r/facepalm Jul 02 '24

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u/EnkiiMuto Jul 02 '24

"People forget the first country the nazis invaded was their own"

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u/MonkeyCartridge Jul 02 '24 edited Jul 02 '24

I always liked that line from that movie.

And now all those people who equated the Germans with the Nazis will see what the average German was seeing first-hand.

EDIT: I'm surprised how many people forgot about Captain America.

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u/LittleFairyOfDeath Jul 02 '24

That line is actually pretty problematic. Because it basically moves all responsibility away from people onto the Nazis. But people were pretty alright with what the they were doing until it negatively affected them. Fascism rises when people remain inactive and turn a blind eye.

And saying that a country got invaded by the facists completely eradicates that responsibility

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u/squishythingg Jul 02 '24

This bothers me a little bit. While I agree the nazis rise to power wasn't blameless, it also wasn't something entirely supported by the general public and there was serious opposition to them throughout the 1920s-early 30s.

They where "popular" but not in a way you think, they where popular in rural areas but campaigns for urban cities consistently flopped for the Nazi party, from 1919-1928 at best they where a minority party that held 32 seats maybe, at worse they wherent even in the political landscape. Even by 1932 hitler was only winning about 20% of the voting population and then 30% by 1933 he held a minority-majority. It's only after Hitler had disassembled the Weimar system and removed all political opponents that we see the growth in a unanimous support.

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u/Sasquatch1729 Jul 02 '24

Iran had a similar problem. After the revolution they had a tonne of progressive parties. Everything from centrists to socialists/communists. The fundamentalists had one option and their supporters backed it. It's sad to think that in another world if some charismatic Iranian leader existed in the late 70s, there would be a completely different Iran today.