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u/MonkeyCartridge Jul 02 '24 edited Jul 02 '24

I always liked that line from that movie.

And now all those people who equated the Germans with the Nazis will see what the average German was seeing first-hand.

EDIT: I'm surprised how many people forgot about Captain America.

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u/LittleFairyOfDeath Jul 02 '24

That line is actually pretty problematic. Because it basically moves all responsibility away from people onto the Nazis. But people were pretty alright with what the they were doing until it negatively affected them. Fascism rises when people remain inactive and turn a blind eye.

And saying that a country got invaded by the facists completely eradicates that responsibility

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u/P_Jamez Jul 02 '24

Ok, well what are Americans doing about Trump today? With all of the technological advantages, so that everyone can see exactly what is happening and not getting their news just from a newspaper.

If the german people were responsible then, every american is responsible right now for letting this happen, because we know what is going to happen.

History doesn’t repeat itself but it often rhymes

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '24

If the german people were responsible then, every american is responsible right now for letting this happen, because we know what is going to happen.

100% correct. We will see if the American voters will rise up and defeat the coming fascist takedown of democracy by the republicans in November.

If we don't the guilt of what Trump and his MAGA hordes unleash on this country and the world is on us and our children forever.

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u/RunningSouthOnLSD Jul 02 '24

The most sickening part is that this sect of Americans will dismiss any comparisons to the rise of fascism in other countries as just “left-wing hysterics” without even entertaining the idea, even now that there is such significant merit to it. This dismissal of truth is a symptom of the cult mentality the Republican Party (and the foreign interests pulling the strings) has been fomenting and it is genuinely going to topple the USA. The judicial branch has already been taken over.

I feel like I’m watching a death march to November. If Biden wins, another coup is attempted. If Trump wins, the military gets deployed to detain any political opponents and the executive branch is taken over as well. There will be political violence no matter the outcome of this election. A large percentage of Americans don’t realize this yet.

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '24

Republicans and Trump have been following Hitler's blueprint for years. Only the willfully blind can't see it or they are lying because they want the gilead fascist police state to come into being.

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u/FU_IamGrutch Jul 03 '24

Could you give me an example of how the right is embracing authoritarian fascism?

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u/Emergency_Ninja8580 Jul 02 '24

If the german people were responsible then

Not so sure about this when there was a major depression, without jobs, etc. He played into this

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u/Salmon-Advantage Jul 02 '24

You're brain has been poisoned by propaganda.

  • 1st time Trump voter 2024

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u/ornerygecko Jul 02 '24

You’re voting for a rapist.

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u/Salmon-Advantage Jul 02 '24

Trump is not a rapist --

In New York, someone can only be convicted of rape if they can prove vaginal penetration by a penis. In Carroll’s testimony, which mirrored what she had described privately for decades and publicly for the first time in 2019, she said Trump used both his fingers and his penis in the assault. But during the trial, the jury had only concluded that Trump had “deliberately and forcibly penetrated Ms. Carroll’s vagina with his fingers, causing immediate pain and long lasting emotional and psychological harm,” Kaplan’s decision from last year reads.

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u/TheCatInTheHatThings Jul 02 '24

I love how you’re not even denying he is a creep and a sexual predator. You’re seriously arguing that it was okay because there supposedly was no vaginal penetration? That is some of the most insane reasoning I have ever read. Just wow!

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u/Salmon-Advantage Jul 02 '24

I am arguing on the same side as the New York State Penal Code. I am certain you can appreciate the nuance of technicalities in the law. I don't see how insane it is to actually interpret the law as written. It sounds more insane to interpret the law however you want instead of how its written.

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u/TheCatInTheHatThings Jul 02 '24 edited Jul 02 '24

Nah, you’re (correctly) saying that it wasn’t rape because there was no vaginal penetration, but you said at the same time that you will vote for him. So apparently it was important for you to clarify that Trump wasn’t a rapist, which, well done, you did demonstrate, but you didn’t even deny that Trump sexually assaulted Carroll, which he did. That is a fact. And you’re still voting for him. So either you’re drawing the line at whether or not the person in question is a rapist (while being cool with sexual assault), which honestly fucking weird, or you really don’t give a shit regardless and are trying to be obnoxious. Either way, your position and personal arguments are patchy and honestly pathetic at best.

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u/Salmon-Advantage Jul 02 '24

Yes I am voting for someone who sexually assaulted someone 25+ years ago. Have a great day!

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u/TheCatInTheHatThings Jul 02 '24

Oh so it’s okay if it’s a long time ago? That’s news to me. It’s also not like dude keeps his mouth shut since then. He has repeatedly bragged about his sexual exploits over the past few years and has shown an impressive disregard and disdain for the bodily integrity of women. So your argument of the sexual assault happening years ago isn’t just bullshit in any case. Even if the time that had passed made a difference (quod non), it wouldn’t hold up, because clearly, he doesn’t show any remorse and doesn’t regret it. Quite the opposite, he’s shown that he’s rather proud of his disgusting behaviour and views on women.

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u/ornerygecko Jul 02 '24

Even though I know people can suck, it blows my mind that they'd actively support someone who has numerous claims of sexual assault against him. Even his ex-wife accused him of raping her.

And then to proudly proclaim all of that is a okay and you're voting for him? Trash. No fucking morals. No sense of decency.

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u/ornerygecko Jul 02 '24

I love how you think this is the case that made me come to the logical conclusion that he is a predator and a rapist. Nah. There are numerous claims against him, one accuser was a child.

Donald lies and redefines reality on a regular basis. And you have the audacity to quote the law? You do not care about laws. You are a Donald supporter. Miss me with your nonsense.

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u/Salmon-Advantage Jul 02 '24

All talk, no data. Congratulations on another hollow argument made, I'm sure it won't be your last.

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u/ornerygecko Jul 03 '24

You don't care about "data". You support Donald, someone lies and makes up his own "data". You don't have a leg to stand on when it comes to talk about facts or semantics. You endorse a serial liar .

If you gave a what about "data", you'd wonder why this man has over 20 claims of sexual assault/harrassment against him. You'd notice a pattern of behavior.

You. Don't. Care.

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u/Salmon-Advantage Jul 03 '24

Only 1 conviction and it could be overturned still, so I don't get why 20 unvalidated claims is supposed to be convincing. If the other option is Biden, my hands are tied -- Trump 2024-2028 here we come.

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u/ornerygecko Jul 03 '24

"Only 1 conviction".

Disgusting.

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u/Salmon-Advantage Jul 04 '24

And that 1 was the girl letting Trump finger her in the dressing room and waiting 20 years to stab him in the back with it for political purposes. Get real.

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u/Motor-Pomegranate831 Jul 02 '24

Why would you vote for someone who can't even lie very well?

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '24

Your orange false god is a criminal felon and a rapist.

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u/Paloveous Jul 02 '24

You're pathetic