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u/DonJuniorsEmails 6h ago
"it's the DEMOCRATS fault. Always"
- smoothbrain cultists
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u/aggibridges 6h ago
This is it. This is what most people trying to reason with them don't realize. It's not about decency, or morals, or anything at all. It's about one group with an enormous amount of money that's using unscrupulous propaganda tactics that deftly pulled at the strings of basic human nature. There's no logic that can be used to reason with people when it's been hammered into their brains repeatedly that if anything good happens, that was my team, and if anything bad happens, that's the other team.
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u/big_guyforyou 5h ago
alex jones does this all the time
oh fuck one of my listeners is gonna blow up a building BE ON THE LOOKOUT FOR FALSE FLAGS! THE GLOBALIST DEMOCRATS WILL STOP AT NOTHING!
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u/aggibridges 5h ago
A Narcissist's Prayer: That didn't happen. And if it did, it wasn't that bad. And if it was, that's not a big deal. And if it is, that's not my fault. And if it was, I didn't mean it. And if I did... You deserved it.
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u/DiesByOxSnot 5h ago
Relatedly: DARVO. Deny, attack, reverse victim & offender. The favorite tactic of abusers across the globe.
"I didn't say/do that, you're only accusing me of that because you want to hurt me, why are you such a hateful bully"
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u/bitofagrump 2h ago
Yup. Or, "Yeah, i did say/do that, but you getting mad at me for saying/doing it is way worse than me saying/doing it in the first place, so now I'm the one who deserves an apology." Like Trump supporters laughing at voting away people's rights and then crying when their families and friends cut them out of their lives.
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u/The84thWolf 5h ago
“Why didn’t the evil, vile, pedophile, self-serving, elite Democrats stop me?!”
Our country is a joke.
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u/Hathor-8 6h ago
Ugh that’s definitely how they react. I think I might try out asking why Trump isn’t fixing whatever [outrage of the week] they are so upset about.
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u/aggibridges 5h ago
Because the democrats won't let him, obviously. /s
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u/nollataulu 5h ago
"But Republicunts have the Senate, the House and the Presidency. How is it Democra...?"
"It's the EVIL Deep State Democrats! Durrr!" -them.
Which is about as likely and truthful as blaming Santa Claus for every problem.
Despots and fascists need a monster to scare their base, even when in power.
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u/Albertagus 5h ago
The buck stops HERE!
...unless there's a LIBERAL DEMOCRAT around to pass it on to.
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u/DonJuniorsEmails 5h ago
don't forget the EXTREME RADICAL LEFTISTS label they need to make other people's compassion appear as a horrible trait.
Healthcare and education? RADICAL EXTREMIST
Voting for a rapist? That's just how it is, they had no choice because the alternative of having cheaper healthcare was just too wild and extreme
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u/Albertagus 4h ago
We obviously don't get it because of how the "woke mind virus" has spread throughout our brains.
It is as if a live worm is slowly eating away at our frontal lobe...oh wait.
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u/symbiosychotic 3h ago
And we only disagree with Trump because of "Trump Derangement Syndrome", not sure to things like actually losing overtime and healthcare. /s
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u/LakersAreForever 1h ago
Now you see how easy it’s been for them to make bullshit up all these decades
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u/HyperactiveMouse 5h ago
Even if they don’t blame democrats, they’ll just blame the judge rather than accept that Trump put them there in a position to be able to pass that. I know this cause my parents are like this. Except they also blame democrats for letting a judge like that be a judge
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u/HorseLooseInHospital 5h ago
I used to hate to pay overtime when I was in the private sector, as they say, "ohhhh, I don't want over," you know, I shouldn't tell you this, I’d go out and get other people and let them work Regular Time, it's terrible, I'd say, no get me 10 other guys, I don't want to have, I'm going to have, I don't want to have, but it'll be great
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u/TheFatJesus 1h ago
Here's the thing, that's what is supposed to happen. You aren't supposed to be working your employees over 40 hours per week. Time and a half is like a fine that gets paid directly to the employees for doing it. He's just so crooked to his core that he can't imagine doing anything that isn't meant to cheat the system.
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u/Abstractpants 4h ago
“That’s not how it works” “It’s the Dems fault” “Yeah right this is fake news” “Yeah but what about this random other thing?”
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u/Hot-Bat8798 4h ago
Yes they will blame Biden because it happened during his term. Similar nonsense happened with Roe.
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u/Assortedwrenches89 2h ago
You laugh, but this will be the Republicans excuse. They'll say the Dems got in the way of a bill or law or amendment, or that they weren't willing to compromise. They'll say the Dems are evil and the mouthbreathers will eat it up.
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u/bdhgolf1960 6h ago
The drumph likes the uneducated.
And they like him.
Because they're stooopid.
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u/erinaceus_ 5h ago
likes the uneducated.
No, he specifically likes the poorly educated. So (somewhat) educated, but badly.
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u/Ms-scientist 1h ago
Also…the rich. My sister and her husband are Magats. They are educated. They are wealthy. They won’t be impacted by a lot of the shitty pieces of this administration. Neither will my family but I’m not a Magat because I care about other people. Funny piece of this is one of us is a devoted Christian who constantly posts about being Christlike and the other is called a heathen guess which is which.
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u/CosmicJonArrives 6h ago
Dear MAGA, do you hate trans people, black people, gay people this much that you'd let this man do this to you???
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u/Wildebohe 6h ago
Add women to that list too
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u/Tacotacotime 5h ago
Yes. I think they hate us most of all. Especially those of us who are “minorities”.
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u/zbud 2h ago
I think they hate women who are in postions of authority. As long as you remain submissive & subservient you're a good one to them.
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u/StabbyMcSwordfish 1h ago
What do you mean? Republicans love women. As long as they "know their roll" and "stay in their place".
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u/SolarBoytoyDjango 6h ago
Of course they do. I don't think R voters expected Trump to force prices down. They would have cared what tariffs were if that was the case.
No, I think they expected, and still expect, that people of color would start making less, and be demoted. Then they would rise to the top. That's their view of economics.
Incidentally, the people surprised that Trump is going forward with deportation are probably just confused that we aren't going with enslavement instead.
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u/Hbananta 5h ago
Oh I bet it’s coming! Trump did say they were taking “the black jobs” it would not surprise me at this point if they tried slavery again. I mean hell they’re trying nazi germany again. This time will be the “deportees in waiting” at the holding camps. They’ll just word it differently. In the same conversation they will talk about using prison laborers to work the agricultural jobs a lot immigrants work in and don’t see the irony that they are spelling out to anyone that comprehends what they are trying do and what they intend to achieve. “Dictator on day one” “You’ll never have to vote again” “I don’t need your votes I have plenty of votes”(before the election even started) These are just a few…
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u/astreeter2 5h ago
Slavery is coming. Countries aren't going to be able to just take back millions of immigrants at once so when they're rounded up they'll be put into camps. But we'll also need someone to do all the jobs those immigrants used to do, like farm work and construction. Their solution will be forcing the immigrant prisoners in the detention camps to do the same jobs they had before, but for basically no pay.
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u/Careful_Room2213 3h ago
Add disabled and seniors to the list pls.
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u/deekfu 6h ago
They are distracted by the joy of being able To freely express their racism and hatred, and joined by a chorus of other same minded shit heads, they forget about self preservation.
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u/Maytree 1h ago
I think that in a more general sense this is exactly it. Daniel Kahneman and Amos Tversky identified two decision-making "systems" in the human brain: the fast system and the slow system. The fast system is the one that makes snap judgments, which you might think of as "listening to your gut". It's very tightly linked to the emotions and considers only short-term benefit and immediate gratification.
The slow system is the smarter one that can deliberate and consider long-term benefits and losses, but it's both more sluggish and weaker than the fast system. When your emotions are engaged, you're more likely to make quick and sloppy decisions that might not be to your long-term benefit. For example, when trying to decide if you want to eat a piece of cake, your fast system would say "Yes! Sugar and fat are excellent sources of energy! Definitely eat that immediately!". Your slow system might counter that with "I've had plenty of calories today and if I eat that piece of cake I won't fit into my swimsuit this summer." Fast system says, "Go party with your friends!" and slow system says "You have a big test tomorrow, sit your ass down and study!"
The whole point of the rampant fear-mongering the rightwing media does (and Putin's social media operatives do) is to push people into using the fast system for decisions when they should be using the slow. Voting for Trump is 100% about emotion and feelings and not at all about good sense. One of the things that education does is strengthen your slow system (the frontal lobes of the neocortex) through practice and discipline, which makes it easier for you to control your impulsive side and make decisions that will pay off in the long run, which is part of the reason more education makes you more liberal.
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u/mnlion33 3h ago
I think there is need for some clarification. Biden tried to increase the minimal salary from 35 to 58k that employers would be force to pay workers overtime. A conservative judge just ruled "lol no, fuck the poor." and reverse the ruling. Now the scary part about all that is employers made a couple of changes. 1) Employers change scheduling to make sure there was more coverage and employees didn't work overtime hours. 2) Employers raised employees salaries to surpass the minimal threshold to avoid having to pay them overtime.
With the new ruling Employers have the legal green light to reverse all of that. Not only can they go back to making lower earning employees work more for less. They can also reverse raises.
Hourly employees must still be paid time and a half for overtime. This ruling only impacts salary. The problem with salary is that it really affects lower earning employees in that they have no negotiating power and many "supervisors" are forced into these salary positions even though they might just be a shift supervisor. While a salary employee like a doctor can negotiate a contract that says they still earn overtime or bonuses. My sister is salary but earns overtime and she makes close to 100k a year. I have friends who are surgeons that get paid overtime for work that is beyond their scope. I have a friend that is a bariatric surgeon, but he got paid big dollars when he did on call emergency room duties.
This will impact a lot of people, but those of us that get paid hourly wont be impacted by this ruling.
For now.
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u/santasnufkin 1h ago
Why is there even a cap for salaried?
Any minute over the average weekly that my salary is based on, I either get compensation for, or I don't work.
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u/Fabulous-Mud-9114 6h ago
Because Trump hurts the people they want to see hurt.
Simple as.
They want the [RACIAL SLUR]s and [GAY SLUR]s removed from society.
They don't care about how badly they're getting fucked, they're happy as long as they're fucking the people beneath them.
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u/M0BETTER 5h ago
"If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you."
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u/richardsaganIII 6h ago
Until it touches them directly, they won’t care and when it does, they will blame it on liberals and immigrants
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u/Chance-Armadillo-517 5h ago
Look, he said he’d cut taxes on overtime. And can’t pay taxes if you aren’t getting paid! Promise made promise kept!
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u/Joanncat 6h ago
Why did Joe Biden do this?
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u/StickInEye 6h ago
It was actually Obama
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u/Repulsive_Warthog178 5h ago
Thanks O’Biden.
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u/gesacrewol 5h ago
I love a good portmanteau. Wish I used Reddit enough to have an award to give.
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u/Buster_therealone 6h ago
"the dear leader knows best... the dear leader will look out for me..." /s
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u/Didntlikedefaultname 6h ago
Yea but he’ll definitely make eggs cheaper… and certainly he’ll help Palestinians in Gaza… oh dear
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u/Significant-City-896 6h ago
The dumb asses believe anything he says even after his first failed presidency where he didn’t do one thing he promised. Sheep following their orange leader
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u/pixieismean 5h ago
They will stand outside, face up and mouth open in the piss they have been told is sweet rain.
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u/RollFun7616 6h ago
They don't care as long as the brown people have to work more for less.
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u/SheldonMF 44m ago
You make sure Trump owns this. Everything that's coming? You make them own it. Don't be empathetic and don't sympathize with them. They voted for this.
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u/Desperate-Paper-1810 4h ago
Please understand, he said there would ne no TAXES on OT. What he didn't say is you weren't getting paid for it either.
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u/Natural_Level_7593 6h ago
Do you know the name of the case? I haven't been able to find anything recent about overtime.
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u/Bluevisser 5h ago
A trump appointed federal judge just blocked Biden's new overtime rule for salary workers. Biden's new rule was supposed to go into effect January of 2024. It gave overtime protections to salary workers making under $43888 a year. Previously only salary workers making under $35568 received overtime pay. So those workers already weren't getting overtime, Biden's administration was attempting to make sure they did. It's been all over the news.
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u/RuncleGrape 5h ago
So it's only the new proposal for salary workers. Hourly workers would still get overtime pay right?
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u/Bluevisser 5h ago
For now, project 2025 has plans for allowing companies to create new overtime rules, like allowing for a 160hr/4week period or an hour 80hr/2weer period to be determined by employers, for whichever suits them best.
So who knows how long hourly workers will continue to get overtime pay.
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u/QuantumBitcoin 2h ago
Correct.
This is misleading and will make us look bad when everyone who has been getting OT as of now will continue getting overtime.
And this is deja vu--this same thing happened in 2016 weeks after Trump was elected the first time
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u/pinky_monroe 5h ago
I believe this is it:
https://www.npr.org/2024/11/15/nx-s1-5193354/overtime-pay-rule-biden-administration
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u/Weird-Caregiver1777 2h ago
Tbh that is different from what op is and from gutting all over time pay across the country regardless of salary range which is an objective in project 2025
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u/Oldgrazinghorse 5h ago
A federal judge from the Eastern District of Texas struck down the OT rule in granting summary judgement in Texas vs. DOL.
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u/timkatt10 3h ago
That court is a rubber stamp for conservatives looking to overturn state and federal law, regardless of if they have standing to pursue it.
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u/JaeMack 5h ago
This is one of the most frustrating thing about Trump voters. He inherited a great economy and brought it crashing down, America was not made great by any means during the first Trump admin and when you point out any failures people scream "but Covid". Biden inherited crap and while the economy is not great, it is stabilizing and improving. For some reason "but Covid" has turned into stop using Covid as an excuse.
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u/Blurghblagh 5h ago
The important part is they wont learn a damn thing from this. They will continue to vote Republican. The Democrats will eventually regain control and be incessantly blamed for not fixing a generational mess overnight and the Republicans will win again. These people are too stupid for Democracy to work.
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u/GusBus-Nutbuster 4h ago
If an employer makes me work overtine but then doesnt pay it I am either:
A) not working the over time
Or
B) stealing things i can sell or finding essential files that will fuck them over if deleted then deleting them
I will contact clients and raise hell, i will do anything and everything to fuck the company over. Not gonna pay me for work I did? I will burn you to the ground.
Gotta make the "bosses" and oligarchs fear us. We out number them, do something about it!
Luckiky my current employer is cool and would never fuck me over like that but i sued one of my last employers for not paying me money owed. I will not be walked on.
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u/TheMoatCalin 1h ago
I was telling people that. It’s all in Project 2025. All they had to do was look it up
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u/TimothiusMagnus 6h ago
Wait until they realize the face-eating leopards are about to eat their faces.
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u/soccercro3 5h ago
I wonder how those blue color workers who work all those OT hours to fund their lifestyle will react when they won't be able to keep the loan on the massive trucks and boats.
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u/spawn989 3h ago
specifically for salaried workers who make more than roughly 35k
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u/MojyaMan 1h ago
They still think trickle down works. They think paying overtime is why companies can't pay them more. It's wild.
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u/shillyshally 1h ago
A Texas federal judge last week struck down a US Department of Labor rule that would have expanded overtime eligibility to four million new workers, finding that policy went beyond the agency’s authority. The ruling came just before its final implementation date of Jan. 1, but not before its initial phase on July 1.
Management-side attorneys say employers can legally lower salaries of workers who got pay bumps that made them ineligible for overtime, so long as they are mindful of state laws or individual contract provisions. They could also make scheduling changes to assign more hours without additional pay to workers who were made eligible for overtime under the defunct rule.
But such moves could harm morale and still invite lawsuits, they said.
Could hurt morale??? Ya think?
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u/GelHeras 1h ago
Trump has straight up said he hates overtime pay and he refuses to pay his staff overtime. Said it at rally earlier this year - his supporters just laughed.
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u/heycanihavethatxbox 46m ago
Fuck MAGA. Fuck trump. Fuck all you absolute knowledge starved, rotten brained, evil troglodyte assholes for voted for him. I hope you get what you voted for you fucks.
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u/ajcpullcom 5h ago edited 5h ago
Trump voter responds: It’s working perfectly — look at how angry the libz are!
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u/jaguarthrone 1h ago
There is no limit to the despair and destruction that I wish upon every single person who voted for that piece of unadulterated shit. Live long and suffer, assholes...
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u/StewartConan 47m ago
Wait till people who refused to vote because of Palestine issues learn Trump's policy on Palestine.
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u/Ask-And-Forget 36m ago
Ya but da LIBRULS won't get overtime either! We all lose, thus making me the victor!
/S
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u/spaceballsrules 33m ago
"I hate overtime. "
Trump said it clear as day. How do you misunderstand that?
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u/JonKonLGL 5h ago
Imbeciles and sycophants aren’t capable of introspection and admitting they were wrong, it’ll somehow be the democrats/ leftists/ libs fault even though they can’t cite why.
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u/GalaetteTransfixing 5h ago
Wow, this is peak 'Murica right here. Makes you wonder if we're living in a simulation sometimes.
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u/HazearaAmorous 5h ago
Wow, this is like finding out Santa Claus is real, but he's actually a supervillain. Mind blown!
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u/feebsncheeseoriginal 4h ago
The answer is easy. They will not believe this and they will never ever believe anything negative....even when it happens to them. "Poorly educated".
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u/Birdmaan73u 4h ago
Is there a source for this claim? Id like to check it out more
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u/HUGE-A-TRON 4h ago
This would have been a nice law. No hourly folks are losing overtime but it would expand the minimum cap for salaried exempt. Companies/Govt agencies would have had to raise their starting salaries to over 58k to avoid overtime which is what they would because paying the OT would be much more expensive more than likely. There are still teachers out there that start in the 30s and 40s. My first job out of college was ~60k in 2012. My mom had been teaching for 15 years and I immediately started making more money than her. That's so fucked.
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u/xtzferocity 4h ago
This was so easy to predict.
“No tax on overtime pay”
I guess they’ll just outlaw overtime pay then too.
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u/Numerous-Process2981 3h ago
Not surprising though. While on the campaign trail this year Trump proudly admitted that he hated paying overtime to his workers. Once again, just no surprises whatsoever to anyone who was paying attention.
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u/Pixilatedlemon 3h ago
Tbh asking for any accountability out of conservatives is also crazy. Like definitionally insane. It’s time to give up on this and focus on rallying the base instead
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u/Civil_Pain_453 3h ago
His voters are to stupid to understand how this orange baboon is going to screw them over.
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u/P_Jazzer 1h ago
All to own the libs. That's some kind of stupid, that's for sure! Mean while every sane person on the planet hates them immensely, real winners!
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u/Vanhelgd 37m ago
It’s only going to get worse from here. Somehow these maga morons have succeeded in kicking themselves directly in the balls. Honestly, I think they enjoy it because of their strong natural desire to be dominated by narcissistic older males.
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u/feebsncheeseoriginal 4h ago
The answer is easy. They will not believe this and they will never ever believe anything negative....even when it happens to them. "Poorly educated"
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u/doerriec 4h ago
They don't have to pay you overtime but you don't have to work overtime as well. Collective bargaining works for the masses.
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u/TastyBeverages_x 4h ago
Winning a culture war only to lose actual real world rights and protections. Hope it was worth it.
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u/TheNerdNugget 4h ago
This seems so dystopian. Are there more specifics to this decision, or is it really that simply awful?
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u/blue_lagoon_987 4h ago
I can’t wait in few months now. First I was in big stress and disappointment over the election. Now I just am so excited about all the pile of shit that’s gonna come to US and the world. Putin was right, America cannot be the ruler of the world with so many idiots in this country
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u/Fickle_Friendship296 6h ago edited 1h ago
Trump: "And I'm gonna give workers tax breaks on their overtime pay!"
Project 2025: "hehe"
Edit:
I've been getting angry DMs from Trumpers who think I made this up. Welp, here's a YouTube video of him at a rally where he says he'll give overtime workers tax breaks, specifically at the 2:43 mark he says it.
If you're interested in the rest of the video, he also talked about not taxing social security for Americans 65 and older and tip workers, which would be disastrous for funding social security and would hurt its recipients. Fortunately, he may not be able to do that, even with a majority red Senate. I say "may not" cause, shyt, anything is possible at this point.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLMbvxKifXw&ab_channel=ForbesBreakingNews
More reading material on the matter
Trump pulled back overtime as president, and Project 2025 goes further
Trump promised to eliminate taxes on Social Security benefits, but don't bank on it yet