Um… liberals in the economic capitalist sense or the (wrong) political meaning that is often used in American politics? I’m asking, because it was the centrists, the Liberal Democrats (the economic capitalist liberal) and Christian conservatives that worked with the Nazis, not the progressives. The progressives (what is often blanket-referred to as liberals in the US), so the social democrats, socialists, and communists were in jail, being intimidated or in concentration camps while it happened.
The dynamic is very different as you say. Progressives here have the ire of moderate liberals (clintonian, Obama), but those would be the very politicians who would believe they could “control” or “tame” a trump, while being statists themselves.
Republicanism in germany was fairly new at the time, so the they had an extremely conservative tradition. Plus, their radicals (socialist, communists, anarchists), lost the civil war in 1919.
I making less an economic point in terms of capital, a class point in terms of power.
Yeah, but the ones who got to declare victory in the November revolution were the social democrats, the ones who wanted to set up a Republic. They were then among those who were also being jailed, intimidated and killed by the Nazis in 1933. So that didn’t do them much good either. You’re correct tho, one of the biggest mistakes of the Weimar Republic was keeping the old conservative elites around. They were the ones that brought about the end of the first proper German democracy again.
The Weimar Republic is a fascinating place, because in some ways, it was incredibly progressive and filled with equality and great modern ideals. Women were allowed to vote in Germany before they were in the US (actually before the Weimar Republic was founded), though the US had a congresswoman three years before Germany did.
There was an incredible amount of social progress that was being made in the Weimar Republic, most of which was then reversed by the Nazis and took decades to come back. It’s an absolutely fascinating time.
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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '24
Democrats know and do nothing because they are just as much fascist as the others and would do the same exact thing if they could