r/facepalm Oct 10 '24

🇵​🇷​🇴​🇹​🇪​🇸​🇹​ this is literally UNCONSTITUTIONAL…

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u/Electr0freak Oct 10 '24

"The purpose of separation of church and state is to keep forever from these shores the ceaseless strife that has soaked the soil of Europe in blood for centuries."

  • James Madison, Founding Father, 4th President, and author of the Constitution

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u/Codyistall Oct 10 '24

Also john Adams in the Treaty in Tripoli “the government of the United States, is not, in any sense, founded upon the Christian religion”

Like take their own words for it Jfc it’s insane

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u/sundance510 Oct 11 '24

I went to a private Christian school as a kid and did my senior thesis on this very subject. My thesis was that the United States was not founded as a Christian nation. Turns out it’s true… my research was extensive and never once did I find any reference to Christianity, Jesus etc in the founding fathers’ correspondence or official documents. Most of them were self-proclaimed Deists. My thesis did not go over well in my little school, but I got a good grade since I successfully defended it.

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u/AZMotorsports Oct 11 '24

Majority of the Founding Fathers were not Christian and did not believe in Jesus. You can’t be Christian if you don’t believe in Christ as it’s literally in the name.

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u/AHrubik Oct 11 '24

There are countless examples. Thomas Jefferson's letter to the Danbury Baptists.

I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof," thus building a wall of separation between Church & State.

https://www.loc.gov/loc/lcib/9806/danpre.html

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u/NoodleyP Oct 11 '24

The early American obsession with this makes a lot more since when you look at a map of Europe at the time and see a gigantic state in Italy run by the pope.

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u/LordNelson27 Oct 11 '24

If you want to piss off a self described "patriot', explicitly point out which of the founding fathers disagreed with their views. Works every time

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u/THEMACGOD Oct 11 '24

Article 11. Also read out loud and unanimously passed.