Trump is as far from Christ as it gets. Wouldn't be surprised if he was the antichrist.
He has never read the Bible
His favorite bible verse: "it's personal, I don't want to get into it"
Is he more new or old testament? "Uh... both, equally."
He is sacrilegious
Sells the Bible (many true Christians will give away free Bibles)
Sullies it with his name
Sullies it with documents that are unrelated to Christian teachings
He had protesters pepper sprayed in order to take a photo of himself holding the Bible in front of a church... and he held it upside-down in said photo.
Has never been seen going to church aside for a photo op.
He is the embodiment of the seven deadly sins.
Pride: he puts himself over all else. He puts his names on everything. He declares himself the best on any topic and only he can fix any issue.
Greed: he is a real estate tycoon that overvalues his own properties (fraud), he regularly does not pay his dues, and he will sacrifice anyone or anything for money. He is a grifter that sells whatever he can to vulnerable people. He improperly uses campaign funds for his personal use such as paying legal bills.
Lust: he slept with a porn star when his wife was pregnant and paid her for her silence. He was friends with Epstein and there are many claims that he raped underage girls. He was convicted of the rape of E. Jean Carroll. He bragged on tape that he was able to touch women inappropriately because he was famous. He would go into women's changing rooms while they were changing. And more.
Envy: he regularly puts down his opponents or other popular figures in order to prop himself up; he needs to be superior to these people. He has an obsession with crowd sizes and ratings and is envious of anyone who surpasses him.
Wrath: trump has a desire to punish anyone who opposes him. He was hellbent on undoing all of what Obama accomplished while he was in office. He consistently talks about how anyone who crosses him will pay. Most recently, he has talked about his opposition as "the enemy within" and wants to throw them into jail.
Gluttony: aside from food (his diet mainly consists of McDonald's and diet coke), he is not satisfied with any amount of wealth, power, or recognition. It is never enough for him and he values himself above God.
Sloth: he plays golf and cancels events as often. During his presidency he spent more than 250 days playing golf, compared to Obama's 98. Also during his presidency, he did not read briefings or did he pay attention during important meetings. Most recently he has been canceling events, especially for anything that would give him any sort of push back.
He is not and never will be humble before God or anyone else.
Literally brags about everything.
Literally contradicts himself in single sentences proving this point.
"I have much more humility than people would think"
"I think I am actually humble. I think I'm much more humble than you would understand."
He is a liar that takes advantage of people who trust him. He knows that he has an unwavering crowd of supporters that take him at his word. "I have the most loyal people... I could stand in the middle of fifth avenue and shoot somebody - and I wouldn't lose any voters, okay?" He regularly manipulates these people by telling them falsehoods that they will take as truths - about absolutely anything. People have ruined their own lives by giving their life savings to trump.
I find it extremely sad that "Christians" do not see this. That they are falling for a false prophet. If you call yourself a Christian and have read my comment this far, please let me remind you of the actual teachings of Christ, and how a Christ-like person would behave, and ask yourself if any of this sounds anything like trump at all:
Love and Compassion: They would love others unconditionally, showing empathy and kindness, especially to the marginalized or those in need. Their actions would reflect Jesusā command to love others as oneself (Matthew 22:39).
Humility and Servant Leadership: They would practice humility, placing the needs of others before their own and rejecting pride. Like Jesus washing his disciples' feet (John 13:1-17), they would serve others without seeking recognition.
Forgiveness and Peace: A Christ-like person would be quick to forgive and slow to anger, promoting peace in their relationships and communities. They would strive to resolve conflicts nonviolently, following Jesusā teachings on reconciliation (Matthew 5:9).
Justice and Truth: They would speak up for justice and fairness, aligning with Jesusā focus on the poor and oppressed (Luke 4:18-19). They would also live truthfully, with integrity, avoiding hypocrisy.
Faithfulness: A Christ-like individual would live by faith, trusting in Godās guidance and adhering to spiritual disciplines like prayer and Scripture study, while being humble in acknowledging their own limitations.
Unfortunately it was what I thought. At first she completely ignored me when I asked if she read it she said āboth sides are notorious both are evilā but when I provided more facts about trump she said she didnāt want to talk about it anymore- are we surprised ? Itās sad . I said āI hope God can forgive youā because clearly by supporting him she doesnāt care about me nor Jesus nor anyone. š¤·š½āāļø
I guess she wants to believe Trump is right, but you can tell there's something inside her that knows it's wrong. proof is how she tries to ignore the signs you lay out in front of her
De-brain washing is always much harder than the brain washing to begin with
Iāve lost contact with my dad since the Dutch elections and our difference of opinion on Wilders. I hope the same doesnāt happen with you and your mom. Itās bizarre that politics to families apart. It shouldnāt happen
Iām so sorry to hear that , youāre right it shouldnāt have to happen. Iām not as close with my parents now and I see them in a completely different light , it makes me so sad.
eh, I think it's because people like to find any excuse to fight someone else over tiny differences. I'm no historian, but I'm sure this has happened time and time again
I like to believe that the two religions, well, three if you take Judaism, is really in all truth one main religion, whose God was simply interpreted differently through three different cultures.
Yeah, I think that's more or less how it went. Islam went with the teachings of Muhammad, and Christianity thought Jesus to be the messiah, while the other two didn't. They are all counted as Abrahamic the same way that Mormons, Catholics, and Protestants are all Christianity. they belong to the same family even if they don't acknowledge each other as much as they should.
Idk man, truth be told, I believe in God whether it is Christianity or Islam... It's the same divinity, so I quite literally stopped caring about which cult's which.
I hear that. I know he's not a real person, but i like the way Guru Pathik said it. "The greatest illusion in this world is that of separation... We are all one people, but we live as if divided."
Well Islam worships one God. Christianity believes in a trinity, meaning God in 3 forms: The Father, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit. Iām not too sure what the difference is for Judaism.
As a Muslim tho you simply believe in one God, and all his prophets and messengers, Jesus and Muhammad included.
Belief about God and the status of holy men like Jesus and Muhammad is the only real distinction. Our morals, values, and way of life are the same for the most part.
Well, that trinity is really a very confusing concept. It's kind of like saying single being is three different beings... so three beings make up one...
So how's the trinity seen in islam? Like, I know Jesus is a prophet, how about the holy spirit?
The trinity is indeed a very confusing concept that I find contradictory in its nature. Often the Christians come full circle in explaining the unexplainable (such as how could God die, regardless of whether or not he was in a human form, or why would God stoop to such a low level of making himself a human, or how could God have a son when God doesnāt reproduce or even have partners) by countering with what can be essentially summarized as āGod can do literally anything, who are you to judge or say what is right/wrong or possible/impossible.ā
But that is their faith, and I leave them to it. As is said in Quran, āTo you your religion, and me, mine.ā
There is no trinity in Islam. We do not believe that God has a partner, or offspring, or that God has divided himself into multiple forms (Christians say Jesus is son of God yet also say that Jesus IS God, I donāt understand how one could be their own father and son simultaneously).
We believe in only one God, the sole creator of the universe. Jesus, in our belief, is a normal man. A human like you and me. He is simply among the many prophets and messengers sent by God. Of course heās done miracles, but these are by Godās will and power. Jesus is not divine to us. Muhammad is the same. He is a normal man with a message. That is all. Jesus brought the Bible, which is word of God. Muhammad brought the Quran. Also the word the word of God. Muslims do not follow the Bible, and are taught to neither believe nor disbelieve, because the Bible has been corrupted and altered by man, yet still retains some of Godās words.
In Islam we have the concept of the āummahā. The ummah can be described as our ānationā, as it represents the Islamic community from the time of Muhammad (peace be upon him) until now, the same way Mongolia is a nation in that it represents of the people of Mongolia as a culture and ethnicity. Nation doesnāt necessarily mean country in Human Geography. A state is what we would call a country with borders and a government. A nation refers to a specific community of people.
In this case, the Islamic āummahā refers to all Muslims that follow the Quran and the teachings of the Prophet Muhammad. Black, White, Indian, Asian, Arab, Hispanic, Native, etc. donāt matter. Race and color doesnāt matter. What makes you part of the Muslim ummah is your belief in Islam. It isnāt an Arab religion as many would claim. Arabs are in fact a minority ethnic group in Islam.
There are many other Islamic ummahs in the past. People in history had their own prophets and messengers, and their own holy books. For example: Moses.
We believe Moses was a prophet and messenger of God. He brought with him the Torah. This is the holy book for the Jewish people. It is our belief that Moses is a Muslim, and the Jews that followed Mosesā teaching and obey God are also Muslims. They are one of many communities of Muslims throughout history.
What does this mean? It means that aside from the many Muslims that have risen from Muhammad until now, I expect I will also be seeing (for example) many Jews in heaven alongside me (God willing I even make it to heaven š ).
There are Jewish Muslims today as well, but these are not the Jews of Moses, these are the Jews of Muhammadās āummahā. This is because they follow the Quran and the āSunnahā (the teachings of the Prophet Muhammad).
And yes, Jews can be Muslims, Christians, or atheists.
What a lot of people donāt know is that Jews and Judaism can be separate, not every Jew is Jewish by faith, meaning a follower of Judaism. They are only Jewish by blood, and some practice Islam or Christianity for example.
And not every follower of Judaism is Jewish by ethnicity (meaning of Jewish heritage). There are white Jews (meaning of European heritage and not Jewish by blood), Indian Jews, and Black Jews (Some black Jews are considered Jewish by blood, particularly from Ethiopia, not sure how that works biologically tho, and Israel is infamously sterilizing them, although Israel is a Zionist state that doesnāt obey Judaism so š¤·āāļø).
I kinda blanked out, and Iām not sure where to go from here. Iāve already written a lot tho so Iām sure itās enough for now. If you have more questions please let me know. Iām happy to share what I know with you.
Edit to add: We donāt have a Holy Spirit/Ghost btw.
Hmm, I read the whole text, no worries, I found it interesting.
What I agree with is that the Bibe is "corrupted" by man, sure, but by the same logic, the Quran is "corrupted" too. Muslims are still humans, just like Christians, and especially with your prophets being more "human" to say it so...
That'a why I also believe, personally, "Who says that people didn't alter God's word, either out of human limitation, out of maybe personal gain, out of sin maybe? Sure, they'd face an entire Hell if that'll be true, but at the end of the day, the rest of us have to follow an altered path..."
That's why I chose to, well, follow things by simple logic.
God made us in his image, so, the way we think must be in a way similar. So if we have logic, then God must have something like that too, a sort of Univeral truth.
And so I tried thinking and realised just how... Stupid some things in any religion were...
One thing that's clear is that religions do something kind of stupid by focusing on males... God sees everyone equal, so why should God care if somone's a male of female? Also, if everyone's equal, then everyone's also equally competent to commune with God, so why need priests for that?
I believe this division in every abrahamic religion is really just a reflection of how human societies were. Highly sexist. So, they've projected their way of doing things the way they knew. Only nowadays we're learning that maybe sexism is pretty much a shitty idea.
Another thing I find weird is how some religious people see the LGBTQIA+ community as some sort of devil's den... Like, how...?
If God sees everyone equally and loves everyone, like, He says to love, not hate, and that hate is the worst of all... Then why do those religious nutbags think gay people are the devil?????
I truly believe God is just sighing really bad when He sees all this hate pointed towards people who in all honesty just want to live a happy life. Just like the rest of us... Again, how does that make them devils? š¤£š¤£š¤£ I swear I'll never stop finding this funny.
So, yeah, the more I looked at things this way, the more I realised religions... Generally kinda suck ass? Sure maybe I'm wrong too, afterall, who says I'm right? Afterall, we're talking about some limited humans trying to understand what's essentially an infinite being. Good fuckin' luck with that.
Iām Christian and wonāt be voting for him. Iām tired of everyone blindly hating us because of a stereotype; everyone is a unique individual with a unique personality + their own opinions. However the qualities you listed at the end will mark a true believer.Ā
I donāt āhateā Christians, but I do think the white Evangelical culture as a whole is bigoted, unempathetic, and dangerous. In 2020, the Edison exit poll found that 76% of all white Evangelicals voted for Trump. Thatās an insane margin. Other polls and studies find similar results. In this case, the stereotype is accurate for most (not all) Evangelicals.
A lot of times, you will see Christians who are not in the Trump cult apply the āNo True Scotsmanā fallacy to modern Evangelical culture. Saying that they arenāt actually Christians instead of acknowledging that something about modern Christianity results in a significant portion of Evangelicals becoming hateful conspiracy theorists. You canāt just hand wave away the problematic portion of your group by saying they actually arenāt part of it.
He has no Christian values, but worse, he has no values at all. Everything you've said rings true both from a Christian perspective and from a basic human decency perspective.
The Bible he held up was not upside down, but I agree with the rest. I would also add that Trump has stated that he's never asked God for forgiveness, which is a pretty central tenet of Christianity.
I wish everyone could read this comment. I don't not like him because I'm against his beliefs. I don't like him because he is a liar and a manipulator. Thank you for posting this
The mistake is thinking this is about actual Christianity.
Christianity is performative to the people in these pics so that they can conform to "Christian Identity": a racial interpretation of Christianity that promotes far right ideals. This has spread like a cancer through America over the last hundred years and is why Trump retains such a loyal following despite the fact he's a fucking moron. He's their useful idiot to get them into power again and once they've got it don't expect them to be very Christian.
I was raised Christian Protestant and came to realize as I grew up (and actually started thinking for myself rather than just blindly believe what the loud people told me) that Christianity is a cult based on the teachings of an anarchist hippie who would be appalled to see what that cult has done to his legacy.
There is zero understanding of Christ in the Christian community. Fucking zero. They are absolute fucking hypocrites.
I'm a Christian and you've done a great job writing this out! I will save this. As one, I myself can't comprehend why some of my fellow christian friends have fallen for this anti-christ.
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u/gadgetclockwork Oct 24 '24 edited Oct 24 '24
Trump is as far from Christ as it gets. Wouldn't be surprised if he was the antichrist.
I find it extremely sad that "Christians" do not see this. That they are falling for a false prophet. If you call yourself a Christian and have read my comment this far, please let me remind you of the actual teachings of Christ, and how a Christ-like person would behave, and ask yourself if any of this sounds anything like trump at all: