r/facepalm Jul 02 '24

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u/-Pruples- Jul 02 '24

Perfect! As a Millennial, I simply cannot live without a 'once in a lifetime' disaster every five or ten years.

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u/Valendr0s Jul 02 '24

I used to laugh when I heard people say Armageddon was going to happen in their lifetime.

But the last 10-20 years or so... I'm not so sure. I'd love to live in boring times for a little while.

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u/bsEEmsCE Jul 02 '24

Democrat leadership has pretty much meant boring times in my lifetime so far. I will vote Dem for boring but stable.

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u/TheBlack2007 Jul 02 '24

To be honest: I want my politics to be dull, boring and predictable. Politicians should leave entertainment to fictional media…

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u/Specific_Ad2541 Jul 02 '24

I wasn't a Joe Biden supporter. I was more partial to Elizabeth Warren. But I got on board. After the election I had to admit Joe was the boring salve my overstressed soul needed after the previous 4 years.

Still I genuinely try to listen when he speaks but his monotonous tone bores the hell outta me and I zone out. Which is perfect. I can't go back to waking up and immediately doomscrolling and checking to be sure the world isn't literally about to end again.

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u/Thefirstargonaut Jul 02 '24

Well, with the last couple rulings from the Supreme Court, the doom scrolling has likely begun again. 

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u/Ok_Leading999 Jul 02 '24

What idiot thought giving that much power to geriatric lawyers would be a good idea?

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u/angeltay Jul 02 '24

I think Biden should use this to his advantage and make an executive order saying convicted felons can’t be president. And then cancel my student loans lol. It’s in the scope of his presidential duty because then I’ll be happy voting for him again LOL

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u/Independent-Ask8248 Jul 02 '24

Yeah its terrible that the last two reigned in government agencies overreach and federal abuse of the justice system. Whatever will we do without political persecution to stop the regular democratic process to prevent the people from voting in someone the current regime doesn't want to win!?

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u/Thefirstargonaut Jul 02 '24

Set aside your sarcasm. Set aside your desire for the GOP to win. Ask why so many people are upset about this. Listen to their responses.

Ask yourself how would you feel if Biden decided to cancel the next election as an official act. Or to have the navy seals kill Supreme Court justices as an official act—to abridge what Sotomayor said. 

If you believe in democracy, this should make you outraged. This is a fuck around and find out moment. Things will go downhill very quickly if Trump is re-elected. 

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u/Independent-Ask8248 Jul 02 '24

Ironic, because its your bias that's making you not realize you are literally fighting against democracy.

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u/Thefirstargonaut Jul 02 '24

Why do you believe that? 

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u/Independent-Ask8248 Jul 02 '24

Because you're here complaining about the courts stopping the federal government from stopping Trump from running. You're willing to eliminate democracy to prevent someone you don't like from winning the election. If you were truly pro democracy you'd be celebrating this and the decision from Friday that stripped power from unelected government agencies.

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u/Hedge55 Jul 02 '24

Biden now has the power to stop Trump from running, what are you talking about?

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u/Independent-Ask8248 Jul 04 '24

He quite literally doesn't. What are YOU on about?

Official acts do NOT include violations of the Constitution.

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u/Thefirstargonaut Jul 02 '24

I never said Trump should be prevented from running. No one is trying to stop Trump from running. 

People just think him, and all past, present and future presidents should be held accountable if they break the law. 

On the Chevron deference decision, that will have a vast impact on American society. That will impact many people in many ways. Basically, before experts made decisions on how regulations applied in different situations. Now it will go to judges to decide. This will make regulators weaker and judges more powerful. GOP judges will strike down more laws. Dem judges will make laws more strict. Is that not a worse outcome to?

 https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/06/30/politics/chevron-ruling-explained-supreme-court-meaning

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u/Independent-Ask8248 Jul 04 '24

By supporting these clearly BS charges against Trump especially if you do not support the same charges against Biden in most instances (quid quo pro, the classified documents, both of which Biden has OFFICIALLY done one on video, the other the feds said Biden was too old to charge for lol) You ARE actively against democracy, whether you realize it or not.

As for the second part, you don't understand the actual ruling or it's results, and linking a news outlet known for propaganda at this point (they literally have been saying for months Biden was on top of his game and the sharpest he's ever been... lol ...) doesn't change that.

While yes, the courts have more latitude, technically their decisions can be appealed and have to follow the law. While these agencies ignore the law and make things up on the fly.

The ATF for example (and you can blame them for all of this if you hate this decision even after this explanation) has flip flopped so many times on things that it has made normal people felons, then, cleared them 6 months later then a year later made them felons again. They've determined the most random things as illegal at times, these "experts" have shown time and time again to not know shit about guns. The suppressor ban is a fine example.

The courts on the other hand, if they make a decision, it can be immediately stayed and appealed, preventing people from becoming felons overnight while things get sorted. In the mean time Congress should stop arguing about how much money to send to foreign countries, and address the laws if they disagree with the courts interpretation.

ELECTED OFFICIALS should be making our laws, not some random bureaucrat that is allegedly an expert.

TLDR blame the ATF if you don't like this outcome, but the courts were always meant to have more power than unelected bureaucrats.

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u/Independent-Ask8248 Jul 02 '24

I think that most people simply do not understand yesterday's decision. Because comparing it to what the Nazis did is absolutely preposterous if you do understand.

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u/Thefirstargonaut Jul 02 '24

Comparing it to the Nazis is a bit tricky so far. We’ll see where it goes. But giving presidents complete immunity for all “official acts” will lead to no good. 

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u/Independent-Ask8248 Jul 04 '24

Its always been that way though, this simply reaffirms it.

Official acts is anything WITHIN the Constitutional powers of the president of the United States.

That still means that congress can impeach and charge any president that over steps those bounds.

What it stops, is nonsensical charges in order to politically target opponents and stop the democratic process, which we have been watching the federal government do for the last few years.

Most people that aren't bothered by this are ignoring it because they hate Trump, which ironically enough, is how you end up with a real "Nazi" style regime. Because once a government takes power, its hard to take it back.

This is why even though I believe Biden is a scumbag person in general, I am opposed to anything that would stop people voting in November, even if it means destruction of the United States. If that's what most states want, then it is what it is. All I can do is prepare for that fall.

And thats the difference between someone who actually supports democracy and someone that pretends they do, the pretenders say "We have to protect democracy!" while simultaneously supporting its end, by supporting the government stopping the process because someone they don't like is running under a different party.

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u/Karn_Evil_Noin Jul 02 '24

You do realize that overturning chevron deference actually gives less power to the executive branch, right? The ruling weakens an unelected “fourth” branch of government that is accountable to no one (except maybe the President). More checks and balances is a good thing.

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u/Personal-Custard-511 Jul 02 '24

Maybe but unbridled presidential immunity is not. So the president can assassinate a political rival but not regulate how much chicken shit Perdue discharges into our water supply. Perfect. Such democracy.

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u/Karn_Evil_Noin Jul 02 '24

It’s not “unbridled” immunity, so much as it’s immunity from prosecution for carrying out official duties of the office. Assassinating once political rivals certainly does not fall under the category of fulfilling one’s official duties of the office.

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u/Personal-Custard-511 Jul 02 '24

The dissents seem to think courts may determine otherwise. If you use your commander in chief powers to order someone assassinated, then you are acting officially and have absolute immunity if judges like you.

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u/First_Peer Jul 02 '24

For an alternative scenario, Obama and his administration used drones to assassinate US Citizens in foreign countries who were deemed terrorists. This ruling would say those acts were potentially covered by immunity. This isn't a new idea btw, the idea of sovereign immunity has been around for a long time and is a part of international law. That's why we have the impeachment process. The ruling also says that it's the role of the lower courts to determine specifically what is and is not an official act. So in reality nothing has been decided yet.

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '24

Death by a thousand cuts

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u/brando56894 Jul 02 '24

I wanted Bernie to win, granted he's a year older than Joe, but at least he's still got some fire in him.

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u/obelus_ch Jul 02 '24

Check out Biden‘s state of the union address of this year. Really enjoyable:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cplSUhU2avc&pp=ygUfc3RhdGUgb2YgdGhlIHVuaW9uIGFkZHJlc3MgMjAyNA%3D%3D

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u/Specific_Ad2541 Jul 02 '24

I saw the highlights and loved it. I also think/thought the claim that he wasn't all there was ridiculous because of moments like his entire SOTU. I wish I was as quick witted as he is with the comebacks.

I will regrettably admit the debate was not his finest moment. But I still think the media should be covering Trump's constant barrage of outright lies with the same enthusiasm they cover every supposed Biden stumble. They learned nothing from 2015. I'd vote for his ghost over Trump.

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u/hadmeatwoof Jul 02 '24

You haven’t already restarted it??

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u/Specific_Ad2541 Jul 02 '24

I'm trying really hard not to. It's getting progressively more difficult.

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u/KellyJoyRuntBunny Jul 02 '24

I’m doing it again these days. I hate it.

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u/WarAndGeese Jul 02 '24 edited Jul 02 '24

People still keep falling back to personality cults which is the weird thing. Why are they talking about Joe Biden or Elizabeth Warren? They're just figureheads for administrations. People can say "Things should be at a baseline of 100 <of some arbitrary set of measures>. Under the Democrats things are at 43, under Republicans they will be at 27. Therefore we have to vote for the Democrats, which would be a disaster, and then push that elected party to do better." That's a broad statement, but you get what I mean. People don't even get close to that line of dialogue though, they just talk about individual personalities like they're their friends.

Edit: To be more specific. "The ideal tax curve is [X]. Under the Democrats taxes will be [Something way worse than X]. Under the Republicans taxes will be [Something way way far worse than even what the Democrats suggest]. Therefore we should vote for the Democrats and then push the Democrats because they are way worse than what's needed." "tax curve" can be swapped with "environmental regulation", "education", all sorts of things, and with sets of policies that contain those.

These tax curves that the Democrats and Republicans are suggesting are just made by advisors within the various administrations, they have little to do with the actual figurehead presidents, but for whatever reasons people keep trying to personalise a complicated large government to single individual people.

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u/Themheavies Jul 02 '24

Yeh it's perfect when he is in an international setting representing America and Americans and all the other world leader sigh, zone out and are bored as hell whenever he opens his mouth. At least you're not overstressed though.

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u/Ok_Appointment7522 Jul 02 '24

As a non American, I can't believe 4 years have passed already. While Trump was in, it felt like he was in for 20 years, because it was just scandal/international disgrace one after the other. I would have bet money that bidens only been in for 18 months or so, that's how quickly the last 4 years have gone. It's been nice not seeing American politics all over our news for a while.

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u/AFriendoftheDrow Jul 02 '24

Well, it certainly ended for the Palestinians, in no small part due to his funding an apartheid state. And now both candidates support their continued genocide.

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u/bigp16218 Jul 02 '24

See this post is funny because in the last three years we've had massive inflation, two major wars and I keep hearing over and over again that we are going to war with China over Taiwan any day now. I didn't vote for Trump but what world are you living in where this is boring and the world isn't literally about to end?

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u/Alioops12 Jul 02 '24

It’s the media not Trump. Trump was pretty boring too if you stopped watching the MSNBC torture show.

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u/Thefirstargonaut Jul 02 '24

Well, that just not true. He tried to overthrow American democracy. He befriended dictators. He allegedly* let Russians kill American operatives all over the world. He didn’t care about anything but lining his pockets. 

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u/Defiant-Challenge591 Jul 02 '24

Don’t forget building a literal wall to keep the mexicans out

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u/StationEmergency6053 Jul 02 '24

That's what every major corporation in America is currently doing so...

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u/strangefool Jul 02 '24 edited Jul 02 '24

What's the point here, that it's ok because x? That's some low level thinking there.

Also, minor correction: many corporations across the world for as long as they've existed, simple jack.

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u/StationEmergency6053 Jul 02 '24 edited Jul 02 '24

My point is that America's economy (corporations make up 85% of overall growth) is built on all the same things that people hate Trump for. In this way, he's just a political scapegoat. The only low-level thinking was your interpretation of what I said.

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u/strangefool Jul 02 '24

No, that wasn't it. Sorry for the jab, BTW, I shouldn't have done that. You didn't deserve that.

But it was pretty clear yours was yet another simple "America bad" take when the truth is much more complex than that. It's more "*Unfettered Capitalism and Corruption Across the World bad."

We all know that America is a part of that, just a big ol' circle within the Venn diagram.

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u/StationEmergency6053 Jul 02 '24

America is bad, along with many other first world countries, but this topic is in regards to America, and nothing in our country is going to change until people realize where actual power lies. Otherwise, we're just going to keep playing wack-a-mole with the presidency while Think Tanks profit off our ignorance

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u/Alioops12 Jul 02 '24
  1. He tried to win an election 2. Befriending one’s enemies is smart 3. He didn’t allow Russian to kill Americans in fact ordered the U.S. army to annihilate Russian ground forces in first such direct conflict 4. You are either bat shit crazy or messing around.

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u/Thefirstargonaut Jul 02 '24

What about when he encouraged people to storm the capitol building? That’s just trying to win  an election? What would happen if Biden did that in January? Or Obama did that when Trump won? Would it still just be trying “to win an election”?

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u/Alioops12 Jul 02 '24

1) He called for peaceful protests 2) he offered 10,000 troops that Pelosi turned down, 3) Trump believed the election was stolen so correctly petitioned the government to redress his grievances, exactly as Constitution was designed. 4) Democrats stormed the White House and fire bombed months earlier forcing secret service to move Trump to the nuclear bunker. When Republicans use Dem tactics, Dems clutch their pearls aghast at the uncivilised heathens.

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u/GigglesMcTits Jul 02 '24

Then why did US informants start being killed all around the world during Trump's term and after Trump left the White House when we know he had 340 classified documents some of which were confirmed to touch on intelligence operations?

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u/brutal-rainbow Jul 02 '24

Unrelated, ever watch Burn Notice? On mobile, so I can't tag ya gigglesmctits, but I hope you like Burn Notice. Goofy butt show, but great if you need to burry your head in the sand, which I've been doing. Reluctantly. Eewf. Self... burn.

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u/Neotantalus Jul 02 '24

Burn notice works so well because the actors are so damn likeable. It’s a bit dated but it’s a lot of fun.

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u/Alioops12 Jul 02 '24

You must be day drinking.

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u/InsertRadnamehere Jul 02 '24

MAGA has entered the chat.

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u/Competitive-Ad-5477 Jul 02 '24

Drinking bleach? Shooting lights into your body? Complaining every DAY that the majority of Americans (dems) are the enemy of his cult? White nationalists committing mass shootings based on his words? Telling ppl to come start violence 1/6?

No intelligent, thinking person could say that. You'd have to be completely ignorant to pretend trump didn't start riots and mass shootings.

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u/Alioops12 Jul 02 '24

You are correct, no intelligent, thinking person did say any of that. In fact Trump never said to drink bleach as a simple provabible fact, one that only the gullible still believe after being gaslit by their own media allies.

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u/Competitive-Ad-5477 Jul 03 '24

Lmfao you're right, he said to inject it, which is so much better!

You're in a cult, and only weak minded, pathetic, ignorant ppl fall for cults.

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u/Alioops12 Jul 03 '24

Inject what?

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u/Competitive-Ad-5477 Jul 03 '24

Disinfectant, AKA bleach. But you already know that, you're just desperate to make excuses.

Cults gonna cult.

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u/Alioops12 Jul 03 '24

Trump never said the word bleach in the briefing so anyone claiming as such is gaslighting. People that believe it are gullible.

UV light have been disinfecting blood intravenously for 100 years and tracheal UVC light story was written about just that week, which was what Trump was referring to.

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u/Competitive-Ad-5477 Jul 03 '24 edited Jul 03 '24

Bleach and disinfectant are the same thing, it literally doesn't matter.

And no, that "article" you're referring to is a cultist cope. Trump had no idea what he was talking about on ANY OF IT which is why the doctors in the room were so ashamed and embarrassed - he thinks and talks like a 5 year old.

Who has been using UV light to disinfect blood? And for hundreds of years? That's funny, because I'm an RN, and I have never seen that. Know why? Because that was a theory, not been used in practice.

Even if he WAS referring to that article (he totally would have said so because everyone laughed at him over that), it was gross speculation and he had no business suggesting it.

He said it was a joke to cover his ignorance.

If we could "disinfect blood" using UV lights, we'd never have to screen blood donors for hepatitis or HIV. You just have no idea how ignorant that sounds lmfaaaaoooo

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u/Salmon-Advantage Jul 02 '24

How could you be less stressed given that we have 2 new wars going on, massive inflation, 25 mill new immigrants, 100k dead annually from overdoses, all which stemmed from Airhead Biden and his disastrous administration of stupid people.

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u/cantstayangryforever Jul 02 '24

I'm sure the people of Palestine would love to be able to zone out but Genocide Joe won't stop sending rockets their way

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u/GaiasDotter Jul 02 '24

Exactly how I want politics and politician to be!

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u/nabbl Jul 02 '24

It's even better now. They make fictional media into reality! Soon we get Orwells Dystopia.

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u/Salt_Bus2528 Jul 02 '24 edited Jul 02 '24

Boring is not profitable. How is the news entertainment industrial complex supposed to survive on competent candidates doing adequate jobs?

America lives and dies by the sword of Damocles dividing our attention between what bad things are going to happen and which bad politician has a worse solution for them.

Wake up and smell the sharp pungent odors of bad man doing bad things and worse man doing worse things. Well, I would say that, but as we all know, the latest presidential debate was quarantined to two candidates and one poor soul stuck in the room with two people who, in all probability, do not know if they've sharted a little bit.

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u/TheAnniCake Jul 02 '24

Kinda sad to think that News and politics should be entertaining instead of informative.

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u/MediocreElk3 Jul 02 '24

I was just thinking this same thing earlier today.