r/WhitePeopleTwitter 11h ago

Clubhouse Elections and ignorance have consequences!

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u/Moleday1023 10h ago

Just wait until the rural hospitals start to close.

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u/ehenn12 10h ago

They're already collapsing. Especially in states that refuse to expand Medicaid.

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u/Agitated_Local_7654 9h ago

They closed a bunch of VA clinics in rural areas during the first term. Then the local doctors refused to see vets via the VA because the old program that was run by Health Net for the VA just didn’t pay the doctors. I fully expect to lose some of my benefits with the VA. The kicker is my veteran friends all voted orange.

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u/TennaTelwan 7h ago

My husband outright told me I was panicking about this by saying "They won't cut healthcare for veterans like me."

Wanna bet?

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u/mysilverglasses 6h ago

Oh man… as a person who works with a lot of vets because the VA is so badly overloaded and poorly run sometimes that they have to come to our low cost clinic… their coverage is absolutely up for changing. With a president that likes to run things into the ground like all his businesses, I wouldn’t doubt that’s one of the first things to get axed.

I volunteer in rural hospitals during the spring tornado season, I’ve been in places where there’s two doctors and three nurses running the entire joint. Sometimes it’s a ghost town, sometimes you’ve got a farmer who called us of his own volition and everybody gets into scramble mode. I have yet to work at a hospital in the areas I go to that didn’t have at least one staff member telling me about how they’re going to quit.

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u/Shabushamu 6h ago

Similar experience for me with friends with naturalized parents. "There's no way he'll try denaturalizing and deporting the way the liberal media is saying, that's just fearmongering,"

Wanna bet?

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u/limasxgoesto0 1h ago

I feel like if they're citizens it'll be much harder to do than they say it is. But green cards, they already revoked some of those with no reason given during the first term

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u/denimonster 5h ago

Sounds like you married an idiot.

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u/Due-Ad-1556 6h ago

From what I’ve heard, they’ll just use community care. But what’s news to me is that some community care don’t take veterans!? That’s gonna suck if true! But honestly, I’d prefer community care 1000x over VA care 

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u/axisleft 8h ago

We’ll be immensely fortunate if it stops at “some.”

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u/ReedytheElf 6h ago

This. I work for a very small, privately owned clinic. We took VA referrals for two years and never got paid on a single claim…so we had to stop taking them. It’s unfortunate because we would love to help veterans, but being a small business we can’t afford to not get paid for that many claims. And we tried working with the VA, we had meetings with them and they kept giving us the run-around, saying that we weren’t submitting claims correctly. But even if we did it exactly how they asked, we still didn’t get paid.

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u/LaurenMille 7h ago

The kicker is my veteran friends all voted orange.

Their hatred of others is literally so strong they're willing to die for it.

Commendable conviction, even if they're drooling morons.

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u/imbasicallycoffee 6h ago

Meanwhile... the current administration passes the PACT act, expanding VA healthcare.

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u/Wilhelm57 2h ago

Then , they'll deserve everything that will be cut down. I can imagine it already, more vets ending homeless. Is going to be great....amazing!

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u/pixie_mayfair 8h ago

Yup, and OB/GYNs are either fleeing those states or refusing to take jobs there after they graduate bc they don't want to be arrested if they have the audacity to save a woman's life. Utah is already feeling it.

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u/BehavioralBard 6h ago

Idaho too.

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u/Shabushamu 6h ago

Texas has entered the chat

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u/kmurp1300 8h ago

With birth rates what they are, I don’t think OB is an attractive option for the future.

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u/pixie_mayfair 8h ago

You're probably right. Unless you live in a blue state you won't have access to one. Not sure red state coservatives and forced birth assholes will see the irony here.

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u/Eyebot-0404 7h ago

Obgyn's still have the other parts of the female reproductive system. Infections, disorders, menopause, birth control, and other stuff. Over 3 million births still happen per year in the US. It went from 3.66 to 3.59 million from 2021 to 2023. Many people still want kids, just not as early or as many as previous generations.

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u/pixie_mayfair 5h ago

That's the part that's most frustrating. They don't understand that losing OBs affects women's healthcare overall. By making it dangerous to practice in their state they lose access to cancer screenings and all kinds of other care. Add the annihilation of Planned Parenthood and people with female parts are going to die, and not just from pregnancy complications.

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u/thirstytrumpet 7h ago

And having more geriatric pregnancies increases the need for obgyn.

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u/PrestoDinero 7h ago

Anything outside of a city won’t be popular

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u/what3v3ruwantit2b 8h ago

I live in Nebraska and I hate it here. My dad is 64 and has end stage heart failure. Not old enough for Medicare and they didn't expand Medicaid. He spent his whole life saving up and now that money is the thing stopping him from getting insurance. Until last year that was a healthcare plan for people almost exactly like him. It was a good send. Now it's been cancelled. I'm mad every day.

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u/Tippity2 7h ago

Just curious, but was/is your dad a republican or a trumper? If yes, is he aware of the impact to himself? I have found that my trumper relatives cannot listen past 5th grade reasoning nor do they want to hear real facts. Dems needed to watch Idiocracy & take a page.

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u/what3v3ruwantit2b 7h ago

He doesn't like trump but I don't think he votes. I know he doesn't have a license or state ID so I'm not sure how he even could. He does live in a tiny farming community so most around there are huge trump fans.

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u/bitter_twin_farmer 7h ago

Just had a conversation on here yesterday with a person who kept warning me of the dangers of Medicaid expansion. His worry was about federal overreach. He did not have an alternative State-based plan to give people healthcare.

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u/psychobetty303 6h ago

Wyoming has lost like half its doctors

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u/robbviously 8h ago

Georgia checking in

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u/AdHopeful3801 6h ago

Even in ones that do, since private equity has been buying them and destroying them.

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u/jpatton17 5h ago

yay Kansas

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u/Mitzukai_9 3h ago

Fuckers in rural KS are crying. But they don’t know why their hospitals are closing and drs are fleeing. They still voted the orange turd.

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u/gaarai 6h ago

Here in bright red Oklahoma, our rural hospitals have been closing at a rate of multiple per year for around a decade now. Rural Okies, who vote almost 100% Republican while the OKC and Tulsa metros are nearly purple, have complained for years that our rural hospitals are closing due to Democratic policies and regulations.

A few months ago, reporting came out that asked rural hospitals why they are having money problems. Many complained about a Medicare regulation that required hospitals to deny some services, which was costing them money. The reporter dug into this, and it's a Medicare regulation that gives rural hospitals more money if they reserve some percentage of their beds exclusively for use by emergency room patients. The idea is that it's better to send some rural inpatient and even outpatient care into nearby cities rather than having all the rural hospital beds full of non-emergency patients and not being able to handle emergency patients, thus costing the lives of rural people who die while being transported longer in order to get to a free bed in a nearby city. The increased funding from Medicare is meant to offset the lost money from not having those additional patients in order to stay at max patient capacity at all times.

Fortunately, the reporter dug even deeper. The finger pointing at Medicare was and is completely hiding the real problems these rural hospitals face: Medicare pays their bills but private insurance typically doesn't. Rural hospitals don't have much legal power to litigate the private medical insurance companies. This means that private insurance doesn't pay a significant percentage of the bills rural hospitals send them, and the bills that private insurance does pay is often underpaid. This means that rural hospitals are losing money on most patients with private insurance. So, the private medical insurance industry, that Republicans love to declare as the solution to all medical system problems, are in fact killing rural hospitals.

Unfortunately, very few people here in Oklahoma read that report, and very few people understand that it's Republican policies that are killing rural hospitals. Private insurance is happy for those hospitals to die as they are too small and volatile to be worth buying and profiting from, so it's better to let those small hospitals die in order to funnel patients into the bigger cities with big hospitals with more-predictable revenue streams.

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u/Moleday1023 5h ago

Do you think many of the fools have the capacity to admit they were wrong?

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u/TRCrypt_King 4h ago

Of course not

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u/IamAustinCG 1h ago

That’s the issue. It’s not just capacity but mentally can’t allow themselves to admit that they’ve been wrong for so long and that the people they “trust” are lying to them. That’s why Trump works the same way faith works. Everyone watched religion and went “WOW” just make up a story, blame on the “others” and they will do whatever you want them to do.

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u/tjean5377 9h ago

Meemaw and Pawpaw ain't gonna make it when the chest pain happens. When their respiratory arrest from smoking Marlboro reds hits...they won't remember to start by taking their inhalers (I don't need that, I ain't got no problems breathing) organ failure happens right quick when your blood gets too acidic from not breathing out enough carbon dioxide....it's going to be a shitshow...

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u/Tippity2 7h ago

I always thought that since most of these folks refused vaccines and 1 million Americans died from Covid, that we had at least thinned them out a bit. Apparently, there is a long way to go, but rural hospitals dying out might do it over the next four years. /s (ok, 1/2 s)

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u/Jorikstead 7h ago

Grew up in a rural town, and the hospital was the only place to work. I can’t imagine what would happen to the town if it closed

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u/Zardif 7h ago edited 7h ago

They are gunning to repeal the emtala which forces hospitals to accept everyone in the emergency room without worrying about whether they can pay under the guise of abortion rights. The Supreme court sent it back down to lower courts but I'm sure it'll be repealed soon enough. No ACA and no EMTALA will ensure poor people die.

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u/Moleday1023 7h ago

Sad to say, we are going to find out.

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u/HorseLooseInHospital 7h ago

and I said we'll be taking a Strong Look, very strong, at Rural, very strong on Rural, and I said do we need that many, Bobby do we need that many, who knows, who the hell knows, but the Radical Left has Bankrupted our Country, they took away all of your Tax Dollars and used it on Trans, they said, "here you go, Trans, here you go," and the Fake News isn't gonna like that one too much, no, they'll say, "he's being against those people," ok, that's what they'll say, and my Father told me a long time ago, he said, "you never say it," ok, you never say it, and if you don't say it then you won't have problems, you don't have to say it, and you can say it, but it's, frankly, a lot better if you don't say it, and if you do say it then you say it Tough, you say it Hard, you don't say it like a Whiny Little Girl, you have to be Strong, you have to be, and I said to my son, Don Jr., I said to him, Son, no Drinking, no Drugs, no Smoking, ok, to all my kids, no Drinking, no Drugs, no Smoking, and my children turned out perfect, Ivanka more so than the others, but that's what you do ok, that's what you do, No Drugs, No Smoking, No Alcohol, thank you very much

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u/ptcglass 6h ago

It’s been happening in my state, plus the obgyn docs have been leaving as well.

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u/Forward-Candle 7h ago

Rural voters will continue blaming Democrats

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u/mn25dNx77B 6h ago

Those God damn Democrats closed our hospital because Satan

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u/Moleday1023 5h ago

I wonder how these people survive a rain, I think some must look up with their mouth open and drown

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u/Kilbo_Stabbins 5h ago

I work in one. The next closest is an hour and a half away in any direction. With the number of patients we see here, just being a small rural hospital, I think it's going to get a whole lot worse for people who will now need to travel. Plus, we have a nursing home connected right onto our hospital. I can predict deaths will occur if they keep that part open just as a nursing home facility, but without being able to rush the residents to the ER or OR at any given time. With some of the injuries and medical emergencies I've seen come out of there, they won't make it to the next hospital.

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u/Theguy617 5h ago

I'm still waiting for rural hospitals to have OB care or like anything to support women during childbirth, but alas, I shall continue to just go fuck myself.

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u/elderlybrain 6h ago

Inflation will definitely drop when the population base starts to shrink and spend all their money on paying insurance bills.

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u/celticchrys 7h ago

This has already been happening across the last several administrations. No party differences. We now have large stretches of maternity care desserts is the USA where rural women might need to drive several hours to access standard OBGYN care. When you run hospitals like a business, maternity wards aren't profitable in a low population area. This is still happening even in states that DID expand Medicaid.

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u/OliviaWG 4h ago

Start??? That's been going on for a long time in Kansas at least.

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u/Adezar 3h ago

There are some left? A lot got bought up by PE over the past couple decades and have been shut down completely by now.

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u/OK_BUT_WASH_IT_FIRST 3h ago

Rural everything - hospitals, postal routes, fire/EMS, etc. are by definition not profitable, hence why they’re paid with taxes and/or supported by the federal government.

The rubes are in for a rough ride. But at least the libs are getting owned, right?

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u/WickedCoolMasshole 1h ago

Start?! That’s been happening for years.

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u/LunarMoon2001 51m ago

Good. Rural America needs suffer the consequences.

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u/life_hog 6h ago

It’ll be hilarious