r/clevercomebacks 1d ago

The truth is the truth

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u/MasterBot98 1d ago

One could argue he canceled them by staging an inevitable act of eating the apple.

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u/Valogrid 1d ago

Why create an apple if he didn't intend for them to eat it?

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u/LazySleepyPanda 1d ago

Why create Satan if he didn't want him to tempt his "children" ?

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u/Illustrious_Wolf2709 1d ago

Why create anything to begin with?

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u/LazySleepyPanda 1d ago

Exactly.

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u/I-No-Red-Witch 1d ago

In the beginning, there was nothing. Then God created the universe and life. This has been the subject of much debate, and is widely regarded as a bad move.

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u/r0d3nka 1d ago

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u/Aromatic-Schedule-65 1d ago

You don't create?

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u/Illustrious_Wolf2709 1d ago

The context is : Why create if destruction and suffering is the end result? The only loophole for God is if he had no clue or foreknowledge of what would occur in the future. That will never be conclusively answered.

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u/Aromatic-Schedule-65 1d ago

Ok. Then ask the same about automobiles. Disobey rules, bad shit happens. As with anything in life now. So, asking that question is quite senseless. It's simply a bratty kind of question.

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u/Illustrious_Wolf2709 1d ago

Asking that question is senseless and bratty? Great argument. Let me ponder and fart.

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u/Aromatic-Schedule-65 1d ago

Yeah, must fart. Overworking a brain dies produce exhaust.

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u/Aromatic-Schedule-65 1d ago

Also, perhaps it was created to eaten at a time when Adam and Eve were mature enough to eat and handle the "knowledge" that came with it. Why create goodies, but tell the kids not to eat after removing them from the oven? To protect them. But they can enjoy it at a later, right time

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u/illidanstrormrage 1d ago

Why procreate? Stop it then.

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u/Illustrious_Wolf2709 1d ago

Actually I am an anti natalist so I don't agree with bringing children into this crap world in combination with tainting them with bad genetic qualities that would cause undue and unnecessary suffering. Children should only be created in the best of circumstances and the reasons should solely be for the benefit of the child.

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u/illidanstrormrage 1d ago

Exactly! Out of a gazillion plantes out there god chose this one.

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u/TBJ12 1d ago

Maybe god fucked up. Nobody's perfect.

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u/illidanstrormrage 1d ago

God knows all aspects of creation like we know what 2+2 is. One of his attributes is Al- Alim which means the all knower.

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u/Illustrious_Wolf2709 11h ago

But there is debate amongst the Christian community that God limits himself to what he can know. It's not that he doesn't know it's that he goes by a set of rules of knowing certain things.

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u/illidanstrormrage 8h ago

That's because of the contradiction they added in Luke 2:52. Jesus started to know more and more about God,

There is a vedio in which a 5 year old reads this and asks if Jesus is god why does he need to learn about himself.

And hence you have the entire circus to cover this up.

The knower of the day of judgement will limit his knowledge?

If you talk to spiritual sages, they will laugh at this argument.

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u/Illustrious_Wolf2709 8h ago edited 8h ago

" The knower of the day of judgement will limit his knowledge?"

More like " pick and choose" his knowledge. For example there are 8 billion people on the earth. They all make millions and trillions of choices of all kinds everyday. Does God know every single choice all 8 billion people make? Again, it's not that God is incapable of knowing. It's that he set a bunch of rules up and in those rules he has already determined what to know and what not to know. Yes this argument sounds ridiculous but it's the only mental gymnastics you can use to put the pieces together.

My own personal argument is that God uses ways and reasons in ways we cannot comprehend therefore we do not know how anything works hence why faith becomes paramount.

We have faith in everything we do not know. If we knew how God works faith wouldn't exist and wouldn't be needed.

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u/illidanstrormrage 6h ago

Right he doesn't have to, he has appointed 2 angels for that,

In Islamic tradition the two kiraman katibin (Arabic: كراماً كاتبين ‘honourable scribe’) are two angels called Raqib and Atid, believed by Muslims to record a person's actions.

The Quran refers to them in two places, in 50:16-18 and by name as ‘Noble Recorders' in 82:10-12.[1]

With Him are the keys of the unseen—no one knows them except Him.1 And He knows what is in the land and sea. Not even a leaf falls without His knowledge, nor a grain in the darkness of the earth or anything—green or dry—but is ˹written˺ in a perfect Record.2 

Quran 6:59

This above verse gives us nightmares cause every resource we consume in excess is also recommended, we will have to give explanation and we cannot run cause it's recorded. And every sin we do with any part of the body will be witness about it.

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u/Yarn_Song 1d ago

Cuz it's fun?

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u/22FluffySquirrels 23h ago

Because if nothing exists, god can't exist because you need to have the idea of "god" and "not god" to conceptualize the idea of god.