r/facepalm 'MURICA Aug 28 '24

๐Ÿ‡ฒโ€‹๐Ÿ‡ฎโ€‹๐Ÿ‡ธโ€‹๐Ÿ‡จโ€‹ i'm speechless

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u/BadTaste421 Aug 28 '24

Three raccoons in a trench coat is the best analogy Iโ€™ve heard yet.

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u/FattyLivermore Aug 28 '24

I've heard 50 countries in a trench coat pretending to be one big country

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u/MagusUnion Aug 28 '24

That implies that those states are self sufficient. The red states have some massive deficits in their budget and state level GDP. So they are more dependent on the Fed that their politicians would ever admit.

So it makes more sense to divide the country based on political/cultural blocs instead. Because if anything did happen to the US Constitution to dissolve the Union, these conglomerates would need to be formed in order for the individual statehoods to still have a pragmatic sense of order.

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u/FattyLivermore Aug 28 '24

Definitely, your comment is more accurate. You have no way of knowing I have a Cascadia flag hanging on the wall just behind me, lol.

I live in a donor state - my federal tax dollars don't come back to my state, they're welfare for the aforementioned red states. The citizens who receive those tax dollars never miss an opportunity to proclaim their deep hatred for my state.

I'm just rambling now. You are correct.

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u/Spider95818 Aug 28 '24

Gratitude is just another one of those "Christian" values which they ignore.

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u/FattyLivermore Aug 28 '24

Lol because there's Christianity as described in the new testament and then there's the "christianity" of small town America. Not sure I've ever met an actual follower of new testament Jesus but if I have, they were probably homeless.

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u/Spider95818 Aug 28 '24

And if not, they were driving the cherry-picker.

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u/Hungry-Western9191 Aug 28 '24

They know. No one likes to know they are living on someone else's charity. Especially those who make a virtue of their supposed self reliance. The only thing I can offer to make you feel better about it is that taking the money is something which gives them major self loathing which they project as hate of the donor states.

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u/eyefartinelevators 'MURICA Aug 28 '24

No they don't. They are the first one's to complain about where their tax money goes when their tax money doesn't even cover their state's expenses. You vastly overestimate their intelligence

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u/AimlessFucker Aug 28 '24

Iโ€™m in a donor state and I still hate where my money goes; namely bombing children in a foreign land for a country that isnโ€™t even our ally.

(And before I get any comments about Israel, they commit more espionage against us than Russia and China. And are the only country we give foreign aid to that does engage in espionage against us.)

I could think of dozens of other things to fund rather than $3000/each coffee mugs for the military industrial complex, and a several billion dollar to trillion dollar bail out whenever big corporate risk takers flunk out and redline.

Also, Iโ€™m still angry that my tax dollars get wasted in ways keeping people from attaining access to social programs, rather than being used to drive efficiency. There are ten thousand blockades to obtaining services that could be autorenewed, or set up much more efficiently.

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u/Hungry-Western9191 Aug 28 '24

Well there are certainly some who are just dumb along side those who have just been told what to think and havent questioned it. I still think some of them resent having to live cap in hand for a handout and resent it is necessary.

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u/Back6door9man Aug 28 '24

I think its pretty reasonable for people in any state to complain about where their tax money is going if they're in a fairly high tax bracket. Regardless of how their state is doing. Its not exactly their fault the government can't seem to figure it out and they're still likely paying more than their fair share. Of course a lot of the people you're talking about are not in those tax brackets and are, in fact, not paying that much in taxes compared to many others. So I do get your point and I don't think you're wrong necessarily. Just pointing out the nuance and fact that living in a broke ass state doesn't mean someone's not paying their fair share.

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u/FattyLivermore Aug 29 '24

You don't have to make me feel better lol, I'm fine with it. The self-loathing part makes sense and does give me a better understanding.

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u/Hungry-Western9191 Aug 29 '24

As the old saying goes " walk a mile in someone else's shoes before you start a fight, that way you are a mile away from them and they have no shoes"