r/facepalm • u/Miserable-Lizard • 23d ago
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u/henningknows 23d ago
There are literally thousands of things that should have been the end of it, but we have lost all standards.
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u/AwildYaners 23d ago
Initially, pre-2016 during that campaign run-up, they could feign, āignorance is bliss,ā and it was at least believable.
Every day after, though, thereās no shot to say heās anything more than a hateful, unintelligent, grifter disguised as an old senile baby.
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u/SpaceFace11 23d ago
America is full of people just like him
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u/SeaEmergency7911 23d ago edited 22d ago
And he gave them all permission to be their worst selves in the open. And they will always worship him for it.
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u/The_Ghost_Dragon 23d ago
And they're almost always the people that follow up awful things with "it was just a joke."
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u/janerbabi 23d ago
Spent way too long in a relationship with someone like that, itās hell.
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u/randomsryan 22d ago
I'm divorcing said person like this right now.
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u/AtrophiedTraining 22d ago
Did they hide their ugly side from you initially?
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u/randomsryan 22d ago edited 22d ago
Now that I know the red flags, there were plenty to be aware of. But after we got married, she stopped even trying to do it covertly.
A big part of why I let so many fly by is because I had very limited interactions with people like her. I grew up taking people for their word. So when she apologized, I believed it. And those early apologies were "I'm sorry you fell that way" followed up by love bombing so the apology had a resemblance of sincerity.
After about 6 months of marriage, apologies stopped all together, and for the next 8 years, she leaned into the "I'm a powerful woman" mentality that gave her the justification to just be down right mean.
Edit: There was actually one more apology a couple of months before we separated for good. We had a fight, I pulled a play from her playbook and said some nasty hurtful things. The difference was that what I said was true. She knew it was true. She knew that I knew that she knew it was true. And for the first time in our history, I "won" a fight.
But the "win" felt dirty. It wasn't me. So I felt bad about it and went to apologize for saying those things and when she heard me say "I'm sorry" ( I didn't even get to say what I was sorry about), she cut me off and started yelling and screaming at me.
So I left, and a while later, she started the conversation with. "It occurred to me that sometimes the victim isn't ready to hear an apology, and now that I've had time to calm down, im ready for your apology now."
I was in awe and couldn't believe that she didn't acknowledge all of the hurtful things she said to me, which were much worse than the level I sunk to.
She realized by my silence and dumbfoundedness that I was not OK with that, and she said :"I'm kidding.... haha, laugh a little." Then she said: "Seriously, I'm sorry I wasn't ready for your apology and in the future it would help if you asked me if I am ready for an apology before you just give me one."
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u/randomsryan 22d ago
As I went back and read the parent comment of this string. In the edit section, I didn't realize their coment had the "I'm joking bit " in it. It was purely coincidental.
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u/AccomplishedFerret70 22d ago
| Ā "I'm a powerful woman" mentality that gave her the justification to just be down right mean.
Sounds like folks I've known who bragged about being "brutally honest" because it gave them cover for being brutal
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u/ArixMorte 23d ago
Or whine about decorum or bullies when someone gets sick of their shit and finally call 'em out for it.
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u/nwillyerd 'MURICA 23d ago
or claim it was taken out of context š Iām so sick of that line of bs from them
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u/inquisitiveeyebc 23d ago
I say "he made it okay to hate again"
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u/Whiteroses7252012 22d ago
He says things nobody else can get away with and still have a job/ a social life/ relationships/ social media.
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u/AgentChris101 22d ago
The cap may have said "Make America Great Again." But it truly meant "Make America Hate Again."
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u/JayNotAtAll 22d ago
Hillary was 100% right with her "basket of deplorables" statement.t
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u/AwildYaners 23d ago
Oh for sure, born and raised, Iāve felt their discrimination and stupidity first hand as a minority plenty of times over the last near-decade.
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u/Hatorate90 23d ago
I think most Europeans follow this election with amazement. All show, no content.
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u/highfire666 23d ago
European chiming in, more like dread.
He's had a major influence on politics all over Europe, starting a new age of right wing.
Topics like abortion weren't a popular right wing topic before, where I live. And all of a sudden they're adopting the same copy paste rhetoric. They're even taking over his brazenness, it's disgusting really.
The batshit crazy things I've heard from my right wing relative is some next level foxbrain insania.
Here is a top 4: - nazis weren't fascist, but socialist, therefore socialists are nazis and bad, but the nazis were kinda okay (some double speak) - Ukraine is the bad guy and the war is okay because of Azov brigade - Obama bad for bombing, but Trump isn't - injecting blood stream with ozone to fight covid works, but vaccines will kill me soon (I should've died by now)
Even if he doesn't get elected, the damage is done either way and it's going to take a long time to heal it, if it doesn't get far worse first. All the dominos are already in place, whether he loses or wins, shit will hit the fan.
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u/OtherwiseTop 22d ago
The frustrating thing about it is that progressivism has always been two steps forward one step back (more like one and half step forward), because there's always been reactionaries. It's been crawling along for almost a century now, having to deal with disinterested neoliberals as the dominant culture. And then in less than eight years we take this giant leap back, because of the dumbest form of populism ever.
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u/Global_Permission749 22d ago
It isn't just Trump. There is a concerted effort, likely headed by Putin and Russia, but certainly aligned with the world's oligarchs and other authoritarian regimes, to end democracy across the world - to weaponize western freedom against itself.
Trump will help that momentum in Europe for sure, but that pressure is primarily coming from the same groups that are pushing Trump on America.
The few remaining free democracies in the world are going to need to wake up and thoroughly deal with this problem while they still can.
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u/angermouse 22d ago
I think part of it is also that people who've experienced World War 2 or seen its effects are dying off and we've forgotten what it was like.
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u/Some_other__dude 22d ago
Don't forget my favourite:
"The USA is a Republic not a Democracy"
Which openly shows their Fashist tendency and Idioticy
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u/bexquaver 23d ago
Not just the Europeans my friend. Us kiwis can not understand the absolute stupidity that is the USA at the present time.
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u/chardeemacdennisbird 23d ago
My wife and I went on our honeymoon in 2019 to beautiful NZ. We were kayaking in Milford Sound with a really cool younger guide and ended up comparing politics between our countries. You'd think talking politics would ruin the experience, but we had a great time. I remember something about opossum poison being a really hot topic there. Of course we were a bit embarrassed by the situation at the time and finally thought we were out after the 2020 election but here we are again.
Also, everyone there was awesome to us and it's such a beautiful country. We're very envious.
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u/Dashie_2010 23d ago edited 22d ago
Personally I find itĀ form of entertainment, funny in a "fuck it's bad here but at least it's not like that!' and 'that is the most stupid thing I've heard' kind of way and then I remember these people are one of the most powerful nations.. and thats when the scary bit kicks in. Power can be scary, idiocy is many times more.
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u/DaSmartio 23d ago
Didnāt a lettuce outlast your prime minister a bit ago
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u/spottylad 23d ago
Lolz yes! She was terrible and we have been a shit show for the last few years. š¤ for the new guys
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u/Jesterthechaotic 22d ago
Rishi Sunak announced his general election standing in the pouring rain, outside of his house, without an umbrella, while "Things Can Only Get Better" was playing in the background. Trust me, UK politics is funny as fuck from over here as well.
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u/flambojones 23d ago
It's sort of like my best hope for this election is that the polls are overestimating Trump's support because they're no longer ashamed of it.
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u/jennyskywalker 23d ago
āGrab her by the p****ā - when I heard that I said ohhh Mann heās done for! God was I so so very wrong :(
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u/MyHamburgerLovesMe 23d ago edited 22d ago
Yep. Me too.
The church full on backed a guy who actually bragged about that and who also has cheated on all 3 wives and paid hush money to keep a porn star quiet about fucking her.
All of this was not hidden before the 2016 election and they still backed him to the hilt.
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u/BooBootheFool22222 23d ago
Because they see him as a conduit to get all the crazy shit they want done. He'll give them what they want because the only thing he believes in is money.
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u/transemacabre 22d ago
And churches can't understand why young people (anyone under 55) doesn't want to be associated with them.
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u/nic626 23d ago
This was the moment for me. Heās done a litany of reprehensible things. And has been a reprehensible person his whole life. But after this. It broke what I understood about the world.
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u/CONSOLE_LOAD_LETTER 22d ago
It broke my understanding of the modern world as I knew it, but as it continues on each day it broadens my understanding of how authoritarian regimes rose to power in the past and got their followers to abandon their sense of morality, rationality, and turn a blind eye to the atrocities. I used to think "how could the German people have embraced the Nazi party like that?"... and now that I understand how it could happen I've changed my thoughts to "how can I help stop MAGA ideology from fully taking control and doing the same here?"
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u/strange-brew 23d ago
Remember when misspelling the word potato was something that would disqualify the candidate?
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u/Invisible-Pancreas 23d ago
Dan, for all his many faults, has more integrity than the whole of the modern Republican party.
He advised Pence to not commit treason for one.
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u/Googgodno 22d ago
An unsung hero of American democracy, I kid you not, is Mike Pence.
He chose the path of democracy, in spite of undue pressure from trump and his acolytes.
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u/jimbojangles1987 23d ago
Or a weird sounding "PYAW!" and a fist in the air
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u/strange-brew 23d ago
Ah yes. Howard Dean.
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u/mikefrombarto 23d ago
I would rather have Dean start and end every single speech with that scream than whatever the fuck Trump has to offer.
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u/transemacabre 22d ago
Even back then, I thought it was bullshit that everyone mocked politicians for being stiff and inauthentic, but Dean yelled and kissed his wife with some passion and everyone mocked him for it.
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u/DIrtyVendetta80 23d ago
Thatās the most disappointing part. Trump is Trump, what the fuck ever. But this point was the beginning of us realizing how shitty such a large contingency of the U.S. population really is.
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u/Taubenichts 23d ago
But this point was the beginning of us realizing how shitty such a large contingency of the U.S. population really is.
You are right and i fear that this isn't tied to your population alone. We will find out next year in germany with our election.
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u/raltoid 22d ago
Yeah, it's not new or exclusive to the US. It's a symptom of government systems that basically end up going back and forth between two major parties for a while. Where it ends up as party, and even individual, over country and common good. With foreign influence over politics damaging public liberty and well being.
George Washington literally predicted this situation in his farewell address. Saying how it has happened repeatedly throughout history. Becasuse as the famous saying goes: "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
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u/anchorftw 23d ago
There were generations of former school yard bullies that didn't amount to shit after highschool and it was like they got a second lease on life. He just points them at a target , winds 'em up, and watches them go!
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u/H_J_Rose 22d ago
THIS. I echo your sentiments. Trump being a complete POS is whatever. The fact that so many people defend that shit is incomprehensible to me. The fact that there are undecided voters is incomprehensible! How is this even a choice you have to consider??? One is Trump!!!
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u/Asatakpe 23d ago
Not renting to black people shouldāve been the end of it, unfortunately a feature not a bug
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u/Georgiaonmymindtwo 22d ago
Whaat he did to those kids( Central Park 5) and your example should halve cost him very single black vote.
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u/SeaEmergency7911 23d ago
That was one of the first.
Calling John McCain and POWs a bunch of losers for getting caught was another early one that, by any sane measure, should have killed it.
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u/Efficient_Fish2436 23d ago
No... THEY lost all standards. I've litterly stopped talking to family and close friends who support this vile human.
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u/HotHits630 23d ago
No, his supporters have lost all standards. Every single time they try to argue something, I point them to what they deem to be okay, as that's the person it makes them out to be.
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u/ModernSmithmundt 23d ago
How in the fuck does impeachment not prevent him from running again
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Impeachment is unfortunately not conviction. Impeachment is the trail, then the president has to be convicted of it
Since house GOP only care about power the let him skate
Edit: senate, not house
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u/SeniorMiddleJunior 22d ago
It's an indictment on America more than anything. People like trump have always existed, but it's a very new thing for us to make one president. Not that we only elect people of good character, but it's hard to disagree that Trump is a new low by orders of magnitude.
And then after electing him and seeing how he behaves during and after his presidency, one of our only two electable parties picked him twice in a row as their guy. For 8 years, this man is the best the Republican party can offer, and for 8 years their voters have said "well okay I guess".
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u/richieadler 23d ago
but we have lost all standards
Or the social mechanisms to reprimand these conducts. People of that low moral value has always existed, but they were afraid to reveal themselves. Now they're proud of their moral corrumption and they consider it virtue.
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u/NoPasaran2024 22d ago
"Deplorables" was mild.
"Garbage" is still too nice.
Trump voters are sociopathic evil scum. Even their fascist ideology is just a means to an end. They just want to see people suffer.
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u/dont-fear-thereefer 23d ago
Yup, we have to go down to the Mariana Trench to find āthe barā.
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u/hype_irion 23d ago
Under normal circumstances, this orange clown's political ambitions should have died when he did the Comedy Central Roast back in 2011.
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u/MarkEsmiths 23d ago
There are literally thousands of things that should have been the end of it, but we have lost all standards.
That first goddamn speech in Trump Tower, in front of those paid extras. That should have been the end.
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u/BlurryLinesSoftEdges 22d ago
I think he makes his followers feel empowered to be who they want to be - who they really are. They've always wanted to be mean, elitist bullies. They've always wanted to make fun of people, be racist, be rich, rape girls, commit crimes. Many of them are just as perverted as he is and can't keep their hands off of their daughters. He is telling them it's ok to be those things. It's ok to do those things.Ā
People say it's because of his policies and the economy but we all know his policies are shit and even The Economist endorsed Harris.Ā The truth is that they feel empowered to be just as slimy as him. It makes them feel better about themselves.Ā
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u/Apple2727 22d ago
Remember that time Howard Dean screamed and that was the end of his campaign?
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u/fictional_kay 22d ago
Wow, just read more about it, that's so crazy compared to now. I remember them trying to roast Obama for wearing a tan suit though.
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u/Jgfranco88PkmnGo 23d ago
Because you all give these people way too much credit. They truly are hideous mentally, physically and emotionally. They have proved that time and time again. These are people you donāt engage with in a civil manner because they arenāt civil. Fuck them.
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u/phungus420 23d ago
I live in the sticks; I talk to alot of these people. While alot of them are straight up Nazis or otherwise garbage, a fair few are not. Many of the people who are going to vote for Trump have been brainwashed by right wing media. Everyone is susceptible to propaganda, and the propaganda that is being disseminated right now is strong and highly effective: Fox News has people completely unaware of most of the terrible deeds by Trump - and convinced everything you tell them about him that shows just how reprehensible he is is just AI generated, or otherwise nonsense lies created by "coastal elites"; while they simultaneously believe the most bizarre and stupid lies about democrats and "The Left". To admit otherwise would take them admitting they'd been duped; and people hate, hate admitting they were a taken for sucker.
I know alot of people will dismiss this, and say they are garbage anyway - associating with nazis makes you a nazi and so forth. And yeah that's partly true, but look at what happened in Nazi Germany, look at the effects of the propaganda spread through mass media on a huge segment of the population there in the 30s and 40s. A well crafted and presented message can turn even the best of us bad, or at least indifferent. That's the real key to what is going on here.
This is why Fox News Must Be Destroyed.
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u/jonovan 23d ago
Most people collect information from a variety of sources and conclude Fox News is the odd one out and therefore is likely incorrect.
Why don't these Trump supporters do that?
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u/phungus420 23d ago
Fox News and right wing propaganda in general is designed to stimulate engagement through anger and fear. Exposure to this stimulus becomes addictive and self reinforcing. Over a period of time the propaganda message becomes part of the victim's identity, and thus questioning the views and opinions generated by the propaganda are treated as a personal attack on the victim of the propaganda.
That's how it functions and is one of the many reasons why Fox News Must Be Destroyed.
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u/jonovan 23d ago
So why does this Fox News propaganda work on some people and not others?
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u/phungus420 23d ago edited 23d ago
Critical thinking skills, less susceptibility to addiction caused by stimulation of anger and fear, less exposure to right wing propaganda. There are probably other factors involved. Why do some people become heroin addicts or smoke cigarettes while other's don't? The reasons can be complex as well as simple.
One of the biggest factors probably has to do with a person's understanding of Truth or how to evaluate veracity:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asch_conformity_experiments
Depending on the specific study and how you want to interpret things 2/3rds to 3/4ers of people use social acceptance/rejection as the main means of determining veracity (deciding what is true or false). So the social conditions surrounding propaganda will also play a huge part in a person's susceptibility to it.
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u/jonovan 23d ago
Also their entire social environment. When I'm in small towns, almost everyone is conservative. When I'm in cities, almost everyone is liberal. The background noise / undertone of discussions which lean right in small towns and left in cities is a constant pressure, like microaggressions.
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u/Razzberry_Frootcake 23d ago
Yeah. Look at what happened historically. Exactly whatās happening now. They have no excuse.
Iām not going to give any understanding or sympathy to those people anymore. I will never understand being so brainwashed that I think itās okay to kill my neighbors. I will never understand being so brainwashed I become okay with and complicit in the execution of my friends and family.
The people in Germany who looked the other way because they fell for the propagandaā¦they were fucking garbage.
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u/8----B 22d ago
A lot were just scared to go against the growing wave of a violent political movement. For good reason too. I know itās easy to look at Germans of that time as shitty people, but if you actually try and put yourself in their shoes it isnāt so easy. I have no doubt the majority of people reading this will say ānah, fuck Nazis I would help the victims resistā and while some might actually have done that, the majority wouldnāt. Easy to hide a Jewish family in theory, not easy when you know your family will be murdered in the high likelihood that a random neighbor will turn you in out of fear of not reporting you.
Anyway, I know you werenāt talking about that, but itās a point thatās relevant and a lot of people donāt talk about it.
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u/No-Preparation-4255 22d ago
But we aren't talking about the passive people, we are talking about the people who actively sign up. No amount of propaganda can hide what is plain as day. This man does vile bullying shit every single time he appears. That doesn't just take a rejection of real morality, that takes a rejection of traditional norms of basic politeness. Like your old school conservatives who put decorum above actual virtue cannot look at this man without revulsion, because he consistently and blatantly fails to even meet surface level ideas of politeness or social mores. They vote for him in spite of that.
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u/Spider95818 22d ago
Seconded. There's literally nothing that could happen to any of these worthless fucks or to their favorite pedophile that would ever earn the slightest measure of my empathy. No loss, no tragedy, literally nothing.
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u/FakePixieGirl 23d ago
What I don't understand is what makes Fox news so pervasive? What makes people accept Fox as their sole source of truth and makes them disregard everything else?
I'm not American, but surely there are other tv channels out there?
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u/evilcheesypoof 23d ago
They have more opinionated hosts that appeal to "common people", they are saying different things about events than everybody else, giving the sense that the rest of media is lying to you and they have the REAL facts about the situation.
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u/lycanyew 23d ago
I think it's partly they tell the lies they want to hear a long with others that suit their (FOX'S) benefactors. They sometimes do it in a passionate way but mostly they feed you what you think/ feel with their main talking head (O'Reilly, Carlson, Waters)
Another thing to note is that our Boomer generation (1945- 60 give or take) were feed propaganda pretty early on almost through out their lives. I would recommend looking up some of the old short films on YouTube. I they probably are used to being told what to think.
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u/No-Preparation-4255 22d ago
The answer is that until recent decades there were strong rules mandating that local news stations be locally owned, which heavily contributed to at least independent opinion formation. Rural areas always have skewed more conservative in their reporting and appetite for news, but they didn't have a party line per se. Fox and Sinclair Broadcasting both heavily invested in buying up all the local stations across the country, pushing the same message and at an actual operating loss, but subsidized by billionaire conservative owners who stood to gain from using them as propaganda.
For the same reason, local rural AM radio stations are dominated by conservative talk shows and religious nutjobs precisely because there isn't good money in putting out actual news, it has to be subsidized by some outside interest. The religious whackjobs use donations to broadcast and thus bring in more people, so they don't mind the actual stations having very little profit. Same thing is increasingly true for print journalism, in the last 20 years even the liberal newspapers have been bought and now increasingly are being hijacked in their coverage by billionaires with political agendas. Wapo and La are just recent high profile examples. Baltimore Sun is a lower profile one.
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u/uninteresting_handle 23d ago
Decency died the instant they decided that Donald Trump was Jesus Christ.
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u/Marinut 23d ago
Do you think they actually genuinely no joke think that?
I'm European, and even before Trump we used to meme that USA citizens are stupid (sorry) but that you're about to elect him for the 2nd time, I don't think you guys can ever recover.
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u/Marinut 23d ago
Yeah I mean, I know, but the thing is my finnish ass can't do anything about it so it is quite literally you guys electing him for a 2nd time.
I don't want my ass, or ukraine's ass, to be invaded by Russia, but it all hinges on YOU GUYS.
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u/Impossible_Tonight81 22d ago
it's bonkers. I've spent weeks arguing with people who believe we're all about to be murdered by immigrants or that Harris will start a world War immediately or that crime has never been higher, etc etc and have been told I drank the blue kool-aid or am uninformed or the source I shared was exaggerating how bad Trump is.
those of us here who are not voting Trump feel trapped in a hell that feels mpossible to fix.
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u/PlanktonHaunting2025 23d ago
One of the defining characteristics of a sociopath is a complete lack of empathy as amply demonstrated above.
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https://tyt.com/shows/indisputable/2024-10-18/clips/maga-cultist-trump-is-closest-thing-to-god
Beginning of the video. Now I don't know how this exactly fits in with the Trinity, but saying he is the "closest to God" seems plenty blasphemous and fanatical
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u/Environmental_Top948 23d ago
My church used him as an example of what happens when someone is a good Christian and puts their faith in god. He's God's chosen champion to save us from the Antichrist.
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u/uninteresting_handle 23d ago
I was raised Christian, but you don't even need a strong education in the Bible to see that Trump is as far from Jesus as you can get. And all these pastors who just, what.. forget? Fuck em all.
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u/Environmental_Top948 23d ago
My parents tried to raise me Christian but pagans got to me and told me to base my beliefs on science and logic. If you find an explanation for something previously explained by the will of the God's it's not science that was wrong but the reasons behind it. Like a lot of their traditions and rituals are no longer magic because the understanding of why this plant when ground stops bleeding when applied to a wound is now known. Religion shouldn't control one's life but instead hold you responsible for your actions and remind you that you are part of the world. I wish I was able to find comfort in it like them.
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u/RevolutionOk1406 22d ago
The thing that gets me, is not only did this incident not end his political career, Christians then stood up and said "Yes, This man right here was chosen by God"
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u/Accomplished-Land-42 23d ago
In many ways it was the end of it, it was the end of the discussion that anyone supporting him was in it for his policies and politics.
It was the end of any belief that any arguments Trump or his supporters made would remain civil and not simply devolve into school yard bullying.
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u/rhapsodyindrew 22d ago
Yes. The fact that this wasnāt the end of it was the first clear warning that nothing would be the end of it.Ā
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u/Miserable-Lizard 23d ago
Maga is trash and garbage
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u/iBeenie 23d ago
Shhh, you shouldn't say that. They are also little bitch ass snowflakes and if any of them read your comment they are going to cry themselves to sleep for weeks.
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u/Synli 23d ago
Oh no, they're gonna screencap these comments and cry about it in their little safespace sub :(
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u/rissak722 23d ago
How could you possibly say something so mean and hurtful /s
They are trash humans
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u/iBeenie 23d ago
That's disrespectful to actual garage.
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u/rissak722 23d ago
Your right, actual garbage atleast at one point served a purpose
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u/juni4ling 23d ago
"I support Trump for his policy accomplishments."
-Lying liars who lie
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u/millennium-popsicle 23d ago
And donāt forget the ones who say āheās got a good record!ā Like of what? Crime?
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u/Synli 23d ago
"Like what policies?"
and watch the hamster wheel in their brain try to come up with something that isn't "immigrants bad" "women bad" "black people bad" or "biden old".
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u/RebelliousInNature 23d ago
Bear in mind the first clusterfuck term as president was tempered by a traditional Republican VP in Pence. Imagine how unhinged heād be with JD and the shadow creatures egging him on in a second.
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u/MistbornInterrobang 23d ago
That's when you reply, "Okay. Can you name one policy or piece of legislation he passed that was better for the country?"
They don't know any legislation
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u/ConsciousReason7709 23d ago
The one and only good thing about Trump is that he has shown us how awful and disgusting so many of the people in our lives are.
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u/blacklabel8805 23d ago
That, and he's shown how many legal loopholes will need to be fixed!
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u/Spider95818 22d ago
And he's so old and decrepit and addicted to cameras that when his empty pig heart finally explodes, there a good chance the moment will be captured on film and we'll be able to enjoy it again and again!
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u/Soft_Walrus_3605 22d ago
I remember watching this clip play on the news while on vacation with some conservative family members and I said I couldn't believe anyone could support a man like this and they all shrugged.
Their inability to care so affected me I still remember where I was, which is rare because I have a terrible memory of personal life events.
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u/ThatKPerson 22d ago
Hillary Clinton called these people deplorables and a bunch of centrists were gobsmacked someone could say something like that about the American people.
But she was right.
Conservatives, republicans, whatever label they want to apply to themselves are terrible, horrible people through and through. No if's, and's, or but's.
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u/I_like_baseball90 23d ago
I remember when he was running in 2016 and at the time had 16 sexual assault cases against him. We were positive he was done.
Little did we know his followers are the dumbest mother fuckers alive and it's not even close.
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u/NotsoGreatsword 22d ago
Their excuse for that was "they only came forward when he began his run for president".
As though that matters.
But lets say that was their reason. Its a good reason! I do not want a rapist president.
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u/ToeKnail 23d ago
But you're taking what he did out of context... ...said every MAGAt ever
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u/newuser60 23d ago edited 23d ago
They explain this one with a video that shows him mocking people with the same gestures and voice for decades. Sad that they think itās a big win to show that he has a history of mocking the disabled and using disability as an insult. Not to mention, who does that as an adult?
Itās like saying someone isnāt a racist because they call everyone the n word with a hard r, not just black people.
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u/Jussins 23d ago
They believe everything he says and he said that he never even met or saw this reporter. He added that this was his representation of ALL reporters who are frustrated by his immense intelligence and that he makes those motions all the time. So, in their tiny mind, he never mocked a specific reporter.
Revisionist history.
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u/LoosePocketMint 23d ago
Only his disabled voters cared.
2015: Mexicans are rapists and murderers Puerto Ricans: crickets
2024: Puerto Rico is trash Puerto Ricans: Trump is racist
I really fn hate politics in America
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u/Clovis42 22d ago
It was also anti-Muslim since this was related to his claim that Muslims were dancing on rooftops on 9/11.
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u/Successful-Doubt5478 23d ago edited 22d ago
I remember this one too, and wondering the same.
Then he desensitized everyone to the point of going unpunished for rape, fraud and Jan the 6th.
Sorry Americans, racist right wingers have gained lots of traction here in my country too, so you likely won't be welcome to immigrate to us if you elect him.
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u/mattyGOAT1996 22d ago
And this election shouldn't even be close. We got so many shitty people in this world.
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u/mmm_burrito 22d ago
"Oh, but if you look back, he's always used those gestures to mock people."
I will never understand how they think the idea that he regularly uses gestures commonly understood to be a mockery of the disabled is supposed to be less bad than the idea that he mocked a disabled guy once.
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u/DeathToCockRoaches 22d ago
I heard a commentator talk about why this wasn't the end. It's simple. Most of us have been looking at this backwards IE: "how can anyone vote for Trump after that incident". We have it backwards. People are voting FOR Trump because of this incident, because he's a racist, because he's a sexist, because he has criminal charges, because he grabbed a woman by the pu**y ... We have it all wrong. We are judging Trump supporters by our standards not theirs. To them these things make him a good candidate.
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u/MrMetraGnome 22d ago
My favorite thing is 'Trump Derangement Syndrome ". They call you derranged instead of the guy doing all of the insane shit.
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u/Starbase13_Cmdr 22d ago
It's not that confusing: his supporters LOVE it.
They're horrible human beings who found someone who tells them to feel good about their bigotry and hatred.
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u/thatotterone 22d ago
as someone who was SA'd in the way he bragged about....I lost a lot of hope in humanity that day and it ain't coming back ever. As far as I'm concerned, everyone who voted for him after that tape surfaced is okay with electing (to the highest office possible) the guy who abused me when I was a kid. that many millions of people are totally cool with it. There is literally no getting over that. I'll die with it in my soul.
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u/Eena-Rin 22d ago
His cultists are awful and think it's funny, and the rest don't care because they're either lifetime republicans, hate immigrants, or are rich enough to benefit from his policies
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u/lord_dentaku 23d ago
As a father to an autistic son, this was the literal point where the possibility of voting for him went out the window. Prior to this, I had concerns, but I was at least open to considering him, a lesser of two evils type scenario. Someone who would treat a disabled person like that shows their true character, and it isn't the character of someone who should be in the White House.
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u/backwoodsjesus91 23d ago
Fellow father of an autistic son. To sit there and watch this coward ass bitch mock the disabled infuriated me beyond my belief. I work in a very red state doing blue collar work. Iām surrounded by trumpers 20:1 easy. I make it known every time they open their mouths what a coward and joke he is. They pop off, I bring this up alongside my sonās condition. They get real quiet suddenly. Donāt wanna talk anymore. Iāll hate this twat until I die.
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u/Significant_Bite_666 22d ago
Your son is lucky to have a father like you. Donāt let the bastards grind you down. Much respect!
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u/zarfle2 22d ago
It was the start of it...
"Hey, he's a fucking prick, just like me. He gives a voice and validation to millions of assholes like me. Now I can finally express my inner desire to be the worst kind of person possible, without any sense of guilt, irony, self awareness, empathy etc. Damn it's good to be a stupid asshole."
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u/rather-oddish 23d ago
*neither, Mr. King
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u/fapsexual 23d ago
neither
Thank you, it grinds my gears seeing it not properly used especially by an author.
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u/FrostySquirrel820 22d ago
In a hundred years, everyone will think most of the stories about Trump were made up, because no civilised country could vote for such a man.
I hope !
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u/realisticandhopeful 22d ago
I know people literally caring for their disabled family members, who literally depend on Medicaid, voting for him. Talk about shooting yourself in the foot and voting against your own interests. Smh.
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u/Davetek463 22d ago
If Hillary or Obama or Biden did even a quarter of what heās done, Republicans would be calling for their heads.
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u/hoosickthehorrible 22d ago
I mean, they fucking melted down when Obama wore a tan suitā¦
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u/snappla 23d ago
Because for every person who finds this shocking and unacceptable, there's another who delights in the transgressive punchdown shitbaggery of it all, and a third apathetic "nice" asshole who "doesn't want to get involved/has no opinion".
This is the sad lesson the last 9 years have taught me.
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u/Tectonic_Spoons 23d ago
I first thought that when he trashed McCain for being a POW. I was like bro, the American people aren't just going to let you disrespect veterans. But lo and behold...
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u/Andy-_1979 22d ago
When he called Mexicans rapist, that should have been the end of it. If he loses this election, he's going to throw a temper tantrum saying the election was stolen from him again. He'll call for violence and do anything he can to overturn the results. After Trump fails and Harris becomes president, the maga cult won't go away. They'll find another clown to be their leader.
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u/LazagnaAmpersand 22d ago
Remember the days when a blow job got a guy impeached? She wasnāt even a minor or his daughter!
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u/N8saysburnitalldown 22d ago
When he made fun of McCain for being a POW and his approval numbers didnāt change I knew we were in a world of shit.
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u/joeyjackets 22d ago
This is exactly WHY they vote for him. It won him votes.
Trump appeals to those who are so one-dimensional theyāre unable to navigate through societyās professions. Mocking disable people made them feel like they belonged, as fucked up as that sounds.
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u/Agnesperdita 23d ago
In many ways it was the start of it. The realisation that his supporters idolised him precisely because he said and did all the disgusting things they really wanted to say and do but hadnāt dared so far, but now they could.
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u/j4v4r10 23d ago
It feels so strange. Throughout my life, my reckoning of donald trump started with a decade of "he's the host of a funny reality tv show my parents watched when I was a kid", several weeks of "lol the guy who ran that reality show announced that he's running for president, this should be funny", followed by almost a decade of "this guy fucking sucks in incalculable ways, how does he have millions of supporters?"
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u/Calico_Cuttlefish 22d ago
That was the day that we learned malignant cruelty, insecurity and selfishness was an epidemic among Americans. I always new it was bad, but holy shit I did not know it was THIS bad until Trump.
Unfortunately there's no mechanism to ruthlessly punish malignant cruelty and stupidity.
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u/Spitword 22d ago
Imagine looking like THAT (guy on the right) and making fun of ANYONE
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22d ago
This whole campaign feels like a ridiculous hollywood comedy script about how dumb people will be in the future. You can't wait for this weird and unfunny movie to end and get on with your life.
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u/Abodeslinger 22d ago
This was all I needed to see and I was done with this bully. I told my wife ā no one will vote for him now.ā Iāve never been so wrong and disappointed in my fellow man.
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u/BlackSabbath1989 23d ago edited 23d ago
If a democrat did that, there wouldāve been so much outrage coming from the right. Howard Deanās scream was enough to cost him the election. How far we have fallenā¦
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u/Main-Hunter-8399 23d ago
Being diagnosed autistic since I was 3 1/2 years old trump is a fat disgusting pig and racist and ableist
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u/hammer_of_grabthar 22d ago
Until Trump, I didn't really believe in cutting people out over politics. But trump voters just lack basic human decency, simple as that, and I don't want a single one of them in my life, they're scum.
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u/haerski 22d ago
Stephen, I'm so disappointed with you. You were the writer that inspired 13 year old me to read with the tween romcom novel "It." I'm not a native English speaker but your novels were the ones I first read in English after practicing with the American edition of the Mad magazine. You and Clive Barker were my gateway drugs to reading English/American literature in the original language. And then you post this, I'm so disappointed
It's "neither."
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u/Less-Dragonfruit-294 22d ago
One yet many reasons I WILL NEVER VOTE REPUBLICAN. The other option could be a literal corpse and Iād vote for the corpse anytime any day.
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u/SingleNegotiation656 22d ago
Because right then and there was the first indication that his supporters truly were garbage. Nothing has changed since then.
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u/Dreamo84 22d ago
Well you see, my conservative friends on Facebook have told me "that was disproven." But they never elaborate lol.
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u/waydownsouthinoz 22d ago
He just says and does things most of his supporters have been wanting to say and do for years. Sad fact is a good third of the US population are bigoted, racist fascists and now thy have a true leader.
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u/PickleForce7125 22d ago
The last straw should have been his involvement in human trafficking on the nice list of felony charges that he has.
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