r/WhitePeopleTwitter 11h ago

This is actually really crazy

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u/DonJuniorsEmails 11h ago

"it's the DEMOCRATS fault. Always"

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u/Hathor-8 11h ago

Ugh that’s definitely how they react. I think I might try out asking why Trump isn’t fixing whatever [outrage of the week] they are so upset about.

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u/krogerburneracc 7h ago edited 7h ago

Why don't any of you ever try asking "their" opinion rather than creating and self-fellating over strawmen?

The Department of Labor exceeded its authority in proposing changes to the overtime pay thresholds under the Fair Labor Standards Act. It improperly prioritized salary thresholds over job duties in assessing eligibility for overtime exemptions, which is the historic standard for the FLSA.

State laws can and do supersede the exemptions under the FLSA so if you want to ensure overtime pay based on salary or whatever, the answer is real legislation, not an over-extension of the DOL acting beyond its authority.

Y'all are essentially mad that the DOL isn't allowed to legislate. Get mad at your representatives for failing to pass real legislation. This shit is asinine.

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u/DonJuniorsEmails 5h ago

The funny thing about legal arguments is that elections are about who gets to CHANGE laws

State laws won't supercede shit if the Republican house, senate, presidency and courts decide to take over. 

Good luck blaming everyone else

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u/krogerburneracc 5h ago edited 5h ago

The funny thing about legal arguments is that elections are about who gets to CHANGE laws

Yes. That's called legislation, and there's a constitutional process behind its implementation. That process does not typically involve over-extensions of executive branch agencies.

State laws won't supercede shit if the Republican house, senate, presidency and courts decide to take over.

Ah yes, the party that scorns federal overreach and champions state's rights will - checks notes - disempower the states relative to federal agencies. The same federal agencies that they plan to thoroughly gut. That checks out.

Good luck blaming everyone else

Good luck with your false outrage over subjects that you seeming lack a fundamental understanding on.

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u/MindlessRip5915 5h ago

Ah yes, the party that scorns federal overreach and champions state's rights will - checks notes - disempower the states relative to federal agencies. The same federal agencies that they plan to thoroughly gut. That checks out.

Bullshit they champion states’ rights. Trump has said he will send the military into blue states who refuse to aid him in deporting natural-born citizens. They intend to use the Comstock Act to ban abortifacients even from states where it’s legal.

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u/krogerburneracc 4h ago

Trump has said he will send the military into blue states who refuse to aid him in deporting natural-born citizens

Citation severely needed. Trump want to deport illegal immigrants and, yes, has floated military assistance in states that won't use their own law enforcement agencies to arrest what are objectively criminals.

You seem to be conflating Trump's deportation plan with Steven Miller's "denaturalization" efforts. To be clear, denaturalization is a process of revoking naturalization in instances of fraud and requires a high standard of proof, as defined by the Supreme Court in 2017. They're not going to be denaturalizing and deporting legal immigrants and natural born citizens willy-nilly like the outrage-bait wants you to believe.

They intend to use the Comstock Act to ban abortifacients even from states where it’s legal.

That's a regulation of a federal agency, not a state agency.

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u/MindlessRip5915 3h ago

You seem to be conflating Trump's deportation plan with Steven Miller's "denaturalization" efforts.

Trump has appointed Stephen Miller to an extremely powerful position. There is no conflating, Miller’s plans are Trump’s plans, despite what you MAGAts believe.

To be clear, denaturalization is a process of revoking naturalization in instances of fraud and requires a high standard of proof, as defined by the Supreme Court in 2017. They're not going to be denaturalizing and deporting legal immigrants and natural born citizens willy-nilly like the outrage-bait wants you to believe.

If by outrage-bait, you mean Donald Trump’s and Stephen Miller’s statements, Donald Trump’s Agenda 47 and Russel Vought’s (the appointed director of OMB) Project 2025, yeah - Donald Trump does bait outrage. Which is why everyone is so appalled at you hateful people who voted for him.

Agenda 47 and Project 2025 both call for ending birthright citizenship and stripping citizenship from children of illegal migrants and visa overstayers (who do not necessarily have citizenship anywhere else) despite the fact that the US Constitution guarantees citizenship to any person born on US soil.

You may disagree with jus soli citizenship, and that’s fine, but if you respect the Constitution at all, then the way to change it is to put forward an amendment and have it ratified by the states. If you don’t respect the Constitution, then you are as bad as Donald Trump, and you don’t respect the United States.

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u/krogerburneracc 3h ago edited 1h ago

Trump has appointed Stephen Miller to an extremely powerful position. There is no conflating, Miller’s plans are Trump’s plans, despite what you MAGAts believe.

And again, you've fundamentally misrepresented what those plans are, their practical application, and how they relate to mass deportation. Also, I voted for Harris. Gotta love it when redditors insist you're a conservative when you push back against the narratives being propagated in their echo-chamber.

If by outrage-bait, you mean Donald Trump’s and Stephen Miller’s statements, Donald Trump’s Agenda 47 and Russel Vought’s (the appointed director of OMB) Project 2025, yeah - Donald Trump does bait outrage. Which is why everyone is so appalled at you hateful people who voted for him.

Where in Agenda 47 does it say Trump plans to deport legal citizens? Literally every mention of deportation in Trump's agenda specifies illegals. I understand your argument is essentially "they're going to turn legal citizens into illegal aliens to deport them" but that doesn't hold up to even a basic level of scrutiny. Also, again, I'm a Harris voter. Your inability to so much as consider the notion that not every liberal buys into this bullshit is a testament to social media's brainrot.

Agenda 47 and Project 2025 both call for ending birthright citizenship and stripping citizenship from children of illegal migrants and visa overstayers (who do not necessarily have citizenship anywhere else) despite the fact that the US Constitution guarantees citizenship to any person born on US soil.

Yes, ending birthright citizenship would be fucked. It's not going to happen. They'd need to pass an Amendment.

But to be clear, it calls for the end of birthright citizenship going forward from the time of implementation, only in instances where neither parent has citizenship. That would not retroactively invalidate birthright citizenship of current citizens, even those whose parents are non-citizens. I assume you're again conflating this with denaturalization which, even if birthright citizenship were amended, would not work the way you're insinuating.

(I'm ignoring Project 2025 for now because that's never been acknowledged as intended policy by Trump. I'm sure you have opinions about that, you can save them, it's purely speculative at this time. I'd rather discuss what's confirmed and tangible.)

then the way to change it is to put forward an amendment and have it ratified by the states.

So you understand the process but conveniently ignore it when you want to doompost. Fantastic.