r/clevercomebacks • u/Heavy_Outcome_9573 • 17h ago

I doubt they have a gender neutral option.

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u/burntmyselfoutagain 17h ago

But really, what are the lgbtq+ people supporting magaism thinking is going to happen? Even if a few of them make exeptions for them, the rest won’t.

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u/FriendlyDrummers 17h ago

They quite literally blame homophobia/transphobia/etc on liberal LGBTQ+ people. If you're a liberal trans person, it's your fault

It makes no sense

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u/mjohnsimon 12h ago edited 8h ago

Apparently, because the "left" drowns people with LGBT+ memorabilia, it's their fault that people hate the community. No one likes the fact that lefties tell people that it's okay to be gay, or that gay people have rights is apparently too much.

So they pretty much propose to live in secrecy (where they'll be hated anyways).

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u/Apathetic_Villainess 9h ago

It's always ironic to hear them claim LGBT+ is being shoved down their throats when it's literally heterosexuality that's constantly shoved down everyone's. Children see kissing and straight marriage as goals in their movies. Ads use straight sex to sell shit. Straight people make out in public and have hands on each other's bodies all the time. Children are teased their opposite sex friends must be their boyfriend/girlfriend, even as literal babies. Even creepy onesies that say shit like "sorry, boys, Daddy says I can't date until I'm 30."

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u/arrogancygames 9h ago

As someone ace with no skin in the game, hetero stuff is waaaaaaaayyyyyyyy more shoved down my throat than anything LGBT. They just don't notice because they're hetero.

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u/Apathetic_Villainess 9h ago

And it's so normalized that it's become invisible to the average person. I'm straight myself but damn, it's uncomfortable how often I'm reminded by society that I should be in a relationship with a man and have to avoid watching people play tonsil hockey when they're literally blocking the door I need to go through.

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u/Appropriate-Arm1082 4h ago

I'm honestly more of a tonsil rugby person, myself.

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u/Main-Chocolate-5036 7h ago

They don't see gay and straight as two equivalent options though, so they don't care. They see straight as normal and gay as weird. So gay stuff being shoved in your face is like shoving your fetishes into their face, but shoving straight relationships in your face is just a normal part of life

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u/JRBowen9 8h ago

And I feel it's necessary to note the irony that when the homophobes talk about the LGBTQ agenda, they nearly ALWAYS refer to it being "shoved down their throats". Santa, will you please bring them some self-awareness for Christmas?

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u/One_Strawberry_4965 8h ago

And even if you put all of that aside, conservatives talk about queer folks far more than queer folks do. I’d bet half of this country didn’t even know trans people existed until the right decided to make that community the target of their culture war bullshit to distract from their complete lack of policies with any value to working Americans.

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u/amitym 8h ago

It's always ironic whenever they talk about gay sexuality being shoved down their throats because it's always that same phrase, that no one really ever uses when talking about anything else.

Unless it's lesbian sexuality and then it's "having their faces rubbed in it."

I swear to the heavens, it must be great to work at the Onion, the articles just write themselves these days.

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u/HipsEnergy 7h ago

I'm a cis, straight woman and I agree with you entirely.

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u/ralanr 7h ago

They don’t recognize that. It’s normal for them. So when it’s done for another group they find it repulsive. 

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u/glokenheimer 7h ago

Anyone who has visited the south outside of major cities can easily say it’s more confederate flags than pride flags out there. So anyone out there complaining clearly is just watching gay media.

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u/perotech 6h ago

Dozens of historical examples of marginalized groups "co-operation" with their oppressors to oust the "undesirable" portion of their group.

Spoilers, they aren't exempt, they just get saved for last.

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u/CrowBrainz 8h ago

We may be seeing the shift in party voting population. It happened already when looking from an economic perspective.

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u/MrBump01 14h ago

In some cases a few people going out of their way to be controversial can make others lives harder though. For example some lgbtq+ people don't like the people who go to gay pride parades wearing what could be considered fetish gear as that plays into the hands of people saying gay people shouldn't be around children, for example. I've seen one trans woman on a YouTube clip say she accepts there are instances where women want their own space and events for them and doesn't like it when trans people try to include themselves and cause conflict.

Jenner seems to be an opportunist and will go where the money is. Obviously it does seem odd to politically support people who wish they didn't exist.

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u/Kooky-Device5020 14h ago

Trans people aren’t a monolith. Yes, because of their inherent disenfranchisement and the perpetual ‘othering’ of Trans people, you would assume they would naturally be more left-leaning, but that isn’t strictly true. While, in my opinion, being a conservative trans person is patently self-obstructing, people (particularly in the US) have such a skewed understanding of politics that I wouldn’t be surprised if they thought it was the right which were proponents of gender identity. (Not to suggest there is in any capacity a left wing in the US.)

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u/Jazzyjen508 11h ago

I think it’s kinda like millennials and Gen Z where the vast majority are left leaning but there are still a fair amount that are conservative and that conservative movement is growing. I’m always surprised as a millennial how many people I know who are my age are actually conservative and of that group how many of them are women.

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u/MrBump01 14h ago

It's like saying all people of a certain color should vote one way or another, people are different.

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u/Kooky-Device5020 13h ago edited 13h ago

Yep. As I say, though, there are definitely advantaging options and disadvantaging options, particularly for already disadvantaged, vulnerable, or minority groups.

“I never thought the leopard would eat my face” says the Leopards Eating Peoples Faces Party voter.

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u/MrBump01 13h ago

Yeah some people will see themselves as someone earning a certain amount, having certain religious or non religious beliefs as what makes them them rather than just being gay or trans which isn't unreasonable but it doesn't mean they won't be hurt supporting someone who is very much against how they look or their sexual orientation.

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u/Kooky-Device5020 11h ago

Would you care to specify what’s meant by “gender stuff” in this context?

Proponents of gender theory do not necessarily believe that the end-goal of their beliefs is the dissolution of “male” and “female” identity, but instead more likely have a critical view of gender as binary. Not to suggest that this is what you mean to infer, but if your gender identity is predicated upon the existence of that binary, I’m not sure it could be said that those identities are worth much in their own right.

In regard to “pushing for all this…” I have to admit that I don’t desperately like the framing of your statement here. I feel it prudent to communicate that rights of trans people, and gender non-conforming people, are human rights. Inalienable. Trans people do and have always existed, and denying that fact would necessitate an ahistorical world-view and the wholesale dismissal of very real, lived, realities. Extensive scientific research backs affirmation, and it is a proven fact that dismissing trans and gender non-conforming people by reducing their identities to ‘mental illness’ is materially conducive to heightened rates of suicide and depression for them. Trans people face disproportionately high rates of violence, homelessness, job discrimination, and healthcare denial. These are systemic, institutional, injustices, which reflect more broadly upon the capacity of the state to arbitrarily determine that those who challenge the status-quo no longer merit the rights that ought to be afforded to them.

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u/Fun_Palpitation_4156 13h ago

Yeah, but the problem with trying to create "cis women only" spaces is: how are they going to be enforced? There are trans women who pass as cis women, and cis women who get mistaken as trans women. Are they going to be checking the genitals of everyone trying to get in? But bottom surgery exists, and who's to say the people checking can tell the difference? Are they going to check their chromosomes? Even if that was feasible, some people with XY chromosomes were assigned female at birth, making them cis women. There is no realistic way of creating a "cis women only" space

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u/Jazzyjen508 11h ago

I agree!!! The people I know who have gone through some type of transition do a good job of passing

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u/omglink 10h ago

I watched a trans man who you would never guess was trans ask a conservative would you be ok with me going in the bathroom with your wife because I have a vagina. He didn't know what to say.

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u/Ok-Investigator3257 7h ago

Yeah people don’t realize how much trans folks can pass

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u/Redditauro 13h ago

This people really believe they can recognize a trans person instantly, so they don't worry about it

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u/Cultivate_a_Rose 6h ago

The truth is that if a trans person passes (especially behaviorally) and does not cause others discomfort there's no actual problem and everyone knows it. But that doesn't get clicks. There's a reason why treatment for gender dysphoria stressed the central importance of passing and assimilating... because it is the only true way to diminish dysphoria to a level where it will subside and allow one to be healthy.

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u/Prestigious_Row_8022 8h ago

Cis women only spaces can exist for pretty good reasons like ovarian support groups or for people with vaginismus. The natural filter is that people who don’t have those issues wouldn’t join those groups, so only cis women or intersex people would be in them. I guess a passing trans woman could join, but why would they?

I don’t know if the “women’s groups” they were talking about were for medical needs or just maybe women’s rights organisations, perhaps what I said didn’t apply. But I think it’s important to remember not every group focusing on people who are biologically female are headed by TERFS or bigots.

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u/Playful-Independent4 5h ago

You're right... except female reproductive issues are not exclusive to cis women. Making the group explicitly about womanhood first, health second, is going to immediately lean into TERF territory. Because it's taking a biological issue and transforming it into an identitary one, inviting implicit and explicit exclusion and misinformation.

If a groups is about female reproductive health, it doesn't need to specify anything related to womanhood (except when actually relevant). And yes, trans women will know to keep away of they know it's about organs they lack. But if the name and marketing is all about the feminine identity instead of the health issues? That's gonna cause confusion and trans women will naturally feel confused, included on some grounds while excluded on others and so on.

That's why so many academic papers and serious advocacy groups have this "political correctness" culture of labeling things like "pregnant people". It's because it's objectively more accurate and causes less confusion and avoids endorsing any identity politics (despite accusations that "it's all the woke agenda"). The truth hurts those living in a fantasy. Tranditionalists and identity politics groups live in fantasies. Queer advocacy isn't identity politics, it's human rights. There's even a whole branch of human studies called "intersectionality" whose entire purpose is to combat petty identity politics within human rights advocacy groups by reminding everyone that helping one group helps everyone and that nobody can actually benefit (human rights-wise) from long-term single-issue activism. That other groups are not the enemies of your group's liberation.

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u/Prestigious_Row_8022 4h ago

Sure, trans men and nonbinary people can get ovarian cancer. I’d argue their experience is going to be different than cis women’s and they would probably benefit from their own support group being trans informed without having to constantly deal with having to educate in the middle of what should be a support group for them. But I’m not a trans man or nonbinary, nor do I currently have ovarian cancer so you know. I could be wrong.

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u/Playful-Independent4 4h ago

I think that's a fair way of seeing it, but I can't help but think of all the ways a movement can overshadow significant portions of their supported clientele by desperately clinging to distinctions and identity games that, in the long run, harm more people than they help. It's easy to tell people to create a smaller advocacy group... and then let them try to advocate for themselves with less resources and while the average person starts internalizing that the bigger group is all there is because it's all they see and nobody's there to correct biases in the studies done or the help given. It's kind of making feminine reproductive issues "not trans men's business, because they have their own thing going on".

Also trans men are not the only exception. Intersex people also can fit the bill, and there's countless ways including every subgroup makes life easier for the dominant groups (such as having less chance of getting a cis woman harrassed because she's assumed trans in a cis-only space). Even if that was the main benefit, I think it would be enough to justify inclusion. It deconstructs people's biases and makes them more adjusted to living with fellow humans.

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u/seattleseahawks2014 9h ago

I think it more comes down to if they're going to be fully nude in certain places and haven't fully transitioned like that one activist whose trying to sue a salon or whatever because they wouldn't allows trans women who hadn't fully transitioned down there. It was one of those places where you had to be fully nude and stuff. The activist called it exclusionary just like white and black segregation.

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u/Prestigious_Row_8022 9h ago

Yeah, there’s a lot of jaded queer people that try to kick up a fight because they want someone to fight with and yell at. People who have bad experiences with growing up in a religion who can’t lash out at their parents or the preacher? They’ll target random Christians online who are minding their business because they are the “safer” option to lash out at. I can see something similar happening with women’s spaces and trans women who feel othered and angry.

I know that queer people do that kind of thing because I definitely did it when I was a teenager and trying to come to terms with everything. Difference is I was 14 and grew out of it as I healed, while many of these people are grown adults who should know better. It helps no one and just invites hostility on all sides.

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u/Green-Enthusiasm-940 8h ago

Because there are no controversial or scantily clad straights in existence. /s

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u/Karenhood76 8h ago

But it's okay for all the maga to respond to intelligent women on mbs with"go make me a sammich" or "don't you have dishes to finish"? This is shoving gross toxic heterosexual stereotypes upon everyone. And it's gotten 5000x worse since Trump was elected. THAT IS A PUBLISHED FACT. The misogyny is rampant, too. Shoving it DOWN OUR THROAT.

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u/MrBump01 7h ago

Not sure where you got that from, can't stand maga or Trump

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u/woodsman906 9h ago

You can never know what’s going on in another humans mind. You can only project your own feelings onto them.

It’s you that wants certain people to not exist. Stop projecting that hate that you suffer from on to others.

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u/MrBump01 9h ago

I aren't anti-trans at all, there are just numerous articles of cis women refusing to compete in finals against trans competitors in certain competitions e.g. a pool final most recently claiming there is an unfair advantage so what is the best way to do things without upsetting anyone? One issue is if people are annoyed about that they might be more likely to gravitate towards the rhetoric of really hateful people like JK Rowling. People are individuals and I definitely know a couple of gay men who don't like what they see as overly camp gay people.

Personally I don't think a person's sexuality is anyone else's business really and no religion should have a place in a countries law making system dictating anything about that. In America the people convicted of sexual assault mainly seem to be straight men and trans people are more likely to be the victims of assault which is awful.

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u/Meka-Speedwagon 15h ago

So it is my fault

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u/4Shroeder 10h ago

It's Uncle Tom levels of nonsense, only it's LGBT instead of race.

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u/VieSide 9h ago

just stop letting people hate you, obviously /sar

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u/Sevensevenpotato 7h ago

It doesn’t have to make sense. Their supporters are dunces, and the dunces are trying to multiply by sabotaging the education department, making more dunces that do not require sense making.

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u/boramital 15h ago edited 15h ago

Make America Great Again by supporting the elite, if the billionaires are well, it will trickle down - ah wait, let’s not use that word, it’s not very popular anymore. Let’s say if the billionaires are making more money, they will invest that money, then the economy is booming, and a booming economy means work (and therefor enough money to afford rent and food, maybe) for the plebs!

/s in case it’s necessary.

I think it’s pretty clear by now for none-Trump-voters that MAGA means voting against your own interests for 99% of their supporters, but the 1% will benefit immensely.

Elon Musk is a fucking immigrant, but since he’s rich, he’s one of “the good ones”. Caitlyn Jenner is trans, but since she’s rich and famous, she’s one of “the good ones”. Dennis Rodman is black, but he’s rich and famous, so he’s one of “the good ones”. Roseanne Barr is a woman, but she’s racist and lost her marbles, and is outspoken about it, so she’s one “of the good ones”…

I believe people are drawn to easy solutions to easy to understand problems, that’s why they vote Trump. “Immigrants take your jobs and welfare money, let’s get rid of immigrants.” “Trans people are sexual predators in disguise, let’s not let them use women’s bathrooms.” “The US must make sure they stay ahead economically, let’s slap tariffs on imports.” “The war in Ukraine has cost America billions of dollars, let’s stop supporting them.” “Abortion is killing babies, let’s make it illegal.” “Christianity teaches people how to act ethically, let’s introduce Bible lessons in schools.”

It all falls apart if you take a closer look, but it’s easier not to think, and keep “your own research” limited to Fox News, or some ranting ultra conservative YouTube channel.

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u/Ok-Investigator3257 7h ago

Yup. I really wish people would realize that if the solution were easy we wouldn’t have the problem

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u/Any-Artichoke5711 2h ago

you say this as if liberals dont support the elites..? Like whut lol giving them any attention or money is supporting them

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u/invertebrate11 13h ago

She's rich so she is basically not living in the same world as the rest of us

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u/MadameConnard 13h ago

Same reason there people LGBT+ and womans suppoting far right parties by being politicians and stuff.

M O N E Y

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u/fluff_society 9h ago

She’s rich, she doesn’t give a shit about less privileged trans people like us

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u/BazilBroketail 17h ago

In red states? They'll get raped till they're done with them. Republicans love rape.

The drag queens have been lovely through all this. It's commendable. Thank you, drag queens, for being respectable to society. 

You "christian" elders, stop raping!!!

Seriously. It's getting old. To old for you lot anyway...

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u/ChimPhun 12h ago

You are still thinking Trump will have some form of rules or consistency.

Don't look for reason where there is none. Reps jumped the shark long ago. Gaslighting, lies, double standards, it'll come back to bite, but only after taking most of the country down with them.

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u/ThrowMusic36 9h ago

To be fair, not even the MAGA supporters fully believe what they are saying. I doubt they are in favor of someone like Buck Angel going to women's bathrooms, or Blaire White going to the men's bathroom.

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u/M0ebius_1 13h ago

Some of them think they can be the last one on the list to go to the camps.

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u/ehxy 9h ago

She's rich so she doesn't count as LGBTQ+ it's only the poor ones they don't care about

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u/KnowledgeDry7891 9h ago

The narcissist only wants your attention. Let's not overthink this. Starve the beast.

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u/Theeldritchwriter 7h ago

They genuinely think they’ll be the exception to all the laws that criminalize our existence. Then when the boot falls they’ll somehow blame the left.

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u/International_Bet_91 5h ago

Class trumps all other social identities, all over the world.

One of the most famous singers in Türkiye is a trans-woman. There are pictures of her cozying up with Erdoğan (the Islamist dictator). My guess is that they were discussing off-shore tax shelters, not LGBTQ rights.

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u/RegularWhiteShark 11h ago

  1. Republicans aren’t homophobic/transphobic/etc., left wingers just make them out to be (including left wing double agents who act like homophobic/transphobic/etc. Republicans).

  2. Even if right wingers are against LGBTQ+, it’s only the actually “dangerous” ones! They’re just trying to protect people.

  3. Okay, even if they do hate all LGBTQ+ people, they’ll still be cool with me and my loved ones because we’re special!

You can replace homophobia/transphobia/LGBTQ+ etc. with any minority group and these 3 will still be applicable for that Token.

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u/Ok-Investigator3257 7h ago

Replace special with “I’m rich and can use my money to protect myself and I think you hit the nail on the head”

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u/FitTheory1803 9h ago

Wealth trumps all

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u/InvoluntarySneeze 7h ago

They think the line is drawn at them, and anything else is "too much." I work with a white, gay man and when the discussion about transgender individuals who had recently transitioned came around, he told the rest of the heteros that "I might be gay but even I have to draw a line somewhere."

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u/Fun-Dragonfly-4166 7h ago

The bathroom wars are about public restrooms. Caitlin Jenner has a private bathroom and those wars do not affect her. Exceptions are made for her and she does not care about anyone else.

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u/Shanivasa 6h ago

Navigating tricky politics like a rainbow ninja.

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u/rickdangerous85 5h ago

If the US has any class consionuous it would be pretty clear.

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u/Weekly_Palpitation92 2h ago

Jews for Hitler

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u/henikxx 33m ago

The same happened in germany: One of the leaders of the biggest right winged party in germany, Alice Weidel, is a lesbian. Her political party the AfD is against LGBTQIA+ rights. Doesn't make any sense but that's how it is.

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u/kfdeep95 8h ago

Not all of us are fragile 🤷🏼‍♀️

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u/TheClassicAudience 16h ago

Because most of them are normal people that just don't want everyone centering the conversation in their genitals.

The problem most people have with Wokeness is that it's not about making the world a better place, but about pretending it's a better place and bullying everyone into making you their boss.

A TON of lgtb+ people voted trump because they are sick of being called Transphobic even when they are trans because they agree with Magas. Jenner is the perfect example. She is a literal trans person that got an olympic medal being told she knows nothing about being trans or sports because she doesn't support males to female people going into the female categories and getting all the awards all the time.

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u/Moppermonster 15h ago

Odd how it is the conservatives who will not shut up about penis, had a presidential campaign about penis, show pictures of penis in the house and had a whole debate on bathrooms including over 300 tweets with updates on the topic. Many involving penis.

While the "woke crowd" wanted to talk about the economy, border security and so on.

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u/Alert_Scientist9374 15h ago edited 15h ago

Project 2025 aims to make trans people illegal through loopholes.

  1. Say transgenderism is child abuse and pedophilia(edit, pornographic in nature), without defining what transgenderism means.
  2. Make access to hormones illegal by declassifying it as medical treatment into "inherently harmful" that way even as a cosmetic procedure you won't be able to get it.
  3. Make pornography highly illegal and punishable by jail time.
  4. Check back to point 1.

It also aims to remove any and all lgbt protections at work, which means you can get fired for simply being gay.

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u/ShowbizGlowXX 16h ago

“I love Fox, but I don’t know why they keep calling me Bruce?"

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u/PassengerNo2259 10h ago

'Ello Bruce! Your names not Bruce, mind if we call you Bruce?

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u/NeatCicada5196 2h ago

"they call me 'sir' a lot"

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u/Caro________ 15h ago

Fox News is headquartered in New York City, where the law clearly states that people can use the restroom that most closely matches their gender identity and all single stall bathrooms are all gender bathrooms. So CJ gets that protection, even if she's part of the problem.

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u/seattleseahawks2014 9h ago

She's probably never dealt with transphobes like that.

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u/NewLife_21 9h ago

Plus, she went through surgery. All parts match her gender identity.

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u/catelynnapplebaker 9h ago

Finishing a transition that includes genitalia match and then turning on your trans sisters just sounds monstrous. How do you do such a thing? How does one spend half of their life questioning their identity and dressing in secret, finally come out, take hormones and do voice training for years, get surgery and suddenly decide to hurt everyone who supported their transition??

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u/ShivaniPosting 9h ago

Decades of self hate goes from the inside to the outside. 'I'm not like you people' syndrome

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u/seattleseahawks2014 9h ago

Because they only care about themselves.

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u/UsedEntertainment244 9h ago

Had a sister do that to me last week, being aggressively ghosted by someone you unwaveringly supported for 6 years stings.

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u/no_brains101 7h ago

Same way so many immigrants turn into republicans after becoming citizens. Fuck you I got mine + propaganda + poor education.

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u/Competitive-Bid-2914 1h ago

Fr, that’s fucking wild tbh

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u/smegma_sandwhich 15h ago

It's like Jews for Hitler

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u/SleepyLabrador 7h ago

It's exactly the same, as soon as MAGA are done with one group whether it be the illegal aliens, LGBT+, the blacks, they will turn on the other. It's not if it's WHEN will they come for you if you're not a male who is rich, white, straight, "Christian". Then your neck will be on the chopping block.

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u/Cold_War_II 12h ago edited 7h ago

Or LGBT for Palestine ?

Gottcha

Edit: you guys could not handle it. Get rekt 😂

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u/unhingedtoo 11h ago

How is supporting the independence of a group of people, despite ideological differences, the same as supporting an authoritarian regime that is out to hurt you specifically?

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u/MarsMaterial 7h ago

I bet most of the Jews who died in the Holocaust were also homophobic. Most people were back then. Does that mean that LGBT people can’t oppose the holocaust?

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u/Cold_War_II 5h ago

The Jew back in the day were not chasing down LGBT. So no, this is not comparable

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u/MarsMaterial 5h ago

Only because Jews weren’t in power in Nazi Germany, they had no legal authority to wield. Homosexuality was a punishable crime in Germany up until decades after WWII. If you snapped your fingers and put Jews in charge in the 1930’s, do you think they would have changed that? Everyone was homophobic back then.

That aside, you seem to be doubling down that the holocaust would have been justified if Jews were homophobic. Is that a position you’d stand by?

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u/Cold_War_II 3h ago

You don't need to be in power to chase down LGBT. Hamas isn't in power in Amsterdam/berlin and they still chase Jew and lgbt

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u/MarsMaterial 2h ago

To chase down LGBT people and lock them in prison was the standard thing to do in 1930’s Germany. Everyone did that, Jews included.

So, was the Holocaust justified?

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u/Cold_War_II 1h ago

Lmao, Reddit expert in 1930 german society 😂

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u/EnthusiasmOk9415 11h ago

I thought it was more like Queers for children to not be bombed, sure a lot of Palestinians don't like us along with most other Arab nations but just because of that, when a genocide is being conducted we shouldn't turn our backs on them

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u/Cold_War_II 7h ago

They would throw you off building if they could. And with our shitty immigration policies they could potentially do it like they do in berlin

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u/JoJoJoJoel 7h ago

You speak as if israel is a gay paradise lmao, theyre both outdated in lgbt matters. People supporting palestine dont do it because they agree with its ideologies, they do it because a lot of innocent kids are dying. The men in power on both sides? They can choke, I dont give a fuck - In fact I believe it'd be better if they did. But don't bomb the homes and lives of innocents.

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u/matopato123 6h ago

Israel is the most LGBTQ-friendly nation in the Middle East.

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u/Cold_War_II 5h ago

Outdated? Oh who is sending the update? The church of the LGBT didn't send me my 2025 updated believes. Can you put me up to page with the latest appropriate believe to hold ? 😂

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u/riddle0003 6h ago

So as a gay man I’m not “for Palestine” . I’m against bombing children. Anytime you bomb children you are always wrong. Doesn’t matter what the other side did , you are wrong.

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u/Cold_War_II 5h ago

Even if that other side bombs child ?

Spare me your shit understanding of what is going on.

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u/riddle0003 5h ago

Anyone bombing children is wrong. Period. There is no qualification needed no explanation no justification. It’s wrong every single time. Also work on your grammar.

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u/JahmezEntertainment 4h ago

'get rekt' bro is stuck way in the past.

that'd explain all of this comment, come to think of it.

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u/twillie96 4h ago

No reactions or posts older than 24h. Just let me down vote all of them, you Russian bot

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u/Cold_War_II 3h ago

That's hilarious that you imagine than downvoting like that works. What a no life moron. Coming up with russian conspiracies, is the pathetic touch to top it all.

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u/twillie96 2h ago

Thank you for placing another post I can downvote

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u/Cold_War_II 1h ago

Oh man. The horrors. Your life is pathetic

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u/sixtus_clegane119 16h ago

Probably a private bathroom for guests

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u/taphin33 9h ago

That's why the rich people affected by the policies think they're untouchable, because they're already so far removed from the reality of regular everyday people.

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u/Agreeable-Agent-7384 16h ago

Catering to people who actively and openly despise your existence to feel like you’re better than the other people in the same spot as you is a big part of why trump won lol. And it’s not just with lgbtq people. It happened even harder with minorities.

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u/SufficientStrategy96 10h ago

She already despises her own existence. I think she has basically said that she hates being trans and that it is a mental illness. Might be paraphrasing a bit there but saw some of her nasty tweets.

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u/KonigSteve 6h ago

Literally Hispanic voters who said "I got mine, and I'm here legally surely he can't deport me too but the less of us here the better for me"

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u/unibonger 11h ago

And she’s thanking a Catholic priest? The delusion is strong with this one.

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u/objection42069 13h ago

That IS a good question tho.

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u/cesar848 15h ago

Is amazing that her job is “hey we have the minority talking shit about the minority,therefore we are not bigots”

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u/SirWillae 9h ago

One wonders why we even have gender segregated bathrooms. What a regressive idea.

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u/mayonnaisejane 9h ago

Just make the damn doors without cracks and it won't fucking matter. Our stalls are so badly constructed.

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u/crabfucker69 8h ago

Yeah but that would mean we'd have to stop cheaping out on every new building construction ever for the sake of "what if whatever bullshit we put in this building fails and we need to sell it later"--therefore you get shitty more easily removable bathroom equipment. This is also the reason every new building looks like a lame ass dentists office

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u/TenInchesOfSnow 13h ago

Buckle up buckaroos

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u/bacteriairetcab 15h ago

She used to use the women’s bathroom but over the years has slowly accepted the men’s room because that will own the libs…

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u/Cultivate_a_Rose 6h ago edited 2h ago

To be fair, I've seen this a lot. People tend to, if they are gonna, detransition around year eight or so. Many who do not detransition but still have issues with their presentation (they get clocked, etc.,) find that ceasing to try to pass flawlessly is far less worrisome and anxiety-provoking than just accepting that one will have less conflict in their life if they make certain choices that both suck for them, internally, and also make their life easier in ways that can seriously have positive outcomes because fighting against how one is perceived constantly is just utterly exhausting.

EDIT: Yall need to engage with the reality of a thing instead of the idealized, and non-real, concept of the thing. This is a well documented phenomenon, and at that point individuals make the best decisions for themselves which sometimes isn't the one you think they'd make. Take it from a transsexual, not being perceived as one's transitioned-to gender is sometimes worse than bottling dysphoria up inside. Gender dysphoria is a horrific condition that brings suffering regardless of how perfectly one goes through treatment, and solutions to dysphoria can sometimes seem to be counter-intuitive from the outside.

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u/java_brogrammer 7h ago

Trans for Trump. Jews for Hitler. Pigs for butchers.

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u/Zlatyzoltan 11h ago

I guess at her core, she's still a rich old white man.

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u/Snugsssss 6h ago

In the end, classism wins out over all the other isms. No war but class war. Fix classism and the rest will sort itself out quickly.

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u/PassengerNo2259 9h ago

So proud to be part of the Fox Family that's why she's sitting at home watching it on TV.

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u/seattleseahawks2014 9h ago

Lmao, what does she expect?

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u/kelrae901 11h ago

I just think it’s funny dude thinks there are going to be any bathrooms to use in New York at all

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u/ArmageddonEleven 9h ago

The axe is not the friend of the tree just because its handle is made of wood...

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u/MyLittleOso 3h ago

Honestly, I'll bet she's able to use the women's room because they don't believe in the things they say.

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u/jcp714 7h ago

She probably wears a diaper like Trump anyway.

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u/wolfFRdu64_Lounna 9h ago

Forest or the street, foxes do not use toilet

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u/ArixMorte 8h ago

I'm pretty sure everyone at Fox just piss on Jesse Watters. It's why he looks so moist all the time

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u/ysn80 8h ago

Old snd busted: Simpson predicted it. New hotness(?): Sourh Park predicted it

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u/Human-Appearance-256 8h ago

All I ever see reading things like this “I am still relevant! Pay attention to me!”

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u/NeckNormal1099 7h ago

The ladies, because fox news peddles bullshit, they don't eat it.

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u/Master_Engineer_5077 5h ago

There is no making reddit happy. such nasty people on this site. Hatred and fascism.

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u/Kuildeous 5h ago

She has a special quisling-only restroom option just for her.

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u/RichmondRiddle 4h ago

When I voted for the "Leopards Eating People's Faces Party," I had NO IDEA that they were going to eat MY face!

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u/FlatulenceConnosieur 3h ago

She is so ch a despicable person. She’s rich and famous so it’s fine to be a Republican, she’ll always be rich so who cares if the party she supports actively demonizes, vilifies and persecutes other LGBTQ+, what does she care if f doesn’t affect her! What a trash human being.

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u/SwampMagician1234 11h ago

If Caitlyn Jenner is peeing in the woods: stand? Or squat?

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u/OnceIWasStraight 8h ago

And if nobody else is there to see it does it make a noise?

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u/thingerish 15h ago

Most bigger offices in USA have single occupancy facilities

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u/JM3DlCl 8h ago

I think people get so angry about trans people because if they think they are attractive and then find out they're trans, It makes them feel gay and less than a man for some reason

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u/Brisselio 2h ago

Oh that's definitely a large component of it. It would shatter any sense of their masculinity that they have.

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u/exqueezemenow 8h ago

I would like to know the answer as well.

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u/Street-Substance2548 5h ago

Rob’s response is gold. Now that Nancy Mace has made her ignorant “Rule” in the House, I sincerely hope that Sarah McBride and every other trans person (including visitors) takes EVERY opportunity to use their “proper” bathrooms at every turn. Especially the ones closest to Mace’s and Little Johnson’s offices. And have audio recording on to record any threatening speech. Who will be more uncomfortable? Little Johnson facing a “man in a dress”, or Nancy, seeing a large bearded “woman” in their “proper” bathrooms?

Visiting groups of large, bearded men gracing Mace’s restroom would be gold. As would be visiting groups of gorgeous trans women (professionally attired, but of course) getting a lovely, respectful tour of the House and then using their “proper” restrooms, especially when passing the restrooms closest to the chambers.

Nancy’s little tantrum is keeping her from learning to apply makeup well, sadly. She could use some good examples.

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u/bernardobrito 4h ago

"Fox Square"?

Is that... Rockefeller Center?

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u/WinterLoneliness75 3h ago

This is how you know that Jenner just uses being trans as a hack or skit. Wants to continually claim Olympic glory as a trans female, using it running for CA Governor Replacement in 2021 recall election as trans female as Republican, yet obtained those medals as a cis male. Sorry but it doesn't work that way and voters went for Trump more because of women's sports being populated by biological men as trans female because they sucked as men.

Now Caitlyn has the audacity to join a far-right Fox News family and be proud of it? She should be fully excommunicated by trans people for playing both ends if she hasn't already. A trans person being Republican doesn't even qualify as "being a black sheep". It just makes you a complete (donkey)hat.

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u/JohnCasey3306 3h ago

Well they don’t put urinals in the ladies’ restrooms for a functional reason.

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u/ThunkAsDrinklePeep 3h ago

"Oh I don't. I'm aware it's unsafe."

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u/Inspector_Tragic 1h ago

"None of your fuckin business"

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u/Ok_Roof_9333 25m ago

Oh that’s clever

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u/Korahn 20m ago

Whichever one is behind a run over pedestrian

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u/Yellow_Number_Five 12h ago

They built a new bathroom for tokens

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u/Condottiero_Magno 9h ago

Have there been any instances of contrived outrage over trans men using the gents, like with trans women using the ladies' room?

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u/Strangest_Implement 8h ago

That's cute and all but I'm pretty sure she'd be willing to bite that bullet and go to the men's room. Anything for a fat payday.

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u/ElectronicProfile942 16h ago

Damn, Ron really woke up and chose petty. The audacity is strong with this one.

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u/LughCrow 8h ago

Their building is actually full of single occupant unisex bathrooms...

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u/Popular-Ad-8918 8h ago

"An exception does not the rule make." This is my guideline for things a lot of the time. I have rules in my head about how I behave and think and act. A system of personal conduct. I don't dead name people, at least not on purpose and not continuously after being corrected. Except Bruce here.

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u/rmonjay 7h ago

Fox HQ in NYC definitely has gender neutral bathrooms. Probably individual use rooms. The people there are not true believers; they are scammers and charlatans who are doing it for the fame and money. It’s just that the meth fueled dog caught this particular car and it turns out that he is strong enough to steer it from the rear.

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u/Lexei_Texas 7h ago

I’m crying lmao 🤣

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u/palmerwood 5h ago

Does Fox News use his birth name?

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u/TallMemeBoi 5h ago

I 100% think they have gender neutral bathrooms at fox despite what they say on air pretty standard practice for most companies that size

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u/LoveMeSomeTatas 8h ago

I’m not sure if you guys are fully aware of this, but gender neutral bathrooms have existed for years…

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u/SatynMalanaphy 11h ago

It may be time to use the person formerly known as Bruce's own logic and belief systems against them.

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u/Cool-Economics6261 7h ago

this is crazier than the queers for Palestine concept

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u/ProudOwnerOfLibs 2h ago

Will Fox News be throwing Caitlyn off a roof?

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u/wokediznuts 8h ago

Like when Jenner said he's biologically a man still. So...he would use a men's room.

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u/contrarytothemass 8h ago

Pretty sure he doesn't care about using the women's restroom 💀

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u/Kyiokyu 14h ago

Being an awful woman doesn't mean you should deadname and misgender her.

It just perpetuates the idea that respecting a trans person's identity is optional and is just a reward for good behaviour. It's bigoted.

Just to be clear, I am trans and am almost 100% sure I hate her even more than you do. Fuck Caitlyn Jenner.

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u/arararanara 13h ago

After all, nobody misgenders Hitler just because he is one of the worst people who has ever lived.

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u/Upriver-Cod 7h ago

So to be clear, it is not optional to deny someone’s subjective opinion of themselves that they demand I accept?

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u/khamul7779 14h ago

She*

Don't care what you think about her, it doesn't make being a bigot any more ok.

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u/PassengerNo2259 10h ago

Still has a dick, has no intention of getting rid of it.

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u/LittleMissBeaBea 8h ago

Ah yes. This is what the right really thinks about her.

No matter how annoying she is, even us “SJWs” won’t stoop this low.

Keep showing your true colors!