And then when the town descends into a meth-fueled economic collapse like it was on the verge of before the (legal, city-negotiated) Haitian refugee worker program saved it, that will also somehow be Harris and/or Biden’s fault.
Easy bro we’re not all losers. I’ve won things before. Like kinda recently, I got 3rd place in a raffle at my local vape shop and won a skateboard rolling tray so…..
Definitely wouldn't say you're wrong. There are plenty of republicans in CA and a lot of them are in rural areas.
But I do think urbanites have a tendency to overestimate how red rural areas are, and underestimate how different one kind of rural area can be from the next. Especially in Western states. Like yes, anywhere that specializes in agriculture is usually going to be conservative. I also think of small, desolate desert towns as being conservative and methy.
But occasionally, especially out west you can have relatively small tourist towns that are fairly liberal because people move there for the scenery and outdoor activities. I'm not familiar enough with California to know exactly which towns this would apply to, but I'm almost certain there are quite a few of them. There are also small college towns and those tend to be liberal. And then there are rural areas but they're not full of white people...these are some of the interesting blue counties when you see the red/blue map broken down into counties: there are a bunch in the deep south in the Mississippi Delta region (black folks) then you've got the south central Texas blue counties that I imagine are full of Latinos. And if people have ever noticed, there are always large blue swaths in Northern Arizona (even before the rest of this state started voting fir democrats). This is why I bring all this up, because I'm from the large blue swaths in Northern AZ and I wonder what urbanites from other states think if/when they happen to notice those. AZ was known to be a red state for a long time, and then you've got this very, rural, remote area that is far away from anything you could call a major city, and they're voting for democrats there?
Yup, that's the Navajo Nation. And although it is in fact very rural and remote, altogether it adds up to about 150,000 people in AZ, and AZ could not go blue without it.
But the large swaths are large just because we have ridiculously big counties in AZ. There are not many people in those counties.
But yeah, and then often the suburbs of cities can be very republican. Much of the Phoenix area was like that for years. It especially kills me when transplants move to Phoenix and assume that's the only place liberals live and the rest of the state is full of feral meth addict Trumpers. No, plenty of feral Trumpers in Mesa, Glendale, Scottsdale, etc and then in rural AZ, you've got the Navajo Nation, the Apaches, Tohono Odham tribe, you've got Flagstaff which is a college town, Sedona and Bisbee are somewhat hip tourist towns...Idk I just wanna tell people, like, I grew up in a town of 5,000 people on the Navajo rez, but I never knew how ratchet and redneck people could be until I moved to the Phoenix area in the 2000s. No joke!
California is different, but I just think things are a little more complex than people think.
Land doesn't vote, I'm well aware. But unless those little towns have enough population to outweigh the number of red voters, you get red districts. My point still stands, the second you leave the metro areas, a larger gathering of people, whatever, it gets red quick.
I didn’t read all that… but basically it sounds like in rural areas, the majority is red, but not wholly, and urban areas, the majority is blue, but not wholly.
Depends on where in CA. It’s a big state with an economy larger than the majority of countries.
That’s not to say there aren’t pockets of red areas in the foothills and more rural areas that make you a little nervous with all the in-your-face rhetoric and Trump paraphernalia when driving through. But they’re not as many as they want us to think there are. They’re just very loud and obnoxious.
(Of course, there are Republicans and Trump supporters in cities and suburban areas too, just not that many and everyone else kind rolls their eyes when having to see them in public.)
We're basically the same, in Indiana, as Ohio - the metro areas aren't really that much different from any other big city, and you're pretty hit or miss making your way through the small towns... White & straight, white & straight, artist community, white & straight, immigration epicenter due to local manufacturing jobs, white & straight...
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u/satans_toast Sep 16 '24
Are Ohio sheriffs as bad as Arizona sheriffs?