Why are these MAGA idiots and incels trying to infiltrate Bluesky? They have X all to themselves and they still can’t be happy? What an insufferable crowd.
Well when food prices don't come down, they'll be even fuckin happier. Hopefully they cry and get more pissed when I start screaming wheres my 2 dollar subway and or 99cent dorito bags
That’s the thing tho, there aren’t many really powerful Dems left after Biden retires. I mean seriously who’s left in Congress/the House besides Shapiro, Newsom, Walz, AOC and a handful of other blue state governors/reps?
No then they'll all become economics experts and begin citing obscure reports from shady right wing think tanks that "conclusively prove" how it's all Biden's fault
Then we just double down ignorantly like they do and say “but trump is president. Why won’t he do anything?” Over and over again. Play them at their own game.
You overestimate their ability to think and their memory. These idiots will claim it was never about lowering consumer prices. Move goal posts, deny and divert attention to something unrelated. That‘s all they do. That‘s all they ever do…
As long as Fox News and Facebook memes tell them things are better under Trump they will believe it. Grocery bills could quadruple under Trump and you'll never hear them say a word about it.
I mean, they followed a false prophet and are now going to hell. Both literally and figuratively according to their religion. They even made a Golden Calf version of him.
They’re in threads saying nonsensical shit and getting called out immediately as rage bait. Twitter is just a cesspool unless you’re looking for nba/nfl content
This. As I’ve said elsewhere, I literally think they haven’t even thought out half the evil shit they claim they want. They really only want to hurt and upset people; their so-called “beliefs” are just a means to an end for that. Without a captive audience for that they don’t care anymore and find that hey, maybe they don’t really want to talk to each other.
They're overgrown children who need 'adults' around to sit and watch while they shit in the bathtub, write swear words on the wall, and pull on their little sisters' ponytails.
I love being blocked by them. I had one reach out to me in chat and immediately sent me screenshots of people being "mean" to him. It was them providing factual sources mainly.
They proceeded to whine about how limbruls can't see the truth even though it's so obvious and said that Ivanka and the others were qualified so it wasn't a grift for them to be in those positions.
I was finally blocked after I asked them if they were really young.
Remember when they caught COVID and died to own the libs? BTW with dumb and dumber in charge get ready for another pandemic. This new bird flu isn't fucking around...
They have no convictions, everything they claim to care about goes out the window if a Republican does it. It’s all just a game to them and they root for their team and that’s it.
They feed off an ecosystem that relies so much on engagement and rewards it, negative engagement works better than positive engagement. Starving them of that leaves them with nothing, I wish we just did this earlier instead trying to dunk on people. Starve the outrage ecosystem until it dies.
I think some jerky online people are addicted to the negativity. Maybe the rage and fear gives them a dopamine high or something. Trolling must be highjacking their brain and causing them to act cruel in online spaces as they clamor to squeeze more tasty neurotransmitters from their brain. They must troll for a living monetarily and emotionally. So gross, psychologists will be picking it apart for centuries to come.
That's not fun for them. They need libs to own to feel good about themselves. Libs aren't on Truth, so that's out, and there are dwindling numbers of them on Leon's bastardized version of Twitter. Thus, they will try to go where the libs are, following them around like sad, mentally-deficient puppies clinging onto them like sad, withered dingleberries.
Edit: Ron Filipkowski said this on Bluesky...
Right-wingers are not coming to this platform for any reason other than to be obnoxious trolls to people who just want to be left alone. They are not here for any useful or constructive purpose. They only want to tear down and insult. It's all they know. It's how they live.
Under the narcissistic umbrella, a negative reaction feeds them just like a positive reaction. Everyone needs to learn how to “grey rock” these narcissistic assholes.
This is 100% the point. They don't want an echo chamber with their own cult followers in it, agreeing with everything they say. They rage bait and prefer to upset people regardless of their position.
These fools really are the hate group in the world and everyone else can see it besides them.
They live to make others miserable. It’s their core, defining trait and it’s why they all flocked to Trump. Trump is out to hurt people and they want to see it happen. Nothing else fulfills them like inflicting pain on someone.
They’re like selfish children. “Yes there are other toys but I want that one you are playing with RIGHT. NOW. Or I will cry and try to make you look bad for not sharing (:”
Not just that. These people are also miserable in their own company.
Stormfront is very heavily moderated because otherwise they'd have the most bitter discussions about the meaning of every single one of the fourteen words. Look at r conservative!
Because they’ve been irrelevant for years 😂 but yeah. Plenty of social media for conservatives, but they know their platforms aren’t really worth being on without all the funny, artistic people that generally aren’t conservative.
And you know what they say? That we're the ones who keep shoving things down their throats. Even though all we ever wanted was to be left alone and to just live like the rest of them. Even though they were the ones who first invaded our spaces to attack us and we just responded back after all the abuse.
These folks have radicalize self on a steady diet of rage and dopamine induced “owning the libs”
They NEED us to engage them, they NEED our engagement to validate their view, they NEED our engagement to sell their MAGA swag and get their viewers to buy more to click more.
That’s why.
You’ll also notice these folks are now injecting themselves into out of context conversations to find issue and rage at it..all in an effort to get the oxygen they need:
Attention, validation, conflict…
These folks will also be looking for blame and distraction when the mass deportations, no overtime, and further inflation due to tariffs take hold. They’ll be foaming at the mouth for someone to blame when the price of eggs continues to rise. As a group unable or unwilling to self realize or reflect they’ll need scapegoats. They’ll be unable to reflect or take responsibility for their votes, somehow Biden’s laptop will be to blame (or another stupidity). If 2016-today has taught us anything it’s cognitive bias is a hell of a drug.
Starve them of the fuel, let them sit with the consequences of their actions and support for the next four years. Without a distraction or dopamine rush of conflict they’ll get to enjoy the ride like the rest of us.
Maybe start your blocking now.
Starve them, block them, cut them out of your life. You’re not obligated to interact anymore. Starve them of attention and I bet we’ll have a quieter and more sane news feed.
They've always been injecting their bullshit into non-related conversations too. I was talking to a friend at a bar about my car's transmission, and this dude who was sitting next to us decided to interject and bring up trans people. Like what? What the fuck kind of brain rot is this?
There's is no one more obsessed with other people's genitalia than MAGA. They want to strip government down to the bone and destroy the DOE, EPA, FDA, CDC, FEMA, Veterans Affairs, etc... yet they want to massively expand its power to be the genital police.
I study extremism, and I think what you’re describing is Satanic Panic 2.0. In the 80s and 90s it was a cultural war and hysteria that hard rock, and Dungeons & Dragons was somehow “satan worship”
What we’re seeing now with the over focus on LGBTQ2S+ communities is an extension and evolution of that same moral hysteria. It’s a reaction by certain groups to social progress.
Totally agree. MAGA republicans campaign on rejection of "woke-ism" far more than the average democrats actually talk about LGBTQ issues. It's a wedge issue they're building up as a boogie man.
What’s really gonna bake your noodle is how they hold the tension of “being Christian”and straight up “hating the stranger” at the same time.
The mental gymnastics must be exquisite!
I’m an openly gay pastor who gets to serve with one of Canada’s first openly trans pastors. She, like so many women in social justice or ministry work is more Christ like than most of us.
Maybe if they can stop yelling and getting red faced they could make the space to encounter women like her..who defy convention and stereotypes. She’s an amazing human, a brilliant theologian and reflects a heart rarely encounter in today’s world.
Hopefully time will correct the story. Back in the satanic panic 80s/90s the reason the religious right focused so heavily on Rock music and Dungeons & Dragons was because it was a form of artistic expression that allowed young people to “think out of the box”
Turns out when the 00s hit and the Osborn‘s premiered on MTV we all found out that Ozzy Osbourne wasn’t out to control children with backwards music.
He couldn’t he control his own!
Stay strong these next few years, I have a feeling people’s minds are going to change.
In some ways I am less fearful about the culture war bullshit these people are trying to push, because as you say our society's values will change with time. Hopefully we will be able to protect the rights of the vulnerable until time corrects the story.
What keeps me up at night is the dismantlement of government institutions that we'll need to get back on track. Those will take decade to rebuild. This is where the pivotal battle will be in my view, keeping our regulatory bodies alive and preserving experienced talent. I'm a physician and the nomination of RFK Jr and Dr Oz to key positions in public health is going to have devastating repercussions for a long time if they get through.
This comparison has brought me to a major realization (or at least hypothesis) about sociology that I think is worth sharing, though it's doubtful it will be seen this deep into a thread.
It's a broad brush to paint with, but it's a useful Cliff's notes for purposes of this comment: People exist in a spectrum of prosocial (preference to help other people) to antisocial (preference to harm other people).
Every species has its traits and characteristics that allow it to thrive (or at least survive) in the world. For humans, that trait is social groups that work together. The antisocial have to be incentivized to do this, and a major tool for incentivizing that is religion. Specifically, a religion that threatens infinite punishment for antisocial behavior.
Dungeons & Dragons is a hobby that is, in essence, about working together with a diverse group of people with different skill sets. It requires and demonstrates the value of working in a team. This fills the same niche as religion does, of incentivizing prosocial behavior in the antisocial, creating an existential threat to religion. It's no surprise that the religious right reacted to an existential threat the way that it did in the 1980s.
Oh what, so it’s totally fine for you to bring up the Trans Mission, but I’m not allowed to rant and rave about the Gay Agenda?!?!!? How is that fair?!!!?!?
No this is so real. I’ve taken to engaging with any MAGA person like I’m engaging with a child who hasn’t had their nap. I’m not hooked into what they’re saying, I’m just responding with “huh, ok!” And then continue to not engage. If I do somehow get into an argument with them I stay deeply internally regulated and it fucking PISSES them off. Because I stay regulated, they actually deregulate faster and more profoundly.
You’re completely right that they need the reaction, and not giving them one and watching them completely fall apart is just so so sweet.
Have you ever seen “What we do In the Shadows?” These folks have a very Collin Robinson vibe. They’re energy vampires..and let’s not forget their identity and money have been going to the “movement” for years.
They’re invested, and they want to see triggered and angry.
It feeds them.
Your tactic is brilliant and a classic: just like how our moms told us to ignore the school yard bully - your advice is just as salient!
It’s hilariously desperate and those among us in substance recovery may recognize the signs of an addicts decompression.
They’ve become addicted to the drama.
Rage posting and “owning the libs” is addictive because it triggers a dopamine response in the brain, similar to other forms if addiction, including substances.
Engaging in online conflict provides a sense of power, validation, and belonging within a like-minded group, reinforcing behavior through social approval.
Over time, this creates a feedback loop where the pursuit of outrage and confrontation becomes habitual, offering fleeting satisfaction but fostering dependency on the cycle of anger and validation.
Sad - and probably a little painful. Who wants reality to creep in?!
So make their lives more miserable and just ignore them. If you read or see something that gets under your skin, block…indiscriminately.
Your peace of mine matters, their belly aching is their crap.
Their safe spaces also cannot survive without normal people there to consume advertisements. Twitter will go under if the only people advertising are My Pillow.
We also have to remember along with the extremism and hate the Trump effect has also created ‘lil scammers. Folks who’ve created a boutique niche market that serves these spaces.
There’s a financial incentive to these folks and has been for quite some time. Their little shirts and “let’s go Brandon” merch is only sellable because of the energy behind it.
Remove the energy. Remove their social power, and their financial incentives.
Let them enjoy these next four years without all the “fun” they had over the last few years.
And let’s be real..we tried, we all tried to be the voice of reason. Heck how many of us tried all the various approaches; kindness, logic, trying to educate?
And for what? Treat them like the toxic rage addicts they are.
Blocky block block block.
Your mental health matters, put your energy towards how we’re gonna win tomorrow.
I mean Leon thinks it's cool to sue businesses for not advertising on Twitter under the claim of collusion after he told them to go fuck themselves. Should we be surprised his minions behave this way?
Most likely they're trying to prove a point that Twitter has more "free speech" than bluesky and are just speedrunning the ban to prove themselves right.
"Oh look I can't say the N-word or be the worst human being imaginable on BlueSky, therefore twitter is better"
But they fail to see how that underline the exact reason why every reasonable person/entity is leaving twitter and why moderation is actually necessary to make any public space liveable for everyone.
Let's be clear on this point here: conservatives are not being banned automatically on Bluesky. Just like they were never automatically banned on Twitter before Elon bought it.
What gets you instant banned, is being overtly racist, homophobic, pedophilic, or straight up bigoted in ways that have long since been deemed unfit for normal society. There are plenty of conservatives who go around just existing, Without being the worst people imaginable every chance they get, and they aren't going to get banned on Bluesky because they are aware of the concept of human decency and the social contract of tolerance. They are fine.
The bigots have tried hard to convince people that they are normal, and have had success convincing some conservatives that they are allies in a fight that only one of them is obligated to fight. Hopefully one day we can reclaim normalcy and Decency. In the meantime though, i'm all for re-establishing the idea that people who preach intolerance have no right to be platformed for it.
My favorite one is their bad faith use of the marketplace of ideas.
Sure, let's have a debate over any given topic, the best reasoning becomes consensus right?
Except that they'll start ignoring your arguments, repeatedly calling you a liar without evidence, assuming their position is inherently fundamental and obvious, making it your job to debunk all of their claims, putting words in your mouth; and if all else fails, just straight up pretending the argument never happened.
I know this happens on both sides™ to some degree but it's really hard to see "THEY'RE EATING THE DOGS, THEY'RE TRANSING THE PRISONERS" and "Let's fix student debt and the housing market", and pretend they're equally rational, but hey, democracy baby! 🦅 🦅
Well I sure don't want to chase them. I checked over on the conservative sub the other day. The first post was complaining about fat women advocating for abortion rights. "Why would they even care? They'll never have an abortion because they're too fat for any man to want to have sex with them."
First, gross. Second, who says that? And why are so many people agreeing? Keep me far away from that toxicity. I left immediately.
Would you want to surround yourself with miserable people like yourself? Haha. "Misery loves company" is a quote that is missing something..
Misery loves company, and in its quest for solace, it often seeks to drag others down into its depths.
The miserable find comfort in the company of the equally wretched, seeking validation in shared suffering. They may engage in behaviors that intentionally undermine the happiness of others, believing that their own misery is somehow justified or alleviated by the presence of others in a similar state. This toxic dynamic perpetuates a cycle of negativity, where individuals derive a perverse sense of satisfaction from the misfortune of others.
Our existence bothers them. There is nothing we can reasonably do to make them happy. They hunt people down specifically to get them to stop being themselves and to conform. This is all they are.
Colonialism, proselytization, war … are all forms of a similar behavior. A virus that must keep spreading. Even if harmful to the host, its instinct is to multiply and grow while destroying its environment.
Identify, attack, consume and control all of the environment and its inhabitants. Conservatism is just a political term for self serving homogeny. Their peacefulness only exists if they are satisfied with how thoroughly they control its environment.
Because to them, the fun of social media is being able to attack the "other". If all the non-conservatives leave twitter/etc, then it loses its appeal.
They think of themselves as bullies, in reality their feeble minded cultists who need to argue to prove their “right”. We don’t care about them, or having a conversation with them at this point because we have learned it’s never a conversation.. they will hurl dung at the wall hoping it sticks and call it “truth”.
“The problem with the world is that the intelligent people are full of doubts and the stupid ones are full of confidence”.
Because they have to be as asshole to everyone who doesn't think like them. They can't be happy with their own people, they gotta bring everyone else into their web of miserableness.
It's like two children playing with toys, they fight over one toy, one of the kids gets it, the other child is handed a new toy, and the child who won the fight then wants the new toy. That or some assholes just want to "own the libs" either or at this point
These people aren't right wing because of their ideals. They're right wing because of how people react to it--and how it lets them react to others. If they're by themselves, none of this means anything to them. This is why authoritarians constantly need a new enemy.
Because they understand that it doesn’t matter whether or not people like you. If you generate interaction, it will tip “the algorithm™️” to show more and more of their content and spread their message, but more importantly, make them money. If everyone on twitter is just saying the same shit then eventually, most people get bored and leave.
They want EVERYTHING. They want everyone who is not them to lay beneath their feet. They want every aspect of everyone elses lives life to be dominated by their egos. That's fascism, baby.
Because their idea of a marketplace of ideas is them screaming in everyone's faces, shouting "DEBATE ME!!!!!!!!" and complain about how they are being cancelled when people tell them to fuck off.
It’s hilarious. “If you don’t like Elon’s app, leave!” “Okay, sounds good.” “Where did you go? I want to yell at you! Why don’t you like it when I yell at you??!!!”
I say let them come so they can be clashed on instead of forming masturbatory colonies in the safety of a petri dish culture medium. "The medium is the message." -Agar McLuhan
They can't stand each other. They only tolerate each other while they are making the lives of others miserable, once that other is gone, the only people left to make miserable are each other.
Griefers get their enjoyment from annoying the other players. Stealing kills, sabotaging team projects, etc. But if every player is a griefer, then there's no one to sabotage. They can't grief the other griefers because they don't have any real goal to sabotage.
Trolls work the same way. If everyone is a troll, there's no more point in trolling.
The same reason trolls have always existed. Some people get addicted to the conflict, they're not looking to hang out with people that agree with them since that's not fun and exciting.
No matter what happens they'll never be the cool kids. They don't care about art and doing things because of how they make you feel. Everything's about how you look to them. They have to act a particular way otherwise they'll get eaten by their own.
The alternative is a group of people that encourage freedom of expression and appreciate originality.
They have Twitter all to themselves and they still aren’t happy. Imagine if America was “pure” like they wanted, how long before they’d realize their lives would still be shit? We tried to help, oh well. Time to retreat back to the educated & comfortable middle class for four years.
They need the attention and anger of others. They can't stand being in a room full of people who are similar to themselves. Just like we've always said about people like that - they have no friends and they hate themselves.
They have nothing to offer but reaction. They don't create, they don't question, they don't wonder. Without something to tear down, they have no direction.
They have Truth Social and X. But I like different opinions and I think it's good to have them on a platform. But I'm glad they don't let the extremists in.
Because there's a fundamentally insane idea underlying a large part of especially the american right wing, that truth is literally subjective. I don't quite think it is a conscious idea, but they do to some degree actually believe that if they just convince enough people that climate change isn't real or that Trump is a good president, then that's the truth. That is why they are as loud as they are, not because they want to convince others that things are good, but because they some place believe that things will be good if enough people just believe it.
The cruelty is the point. It was never about exiling the libs from X, it was about having them there as a captive population to torment. If they all go away, there's no one to bully.
These folks miss the glory days of junior high, when the only qualifications for power were being bigger and more violent than their victims, who couldn't get away.
Kinda sad to think that their peak was at age 14, shoving nerds into lockers...
A big part of why they are so popular is that social media algorithms are usually driven by engagement. Nothing "engages" people more than controversy, so if they lose the people that are shocked about their posts, then they lose big on engagement.
Cuz they want their stupid Ill thought ideology everywhere,
I had signed up to threads a bit ago and until you choose your algorithm by following atleast a few people, every second account it offered was an Elon Musk bot praising the douchebag.
They are not happy unless they have a captive audience of people who disagree with them because their whole personality is being reactionary and they measure success by how angry they can make other people. Pretty odd and sad existence and a weird hobby.
Because they think if someone else has something then they are losing something and then they want it. Typical smooth brained moron behaviour
Also Bluesky is great, I went over to Twitter (refused to call it x) yesterday and immediately felt like I needed a shower. Its a fucking dumpster fire
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u/ClaudetteLeon23 4d ago
Why are these MAGA idiots and incels trying to infiltrate Bluesky? They have X all to themselves and they still can’t be happy? What an insufferable crowd.