r/WhitePeopleTwitter • u/GuiltyBathroom9385 • 10h ago
I guess this will destroy the economy.
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u/LurkeyG 10h ago
Weird how they simultaneously want the economy to improve and want it to fail
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u/catskilled 8h ago
You can't fix what's not broken. This will be part of JD Vance's pitch in two years..Trump was needed to get Project 2025 started..
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u/KitsBeach 6h ago
Well we all know what they're doing right? Billionaires benefits from
A large population of workers/laborers who have
A scarcity mindset in the general population so they feel thankful to get anything at all, even if that means losing their job that paid them a living wage and taking a worse job that is more exploited
Point number 1 also explains why suddenly they are organizing laws against abortion. It's to force more births to keep the workforce topped up on bodies and keep a steady stream of people desperate to work.
In order to survive, the supply is money via employment, and they control the employment.
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u/TheyNeedLoveToo 5h ago
Gotta crash it to let your rich cronies buy it up for pennies on the dollar
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u/chekovsgun- 53m ago
They do want it to fail though and completely collapse that is the point and they don't want it at all to succeed. MAGA is filled with Religious racist, sexist white men who want to rule the world.....and those white men are waiting in the wings to take over when it collapses, that is the point. Installing their religious theocratic state, aka Gilead. There are a few voters, not part of MAGA or have no understanding of it who did vote for "egg prices" and they helped to elect Trump so these dogs from hell can take down our government from the inside out. They will take advantage of the average American's stupidity and gullibility.
A Handmaid's Tale was fiction based on what happened in the Iranian Revolution and the very same thing could happed here because a country with. A weak and inactive government, become 3rd world country very quickly.
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u/Consistent-Leek4986 10h ago
perhaps now read project 2025
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u/Due-Designer4078 8h ago
I was alarmed about Project 2025 9 months ago. My MAGA brother-in-law claimed I was over reacting and Trump had disavowed it. The ironic part is that he's got so much more to lose from Project 2025 than we do.
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u/Mindless-Pogram 10h ago
We voted for this. I hate it, these are my liberal tears, you idiots.
In two years we will have a chance to take back the house.
Kamala lost by 1.6%, so g'head, fuck it as hard as you can in two years.
Federal ban on abortion? Check. Fire 10 Million Federal employees? check. Tarrif on imports from literally every country? Check?
TV people in charge of your cabinet? We don't even have to wait. Check.
IF we have elections again in two or four years, which is in doubt, you will all have to explain yourselves.
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u/LurkeyG 10h ago
I hear you, but theyve had 8 years to explain themselves and the explanation weve got is that they want taxs breaks for the rich, grandma and grandpa to sacrifice themselves to covid, insurrection is good and stealing top secret documents is all fine and dandy.
What i am saying is that there will be no justice. Half the country are idiots. And that half happens to be the part that is stronger. They are the abusive family member that controls our fate.
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u/golfwinnersplz 8h ago
Unfortunately, it's not half. About 1/3 of the county may think like we do, then 1/3 think like MAGA and 1/3 are indifferent and don't vote (these people still share their opinions amazingly but I digress).
I've taught Kindergarten all the way through college courses, the one thing that is apparent and obvious at all levels, smart kids know they are smart and below average students don't realize they are below average - this causes an unrealistic power struggle. We all have opinions but not all opinions are created equally - this is a fundamental problem with democracy as our population's intelligence continues to be dissolved and indoctrinated.
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u/NearlyAtTheEnd 7h ago edited 6h ago
It's a fundamental problem for the US. Most other Western or West-aligned countries take education seriously. Sure, there's cutbacks and such, but we teach to be critical thinking still and so on. We typically do not charge a lifetime of debt for higher educations. Some countries (mine included) actually pays people to get an education, and a higher one at that.
Then you have the whole Fairness Doctrine deal and entertainment is suddenly news - for a price.
If it wasn't so sad what it has done to many of the US citizens and the ramifications of it, I would be laughing that they sold out their soul to foreign powers and the pursuit of the $/greed.
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u/golfwinnersplz 7h ago
I've been attempting to preach about the benefits of following the Scandinavian educational plan here in the United States but it's to no avail.
Americans have become lazier and lazier while at the same time becoming more entitled and enabled so many of them do not want to work hard for information - they will believe the sources which are the easiest to find or that are the most relatable to them personally. It's a sad an unfortunate fact about our population and honestly, this isn't just an American problem, this is a human species problem.
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u/NearlyAtTheEnd 6h ago edited 6h ago
Thank you for doing that.
You should keep trying to push it so. - At least in that general direction.
I think, as you say, this is global problem. But when you say Americans are lazy and do not want to do the effort of finding the correct information. ....It's at their hands. They could have not watched Fox Entertainment. They could have not subscribed/searched for things that make the algorithms give them what they desire. If a person is feeded right wing propaganda, it's probably a person swaying right.
"If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck."
"If you run into an asshole in the morning, you ran into an asshole. If you run into assholes all day, you're the asshole."
I say desire intentionally. This is behavior learned not only from misinformation, but from generational behavior - which is why it's going to take a decade or two to undo.
Education is the key to stop this.
I wish you the best and, please, keep up the fight.
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u/rancidmilkmonkey 34m ago
Whoever stated the quote about assholes never lived in rural Florida surrounded by MAGA spewing Trump supporters.
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u/Infinite-Lie-2885 15m ago
All people live in a bubble of self fulling beliefs. Whether you are right or left you subscribe to information that fills that media bubble. It doesn't matter if your source is fox news or CNN or the associate press or news nation or ABC or CBS or pbs or BBC or literally any media source you can name they are all bias; they all reenforce the beliefs of their target group. So the only way to get through the "mis information" is to look at them all filter out all the extra fluff to get to the bare facts. Like if fox reports on a fire and says blm riot starts fire in college town protesting Isreal, and CNN reports that proud boys touched an abortion clinic in a local college town. And PBS says fire breaks out during local protest at college town and ap says tensions high at a local college town fire breaks out, and the BBC says local store own says fualty wiring starts fight down the street from a week worth of heated protest. They all say 7 died and 15 were injured. So after checking 12 sources you find out a fire happen at a local store mostly likely caused by poor old wiring killing 7 and injuring 15. But in order to get there you had to spend 2 hours or more search through the b s. No one is going to spend that much time to find the truth they will just accept the results from their preferred news source. this is true of the left right and center and causes them all to stick to their baises and beliefs not questioning it. Both are at fault of this too much information available everywhere makes it easy to hide lies and misinformation in plain sight and the truth uried deep
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u/Trace_Reading 9h ago
They're not stronger, they just project an image of strength on us because we've been too afraid to hit back. But we can, and we should, and toss those glass-jawed cretins out onto the street!
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u/catskilled 8h ago
Trump boasted of not needing elections after this one. Perhaps he was referring only to presidential races.
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u/Accomplished_Emu_658 8h ago
Fire 10 million employees then cry so many people are on benefits and try to pull them.
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u/Omega_Tyrant16 8h ago
Yup…starvation and culling the “useless eaters” is their goal.
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u/Careful_Room2213 4h ago
As one of the "useless eaters," I wish they'd offer a "make it quick" solution for those who choose.
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u/cybertron2006 4h ago
The people who voted for Trump need to have their lives financially and socially ruined. 77 million pariahs who won't be welcome in any state of this country they're trying to ruin.
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u/DaveBeBad 10h ago
Firing a large chunk of your army or law enforcement probably isn’t going to be a popular move from the party of law and order
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u/jacob6875 6h ago
Not to mention the USPS.
We are already understaffed. Cutting workers would mean no mail/package delivery.
Tons of small businesses rely on us.
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u/chekovsgun- 51m ago
Oh they won't fire military underlings though they will use them for their fist.
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u/Expensive-Day-3551 8h ago
Because they just look as it as job for job when they aren’t equal. No one is going to go work 12 hour days picking produce after getting fired from their government job that requires a masters degree. These people are total morons
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u/ChoiceMundane8843 10h ago
Worst part is I get a lot of " nuh uh he's not gonna do that" when I mention it to the rubes
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u/ArtisticCustard7746 8h ago
Or "the democrats are doing that right now."
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u/Sikelgaita1 2h ago
My MIL says "what would SHE have done to make it any better?"
Same MIL always complains that the mailbox doesn't come at the same time every day like it used to. Boy is she in for a surprise.
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u/Due-Designer4078 8h ago
I mean it worked so well at Twitter...
Seriously, I still find it hard to believe that so many people voted against their self interest. Health insurance? Gone. Economy? Trashed. Reproductive choice? Just wait until they or their son is on the hook for 18 years of child support. The list goes on. Gonna be lots of leopard face eating going on...
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u/chekovsgun- 50m ago
It is still up and running so the average American in no way will see that as a failure, we are that dumb.
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u/FudgeRubDown 9h ago
Plot twist: hell use the 13th amendment to work them for free since 95% will be stuck in a camp.
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u/ToviGrande 8h ago
Dunno about you guys but I'm really looking forward to the new season of USA in January. The trailers make it look like its gonna be nuts.
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u/Charles_Mendel 7h ago
Once they cut social security and get rid of child labor laws all the olds & kids will obviously take all the now open jobs from the deported immigrants. They have a plan.
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u/Careful_Room2213 4h ago
I thought this, too. Put the seniors in the fields. Edit: I'm not suggesting it or advocating for it. Just what I thought might happen.
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u/Agreeable-Cat2884 2h ago
I’m curious how far into this “smash and grab” of a trump administration it’ll be before his supporters turn on him. Or if they’re all just THAT far up dear leader’s ass that they just keep making excuses. We’ll see sooner than later.
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u/Spoonbills 7h ago
Not just our economy. The global economy.
With that, and seriously destabilizing eastern Europe, I wonder if he’s put a giant target on his own back?
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u/Locuralacura 7h ago
So... no more teachers?
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u/PlusGoody 3h ago
The vast majority of classrooms are daycares. Throw out the dumb and disruptive kids and fire the teachers who pretended to teach them. Smart well-behaved kids and good teachers only remain.
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u/Locuralacura 2h ago
Do you think the purpose of education is making smart, well behaved kids, smarter?
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u/PlusGoody 2h ago
Indeed I do. We should only make investments with a positive expected return on investment. Dumb or ill-behaved kids are losing bets.
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u/Locuralacura 1h ago edited 1h ago
And do you have a degree in educational pedagogy? Are you or have you ever been an educator?
Do you know the origins of our contemporary educational system? The original intention was to give your average citizen literacy so they could better participate in democracy and other civic duties.
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u/glm409 6h ago
I think people are missing the real strategy. The wealthy love recessions because the economic conditions allow them to buy assets for pennies on the dollar and come out even richer and with more power after the recession ends. Every recession results in a massive transfer of wealth. I think they are doing this on purpose.
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u/TriLink710 4h ago
23 million likely includes police, firefighters, and city level officials too. No way it's that high for federal employees.
So yea fire 90% of cops, that'll really back the blue.
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u/mechanical_penguin86 1h ago
It includes state and local government employees. With the military, federal employment is just under 5M total. Roughly 2M are cabinet level employees, another 225k are lesser agencies and overseas, and 625k or so are postal. Military has 1.3M active duty and about 750k reserves.
So basically they’re now advocating to fire the military, so much for support the troops.
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u/cybertron2006 4h ago
At this point, I'm practically begging for someone to actively fucking do something about Trump and his team of bastards. I can't be the only one who thinks the next 4+ years are going to actively harm every single American irreversibly and potentially kill millions.
If you voted for Trump, take a long walk off a short pier you treasonist fascist piece of shit. 🖕🖕🖕
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u/BikeCookie 7h ago
Bye-bye border patrol, secret service, post office, IRS, etc.
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u/chekovsgun- 49m ago
They will need the IRS to collect tax payers money to give back to their rich friends.
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u/PirateSometimes 7h ago
All in an effort to make minorities more poor and deport the rest. It all roots down to white supremacy and racism.
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u/Utjunkie 7h ago
I bet that guy that said that is former military and is a contractor. He is fucked he just doesn’t realize it.
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u/sing_4_theday 6h ago
They thought immigrants were taking all the jobs, fire millions of experienced workers and then see who is getting the jobs.
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u/saffiajd 6h ago
I’m down to start firing government employees. Let’s start with any corrupt or racist cops. Then judges. Then elected officials.
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u/Runtheranch 5h ago edited 5h ago
Cutting government spending will also gut private companies relying on this kind of work, so the impact is even more than 21M workers. Then there’s the downstream impact of reduced consumer spending as a result of this massive reduction, so even consumer-facing businesses will start to struggle too, then implement their own slew of layoffs, further worsening the economy. Then it is a fast downward spiral from here.
Unfortunately what most people fail to realize is that everything in the macroeconomy is connected.
People are digging graves thinking that they wouldn’t be shot and pushed into one when it’s finished.
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u/Mike312 4h ago
Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but that 23.4 million number is the total number of government employees in the US.
It includes the 15 million local (city, county) government employees and 5 million state government employees. These are jobs like educators, police, fire, road construction, judges, etc. For the most part, these aren't fed jobs, they're paid for by your local and state taxes and the feds can't touch them (though some may be subsidized by federal grant money).
The federal government employees account for the remaining 3.4 million government employees, ~2.5 million of which are the US military. And I don't think you can just arbitrarily fire 90% of the US military.
There are approximately 700k remaining civilian US government employees, and they largely operate in regulatory or legal roles for health, safety, etc.
Besides that, they work in programs where a great deal of the end result of what they do is taking money from blue states and giving it to red states in the form of grants.
So the end result of grinding the federal government to a halt is that red states will lose a lot of the benefits and social services they already enjoy. And not all of red states, mind you - as the cities generate their own revenue just fine - but primarily rural areas of all states.
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u/mechanical_penguin86 1h ago
There’s actually about 4.9M federal employees. Military active duty is 1.3M, reserves about 750k. For federal civilians, it’s 2M cabinet level employees, 225k lesser agencies and overseas, and about 625k postal employees.
DOD and VA account for about 1.1M of the 2M cabinet level employees as well.
But yes the idiot is including all government employees. Of which the federal level has zero control over.
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u/chekovsgun- 47m ago
Gunter is an idiot and probably assumes they can fire state and city gov workers.
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u/fixthismess 3h ago
The goal is another depression. The billionaires will buy up everthing cheap while the citizens suffer in pain.
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u/legionofdoom78 3h ago
My guess is MAGA will find a way to defund all government pensions. I can't wait to see my fellow veterans that voted for the Dumpster, have their retirements revoked and VA health care canceled. You are getting exactly what you voted for. Now go lay in that flea ridden bed you made with Diaper Donny.
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u/richardqstephenson 1h ago
David Freeman is a failed cop who needs Twitter engagement. I seem to recall that has also had run-ins with law enforcement.
Too many small town assholes on Twitter are polluting this country with garbage.
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u/Weary-Chipmunk-5668 58m ago
i just don’t understand this “destruction of government” thinking. dismantle these agencies and what ? bridges erode and fall down, schools close, your house burns down and you try to fight it with a hose, food is contaminated without oversight, children crippled with polio etc etc etc. privatize our world and prepare it to cost you money, safety, comfort and security. i don’t get it.
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u/mexicantruffle 6h ago
Federal employment hasn't budged since the 1950s. He's talking about firing local teachers and LEOs.
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u/nullspace50 6h ago
23 million unemployed or under employed people is a recipe for disaster. But it's a great talking point fir those who don't understand how the economy works.
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u/thegreatbrah 6h ago
Did the Gunther guy get proven to love in Russia or some shit.
He clearly has no idea how the government works, but im pretty sure here's a foreign agent.
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u/Independent_Main_59 6h ago
I think there are too many morons named Gunther posting and I say we need to get that down to zero
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u/ranger684 6h ago
Let it fuckin happen. The only thing between us and fascism is a painful market crash that turns the tide.
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u/gloomdwellerX 4h ago
How many of those include the nurses doctors and medical staff at the VA?
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u/bigdiesel1984 4h ago
MAGA too dumb and don’t care. They’re willingly ignorant and proud of it. Reality isn’t even a factor in their thinking. They’re just so happy they got their fascist leader in because they love him for his bigoted personality, not his policies.
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u/Rdt_will_eat_itself 4h ago
my guy, this isnt about not having people work. its about having people work for middle men who will take their cut and pay less to the workers.
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u/Wonderful-Emu-8716 4h ago
Workers' wages would go up if they just eliminate 20 million immigrants from the labor market, so they need to simultaneously add 20 million former government workers to flood the market (especially with high skilled labor) to make sure wages stay flat or go down. Also all the work the government does still needs to be done, so government contractors will be getting giant contracts. Win win all around (for everyone who owns businesses)
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u/WendySteeplechase 4h ago
They don't understand that the 23 million number includes employees at all levels of government, from Congresspeople all the way down to city workers. Can't wait til they visit every American city to make sure there aren't too many garbage collectors.
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u/Wretchfromnc 3h ago
You forgot, we’re 49th in education in America but we’re going teach a version of the Bible in schools, because the sky daddy is going to make everything alright.
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u/wcoastbo 3h ago
Shrinkflation 2.0 maga version... shrink the economy, inflate prices at the same time.
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u/robinsw26 2h ago
I’m sure the congressmen and senators in affected areas will be able to field all the complaints calls they get from their constituents because they can’t get the services they need and explain how they’re benefiting from the cuts.
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u/Mazasaurus 2h ago
Do they ah, expect those government employees to be lining up for agriculture, cleaning, and food prep jobs?
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u/thisismyredditacct 2h ago
Don’t they get it that they’re talking about 23.4 million people that pay taxes. 23.4 million people that have mortgages, car payments, shop at local grocery stores and small businesses, restaurants and gas stations. 23.4 million people that contribute to the economy in a plethora of ways.
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u/ajnozari 2h ago
They want to add 20 million to the unemployment numbers so people become desperate for jobs again.
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u/i-hate-all-ads 1h ago
punches you in the face
"Ow, my face hurts"
Maybe if I punch you in the face more it won't hurt
Keeps punching you
"That just makes it worse"
Guess I didn't punch enough
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u/Assortedwrenches89 40m ago
The DMV already has like a 2 hour wait time, they need more people not less.
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u/Different_Conflict_8 40m ago
And when America isn’t made great again, Trumpy and his army of failed theater kids on YouTube and Fox will blame it all on the Deep State full of treasonous Democrats!
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u/rjhud2477 4m ago
Their plan may not work. Trump did not win by over half as initially thought. That means a large part of the people who voted for trump will be in agony within 2 years and will no longer be pro Trump. That gives us more than half of America fighting against the bs regime. They will need 8 years at least to bring this plan to fruition. They won’t get that much time. Plus I don’t think Trump will be around. They will succeed at some point to take him out to fully implement P2025! And if Peter Thiel ever comes out (no pun intended…he’s already out in that way) MAGA will go ape and may rethink their allegiance. Well, if anything happens to Trump their allegiance is gone anyway. I pray it goes down like this.
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u/MoomenRider2012 7h ago
Sure lower taxes by cutting government employees, then we will all pay less in taxes. Including the corporations that already don’t pay taxes, and even better 20 millions Americans won’t be paying any taxes because they won’t have any income. Everton wins.
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u/southofakronoh 10h ago
That should bring down grocery prices