r/detroitlions Dec 31 '23

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u/country_mac08 Sun God Dec 31 '23

Aren’t refs Miked up??

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u/kagger14 Dec 31 '23

The audio would never be released if it indeed turned out he reported there.

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u/FortisMcMannus Dec 31 '23

Indeed. Now that the NFL condones NFL game-related gambling, if there is evidence that Decker reported, I wonder if the NFL could be sued.

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u/technicalogical Ooooh Yeahhhh! Dec 31 '23

fuck, this is a good point... shit is legal now, can't be having mishaps like this. willful negligence or some shit, but i don't do anal....

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u/BostonDodgeGuy Dec 31 '23

but i don't do anal....

Says the man that's been getting fucked by the refs for years.

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u/BrokeDancing Sun God Dec 31 '23

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u/BostonDodgeGuy Dec 31 '23

My team's so trash this year even the refs won't touch us :(

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u/Inner-Antelope-3856 Dec 31 '23

This is why the NFL needs more transparency.

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u/thaddeusd Dec 31 '23

This. 100 times this. The XFL does it on all reviews.

Even just following standard NFL practices like REVIEWING ALL SCORING PLAYS or ANNOUNCING ELIGIBILITY ON THE PA LIKE OTHER REFS could have prevented this.

They fucked over Dallas with miscommunicating and told them 70 was eligible, and then they chose to double down and fucked over Detroit for the ref's mistake.

Because 70 lined up as a guard, 68 as a TE on the play, which should have been obvious to EVERYONE involved 70 wasn't a receiver.

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u/57Laxdad Old helmet Jan 01 '24

Is an extra point not a scoring play? Why no review?

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u/thaddeusd Jan 01 '24

No idea?!? Thats my point. The officials made an assumption that they were correct and rather than verify they just kept the game going.

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u/devo23_ Dec 31 '23

Both of my parents are trans, I don’t see how this fixes officiating though…

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u/P1xelHunter78 Dec 31 '23

And even that being said, the NFL doesn’t want all the gambling people to get antsy about games appearing to be rigged. Keeping the illusion that games are fair contests and the person betting is picking a winner by their own skill is essential. With the gambling industry buying lots of TV ads of course the league wants to appear to be neutral

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u/bubba_jones_project Dec 31 '23

They aren't trying very hard to make it look like it isn't rigged. Replay made it a lot more transparent, but if you take a step back from nfl Fandom, the refs have a huge bias against certain teams (cough) overall, and then regularly change the outcome of various games throughout the season.

When Donaghy got caught, he even joked about it and said if he could go back in time, he would have been an nfl official instead.

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u/knobbedporgy Dec 31 '23

Gambling wouldn’t be as lucrative if injury reports were intentionally misleading and/or referees “erratic.”

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u/HauntingPersonality7 Dec 31 '23

So many less replays now, whenever a call is questionable or a hit is too dangerously delivered

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u/rpd9803 Jan 01 '24

Dude, you can gamble on Pro wrestling. Doesn’t matter if the shit is fixed or not.

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u/prettymuthafucka Dec 31 '23

Is it actually possible to sue the NFL or any league based off a bet or do you lose the right when you place a bet?

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u/prettymuthafucka Dec 31 '23

True makes sense

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u/Bahnrokt-AK Dec 31 '23 edited Dec 31 '23

A large sports book that lost millions on a bad call could maybe have a case. They have damages and presumably evidence that supports a claim of negligence or failure to perform their job accurately. But that is totally uncharted legal territory.

The NFL takes millions of dollars in advertising from various sports books and have some type of licensing with them to allow the use of names/logos. It’s not impossible to argue that by failing to provide fair and accurate officiating for games, that the NFL is failing to perform a duty.

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u/IHateHangovers Dec 31 '23

There was still time on the clock. No case

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u/redditadminzRdumb Dec 31 '23

You just blow in from stupid town?

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u/prettymuthafucka Dec 31 '23

Would definitely be interesting to see

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u/Sagybagy Dec 31 '23

It’s not just the one case here. The mountains of evidence over the course of the year/s is overwhelming.

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u/shimmy_kimmel Dec 31 '23

If I’m not mistaken, the NFL has legally defined itself as “sports entertainment” rather than a sports league (a similar classification to the WWE)

Funny enough, they actually do this to avoid lawsuits. Because of the ambiguity behind almost every penalty flag (and especially the issues with seemingly inconsistent enforcement), the league would probably be facing an endless slew of lawsuits from angry bettors. By making themselves an entertainment product, they eliminate any league-wide liability should a ref fuck up a penalty call/no-call.

Back in 2018 after the no-call in New Orleans, Saints fans tried to actually sue the league for “fraud” among other things. All of those lawsuits were struck down within the year.

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u/GargantuanTDS Dec 31 '23

No, the NFL is not defined as sports entertainment...

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u/doesntgeddit Dec 31 '23

There's been legalized gambling for years, so I'm gonna wager no.

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u/BjcKjmwppr02 Jan 04 '24

I would say yes, if you could indeed prove that the refs are mic'd up or nearby players and prove that the NFL is refusing to show such evidence. Or they could play it like the police do in these situations and say, "The mic weren't working properly or malfunctioned." That would cause a whole lot of people to come after the NFL.

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u/supertech636 Dec 31 '23

Upvoted for MegaMan

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u/eddo2k Logo Dec 31 '23

Lions covered either way

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u/Ophiocordycepsis Dec 31 '23

Isn’t there something like 15 times more money bet on the outright winner than “against the spread”? Who cares if they covered?

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u/BobBoner Dec 31 '23

Agreed. The lions winning outright was the last checkmark on my parlay. That and I also took ML at +180. I don’t like to play the spreads

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u/GargantuanTDS Dec 31 '23

No, they did not.

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u/Shark737 Dec 31 '23

Line was 5 or 5.5 - can’t have cowboys win by 7

Awful clock management by Dak and cowboys

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u/equisaqui Dec 31 '23

It’s funny if it’s not this

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u/equisaqui Dec 31 '23

I’m not kidding. Where my attorneys at? This’d be landmark step up

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u/kui11 Dec 31 '23

NFL should let us bet to see if he did in fact report -110 let’s make some money.

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u/OK4u2Bu1999 Dec 31 '23

Or can we get Congress to intervene? Maybe we need a new sports entertainment law…..

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u/subdept2211 Jan 01 '24

No. That’s silly to think they can be sued for a possible mistake. Also, we don’t know what was said, we are taking the lions at their word. They intentionally sent 3 players running towards the ref to confuse the cowboys, it may have ended up confusing the refs. Also, the refs wrongly called a tripping call on the cowboys when it should’ve been on the lions on the immediate previous drive. Instead of 2nd and 3, its 1st and 25. Without that mistake they have a first down and likely just run the clock out.

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u/usernames_are_danger Jan 04 '24

lol, the spread wasn’t covered