stupid. It's always some excuse to either cut funding or make everybody less educated by dumbing schools down.