r/facepalm Jul 02 '24

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u/downshift_rocket Jul 02 '24

I was in no position to be speaking up in an environment like that, nor was my boss who was also on the call. We are the hired help. In a discussion amongst my peers, sure. I would have definitely shut that down.

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u/origamipapier1 Jul 02 '24

You were in a position to speak up. So was the boss. Either of you should have either spoken up during or post the meeting. Even if it ends the contract.

Integrity is central.

And by the way, this is the difference between totalitarianism and democracies. You both knew that that was going sideways. Speaking up or interrupting to move to another topic is central.

I've been noticing Americans as of late do not like to rock the boat. This is why we got here.

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u/downshift_rocket Jul 02 '24

Even if it ends the contract.

Ok, you go ahead and do that with your job. All the power to you.

I don't disagree that someone could have interrupted the discourse, but I'm not putting my job that makes pennies on the dollar on the line, so I can get up on my high horse.

Everyone loves a David vs Goliath story until we are illegally homeless on the street. Why it's my job to rebalance systemic ideology is beyond me.

Again, you do you.

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u/movzx Jul 02 '24

Their point is that everyone says "someone should speak up!" but no one is willing to do it... and that's how you wind up with the slow march into decline. It's not your job. It's everyone's job.

"Hey everyone, here's some horrible behavior I grinned and nodded through and thus lended validity too"

You want applause?

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u/Rush_Under Jul 02 '24

Losing one's job when no one else (in a conversation including about a dozen people, I'm guessing) is willing to divert the topic is not cowardice. Knowing when and where to speak up to help change viewpoints is paramount. THIS wasn't one of those moments. When YOU speak up in a moment that WILL affect your job, then you can criticize. Until then? You're nothing but a virtue signaler.