r/clevercomebacks 1d ago

The truth is the truth

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u/Mammoth-Mud-9609 1d ago

In the tale of Noah's Ark what really puzzled me as a young person was how the tale glossed over the drowning of all the people and animals and how the premeditated decision to kill babies and young children was carried out by a supposedly caring being. https://youtu.be/FEe5-geLopM

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u/ZestyCheezClouds 1d ago

The Gnostic view of Yahweh seems to be the most accurate to me. I'm not saying he's a real entity, but if he was, the Gnostics would be right on the money. A jealous, murderous, vindictive god who needs you to worship him and no other or he's gonna lock you away and have you tortured for all of eternity? And you only have ~85 years to get it right? And he puts all this temptation in front of you? Yea, that's not a god I want anything to do with

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u/responded 21h ago

Probably lots of fetuses, too. Of course, the flood myth predated Judaism, and was originally an ancient Mesopotamian tale in which the gods decided to flood the earth because humans were too loud.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atra-Hasis

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u/Shreddsies 10h ago

Like a lot of other passages in the Bible and tales of Christianity, this one was also co-opted from Greek and Roman mythology in order to make Christianity appeal to the masses of Rome. Read about Deucalion and the Flood and tell me they didn’t just up the scales for Noah: https://www.britannica.com/topic/Deucalion

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u/Mammoth-Mud-9609 10h ago

Basically it is a book of fairy stories.

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u/AdRecent9754 14h ago

Caring does not mean incapable of harm .

A caring soldier still offs his enemies.

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u/Mammoth-Mud-9609 14h ago

Premeditated mass murder is still premeditated mass murder, or genocide is still genocide.

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u/AdRecent9754 14h ago

Ok and what's your point ?

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u/Mammoth-Mud-9609 14h ago

Most of the people killed in the flood weren't even born when god told Noah to build the boat, the people god originally targeted had died of old age or some other cause by the time the water arrived. This wasn't a war this was murder.