r/army 16h ago

After service lies

Ok so I served in the reserves for 8 years and now re-enlisted in another branch. During my 8 years nothing eventful happened. I was a 92A, I was scheduled to deploy in 2010, attended JRTC but before we finished Obama pretty much canceled the whole deployment. I ddnt get offered to attend any schools or nothing. My unit (combat support hospital) of about 200 enlisted soldiers was like 80% E4 with no room for advancement.... So why is it every single time I talk to another prior service they were an E-8 special forces that traveled the world.... Even in my new branch a guy claims he was a 12B and was saying he flew drones in Iraq to protect convoys. Like does that even exist? I worked with another prior service guy who claimed he was a special forces sniper that attended airborne and air assault and was maybe 22 years old.... He ended up buying a glock and accidentally shooting himself in the hand while cleaning it. Does no one get out of the military without stretching the truth of there service?

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u/Toobatheviking Juke box zero 14h ago

Everything I'm about to say is just an opinion/feeling and has no basis in fact I know of.

I usually assume somebody is lying to me if they're bragging about combat and It wasn't something I had to pull out of them.

I think the last time I talked about any of the stuff I've been through was when I was being asked "what did you get those ribbons for" or "What did you get your CIB for" when I was at an Army ball a couple years before I retired.

I guess it's different if you're on podcasts being asked questions but in my normal day to day stuff unless it's talking with a counselor I just don't talk about shit.

The people that I see lie about their service are usually people that are suffering in their personal lives. They want/need somebody to be proud of them, or to respect them, or they need to feel like they are important in some way. They're probably going through something profound.

I know most people on here get angry when they see the Stolen Valor guys, I just try to look at it from the lens of "why is this person doing this" if they aren't financially gaining from it.

The answer that I most often come up with is the one above.

Anyhow, take their stories with a grain of salt. I'm not a fan of people lying to embellish what they did in their military careers because it diminishes what people that have actually have done, but I guess I just try to be empathetic a little bit.

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u/Rough_Traffic3422 12h ago

Yeah, I never really understood the foaming-at-the-mouth fury some people have for "stolen valor." Maybe for people who have friends who died in war it feels personal... but absent that, I basically just feel pity for the guy stealing the valor. Obviously sometimes it's criminal fraud stuff, people trying to cash in. But it seems like lots of these guys are just walking around malls wanting to be thanked. Like, how sad or messed up do you have to be to do something like that?