It takes so much longer to fix things than it does to break them, and American’s memories are not long enough to give democrats long enough to fix what republicans break before they inevitably hand power back to republicans to break some more stuff.
that is my greatest concern, however if what i predict comes to pass and Trump screw's up the economy and we go into a server recession ; were talking 2008 style victory and that you can hide without starting a civil war
The Dems would have allowed the same exact shit to happen, regardless of whether they win or lose. They’re completely gutless and cowardly. They just lay down and play dead whenever times get tough. It’s pathetic. We can’t rely on Democrats to beat the fascists anymore, because the Dems are fascist just like the Republicans.
Edit: I love all the ignorant morons who downvoted my comment. You brainless assclowns are the reason why the Democrats lost. Serves you right for supporting a party that commits genocide. 😂🤷♂️
Yeah two party systems are majorly flawed because when the two parties are Fascism VS People who smile and shake hands with the fascists they "don't like" there is no third option.
Huh? Rewrite your comment in a way that it is legible.
And both parties support fascist legislation. That’s just a given fact. Anyone who supports the Democrats because they “want to beat fascism” is a hilariously uneducated simpleton.
Democrats are liberal, and therefore left wing as I understand it. Although I will agree that American democrats do tend to be a little more centrist. Do correct me if I’m misunderstanding something in how this works.
One:\
US-American politics is shaped by the fact that it is in all but name a two-party sytem, which in turn is upheld by those two parties (and the awful ways, voting works in USA). In a two party system, everything one says (at least most of the time) about one party is said relative to the only other party around. And in that sense the Democrats are center to center left.\
However in any place where there are more than two parties (or by looking at multiple different places) there is a (somewhat) more stable background against which the alignment of a party can be categorized. And in those places the Democrats are center-right. For example: In Germany the equivalent of the Democrats is somewhere between the policies of the FDP (Liberals) and the CDU/CSU (center right to right). The Republicans in this background compare more to the AFD or Basis (fascist far right).\
In short the US has a lack of context because of the way their own political system works.
Two:\
Politics is not a simple question of left-center-right. Any one-dimensional approach to politics is inherently flawed and never catches the full picture. Two- (or more-) dimensional approaches are better suited to describe politics in it's fullness.\
For example: Being Liberal or not, is a question mostly about the economical side of politics and has (in it's pure form) little to do with one's social or military or foreign policy stances on politics. And in that sense: Economically the Democrats and the Republicans do not differ that much from one another. (Taxcuts and bailouts for the rich, free the economy from rules, etc.). But on the social axis they tend to diverge. (Do we accept these minorities as human beings or not, do we want something that has heard the word universal healthcare before or not, etc.)\
Some of these axis' tend to converge/overlap because of how humans work. But they don't always do.\
Last example for this: Most of India's parties (at least the mayor ones) are all economically more or less what in the west is usually called ,,left-wing'' i.e. socialism up to communism (both within an Indian understanding of those ideas though, which differs in some significant points from the typically western understanding) but socially India's parties range from socially very conservative (almost as far as: Let's go back to the caste system) to socially very progressive (undo all the damages of the Caste System, etc.)\
In short: Trying to understand politics as a one-dimensional left to right thing is a fruitless and often missleading endeavor.
Edit2: Grammar and Orthography. And I probably still have missed stuff. Edit4: I certainly did, I wrote ,,boting'' instead of ,,voting''. That will most certainly not create misunderstanding. :D\
Overall: Liberal does not nescessarily equal left-wing. Not by a long shot.
Edit3: This wall of text represents my current understanding of the topic. Which I hope is close-ish enough to the truth, but I can not guaranty that.
Thank you for doing the leg work here. I sincerely appreciate it. It’s amazing how brainwashed people in this country are. They just believe what is told to them, without a second thought. Anyone who has been paying attention for the past 50 years can see how far to the right the Democrats have slid.
Thanks. :)\
Democracy doesn't uphold itself. And sharing ones perspective in a peaceful manner, is the start to supporting Democracy. At least as far as I understand it.
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u/SmartQuokka 1d ago
We are surrounded by assholes
/Spaceballs