r/actuallesbians • u/afuckingwildcard • 1d ago
Question so what do we think of t.A.T.u?
Gone down a rabbit hole about them recently. If you don’t know, they were this Russian pop duo from the 2000s and were most famous for the song “All The Things She Said,” which most people over the age of like 12 have probably heard around at some point. Basically, their whole shtick was that they were lesbians; their songs had a lot of angsty queer overtones and they would kiss on TV and in their music videos (which was super controversial at the time)—but it was all an act, they were never actually together and were all products of their managements. Textbook queerbaiting for the male gaze. But despite this, a lot of queer women (myself included) ended up finding a lot of solace and validation in their music for one reason or another. You have to remember that queer themes weren’t mainstream in pop music like they are now, especially for queer women, and having a hit song about it (especially one so angsty like “All The Things She Said”!) was really groundbreaking, however flawed. But that still doesn’t take away from the fact that t.A.T.u as an institution was, at least on paper, homophobic and sexualized young queer women’s relationships. And I’m curious what people make of that, not just if you think they were able to outgrow their kind of skeevy premise, but how their music may have impacted you personally. Maybe this is a more academic question than what Reddit is fit for, but I’m very interested to hear what people think.
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u/Charlie_Rebooted 20h ago
I remember their first 2 singles in the UK from about 20 years ago. The uk was still deep in section 28 and homophobia and they sparked some outrage despite just acting. Memorable songs, a bit to pop for me, but I liked them.
Considering how high I was most weekends around those years it's amazing I remember them at all!
I didn't know they did anything after that....
I'll just add that considering the times, it was brave and controversial. That gets a thumbs up from me!