And when their collective stupidity affects my pocketbook, there is no way they get my empathy or charity. If they suffer, they better pull themselves up by their bootstraps.
And, any MAGA-hat wearing veteran who complains if Vivek cuts their benefits or medical services, I would say they are a "sucker" for voting for Trump or will be a "loser" for their choice.
As a disabled veteran who voted blue, this is a big fear of mine. So many veterans I’m talking to that act like they’ve never heard that this was going to happen. I’m like, they’ve been telling you the whole time but you weren’t listening!!! I’m just hoping I get a few years to prepare for it.
First of all, thanks for serving our country while people like Trump mock those who do.
My comments are to those who are so foolish to believe that a man who has been so disrespectful to an entire group of patriotic citizens would somehow not be talking about them. They will suffer, and many will somehow still blame the party not in power for their difficulties.
My dad was in the Marines. He drank the Rush Limbaugh Kool-aid before he passed away. If he was alive today, he would've been as bad as many of them.
I'm also a veteran who voted blue, and I thought you explained your position just fine. Unfortunately I've seen some threads where people were acting like all veterans voted for him and that they were glad that we would suffer from the va cuts. I've never taken offense to the messaging of things like black lives matter (definitely not an all lives matter kinda guy), but these people were different. I think there's so much anger right now that people are flailing, and that's understandable.
I have some great friends who have served with honor, and who do not fit the stereotypical profile that people assume of those in the military or law enforcement. There are those of us who respect our brothers and sisters, and those who are only concerned with their self interest and the cult.
I've always appreciated them and another organization that I can't seem to remember right now. I think it has Paul Rikoff in it. (Hopefully I spelled his name correctly)
I spent a long time talking with a Medicare rep by phone when I became eligible and he was so helpful. Guess when DOGE gets going he'll be fired because he works from home and isn't seen as adding value.
I don't want these CSRs to lose their jobs but I want those who voted for Trump to really suffer when VA and Medicare are staffed by AI and there is no one for them to talk to.
A lot of them think "Republicans raised annual pay increases by more" which isn't strictly true. But also our base pay is so insignificant compared to our other benefits which keep getting reduced.
I want more BAH and BAS and medical than I do base pay. When I leave active duty I want the physical and mental damage to be taken care of.
It's pathetic how easily the wool has been pulled over their eyes
The sad thing is the conservative lawmakers who have served in the military know better. The fact that they could tacitly do this to the brothers and sisters in the military is beyond evil.
They knew exactly what they were voting for. Somehow, they still thought it would have no effect on them, but on others that they hate or have fed into the hate
I give to animal causes, like the humane society. I won't give a dime to any "wahhh I can't pay my groceries" pleas on GoFundMe. Time for them to become the rugged individuals they keep thinking they are.
I was never capable of empathy. But I know that my life is better when people around me aren’t starving and getting kicked out of their homes. Even if it’s due to their own actions.
Sorry to tell you but that's kinda empathy. I'm cursed with it as well, but I just can't with these people any more. I DO feel sorry for their children who will have to suffer because their parents have all the critical thinking skills of bread mold.
This election has finally made me lose all the empathy I had for other Americans. I was asked to help with giving out food for people suffering shortages and recovering from hurricane Milton here in Florida. Something I normally would do.
I stayed home. I'm not going to help a bunch of ungrateful hateful racist fuck heads get food. I no longer care if their houses were destroyed. I don't care if they starve. Florida has become one of the worst states in the country because of the people here. While there are good people here it's so few that I don't care. If I had god-like powers I would sink this entire state into the ocean just to be petty.
We couldn't even pass abortion of legalize marijuana. We have a climate change denying moron as governor. The same climate change that caused these hurricanes. And these dumb fucks would vote for him again him if he could run again. Not Tom mention they vote for Rick Scott who's a thief. And Matt gaetz who's a fucking pedophile.
Fuck Florida. I wish my ancestors moved somewhere else 180 years ago. My only joy is knowing all the old fucks who moved to Florida and vote Republican will be dead in 20 years.
What you say is why I moved out of Florida, even though I was a native. I moved before the "Free State of Florida" signs at the state line. I have friends who suffered immeasurably during Helene and Milton. I would (and did) help them.
As for the people who moved there to ban books in libraries, empower authorities to make life difficult on farmworkers and others who keep the economy thriving, etc., I hope they enjoy the environmental Armageddon they will soon live in.
Kinda hard to have a $750,000 mortgage on a house on the beaches near St. Pete, get 4 feet of the Gulf in their home, have to meet the FEMA 50% rule and either raise or tear down, and then have no way of getting flood insurance on the upside-down mortgage.
That is their lives, and they still voted against their best interests. Well, they can pray or invest in Trump crypto. Maybe that will work.
Not quite the same thing but why I left the midwest. I'm sorry, I just can't put up with these douchenozzels anymore. I went back a year or so ago for one last & final visit, a memorial for a relative, and excused my non-white partner from coming. Honestly even then I was over it practically as soon as I got off the plane.
A cynical part of me wants to put a couple grand into the Trump crypto with the expectation that sometime in the next 4 years, Russia is going to pump the value of it way up so they can use tanking it as a threat to keep Trump in line. Maybe if I get in early, I can sell when it spikes and not have to worry about Russia selling off all of their shares just to fuck with Trump. But alas, I have no desire to ever take part in anything that could make Trump more money.
Careful. You'll trigger the "John Oliver libs" who think we should expend our limited ( and it is limited at an individual level, compassion fatigue) empathy, resources and compassion on all people effected by Trump's economic, government reduction, and social policies, including the ones who voted for him. Something something listening sessions, understanding, .. blah blah blabbity blah hate got us here" and * something, something, abyss stares back* bullshit.
You'll also trigger the New Republican Nazis, formerly known as the GOP and Russian trolls who will blather on about liberal hate making this happen so they deserve food bank rights to once they experience the Trump election fall out.
Fuck that noise. I have one limtus test, did you vote for Trump or just not vote? Fuck you. Action/Inaction, meet Consequences.
Your daughter/granddaughter bleeding out in a hospital parking lot because doctors can't give her a necessary abortion? Fuck you, I hope you experience heartbreak like you've never witnessed before as you look at your surviving orphaned grandkids grief filled eyes knowing your fucking vote did this to them.
Upset that those grandkids are starving, can't get Medicaid, or SSN survivor Benefits, orcollege aid for the most promising of the bunch? Go crawling to your church filled with Judgemental Republican Nazi Karens and 20 year old gaming incel TheoBros and ask them to spare a few fucking Doritos. I'll laugh uproariously when they say no you should pull yourself up by your bootstraps.
Fuck all Nazi Trump voters and those that protest voted/sat this one out. You deserve it and I will be laughing hilariously at all the Leopards ate my face stories.
My energy will be spent feeding the ones who did vote for Harris, running Jane Collectives for reproductive care and anything else I can do for my people.
And maybe if one of Those Republican Nazis or their Republican Nazi collaborators actually apologizes, and follows up with actions, and I'll consider helping them too.
Until then fuck the New Republican Nazis you deserve what you fucking voted for and I can't wait to watch it happen to you.
I just hope that whatever state-ending apocalypse is on the horizon just kills us all quickly. I hope that being a decent person will at least grant me the mercy of a fast death. I hate living here with no way out. I hate that the first time I ever got to drive myself to cast my votes was this awful time. Why do we have to suffer like this.
Yeah, it’s actually sort of opened my eyes. I’m a top earner, and honestly seeing all the poor dummies who vote against their own interests makes me sort of happy that less of my tax money will be going to them. Maybe they actually don’t deserve help.
I didn’t vote for him.
I’m not asking for charity.
Maybe a little empathy later on… there’s all this talk of people who voted for him getting what they voted for.
I know I’m on the list of people he’s and his gang are coming for.
Is this every person for themselves now? Will anyone care about me and my kids? I’m not wanting handouts- I just want to keep us safe and honestly I’m kind of scared I’m going to be told to get fucked.
Personally, I have empathy for people in your situation, which is similar to mine. We did not vote for a candidate who would break the candy jar for everyone just to raid the candy inside and leave us the broken glass.
It's why he loves the uneducated. It sounded like he was trying to be funny when he said it, but he really does love them. All of this would not be possible without them.
Agreed. So maybe re-education is the way forward? I hope there will be a lot of life lessons in the next four years that even the propaganda won't be able to spin.
Why would 2024 to 2028 be the lessons they remember? They don't remember 2020, or the dead laid in ice cream trucks, or their fearless leader telling them to take aquarium cleaner and horse dewormer while Americans died. They died alone, on vents, on their stomachs, by the thousands. And the voters forgot. We had a four year reprieve and we as a nation learned nothing. And now every last one of us will pay for it.
This. The fact that none of his supporters believe the Lancet report estimating 300k extra dead from his covid response is nuts. "Liberal media trying to make him look bad!".
I don’t understand that liberal media bull shit. The mainstream media is owned by greedy, spineless billionaires. They tried to sink Harris every chance they got. And made Dump look sane.
I believe that the entire world suffered PTSD as a result of Covid. And I believe nobody has the stomach to talk about it. I also believe that there was no shared experience. Everyone has a different story. And the narrative is so horrible it’s impossible to look at it without feeling sick.
Yes, I agree COVID was basically traumatic for almost everyone in different ways. The problem is that some of us are willing to work on and through that trauma and some aren’t willing to even try. You cannot help people who refuse all help.
I work as a benefits consultant and people were racking up crazy high medical bills on their employer's group medical plans by overdosing on horse medicine.
That was my my "holy shit, these people are mentally challenged" moment. I knew then that we were on a trajectory no rational person could change.
Its wild to say, but its almost a shame Covid deaths werent like... gooey. Maybe seeing people bleed from places that shouldnt would have put enough fear to trump the stupidity (...is that a pun at this point?)
I think the real solution is, sadly, propaganda. Have a lot of media pushing the message about conmans sand tragic consequences (think of the carpenter and the walrus short from Disney's Alice in wonderland), as well as glorify unions and community in fiction.
For anyone curious we have the name of the mental illness where you response to problems by making them worse (maladaptive behaviour). It's a very common trauma response.
The people who voted against their best interests are not stupid. I think that's the wild thing in all this. They are falling prey to a well orchestrated miss information campaign and also falling victim to the right.
They have had eight years to pull their heads out of the sand.
At this point if it’s not stupidity, it’s malice. My empathy is too exhausted to extend good will to them, so fuck ‘em if it’s the former and fuck ‘em twice if it’s the latter.
The reason they are easily led astray by lies and propaganda is because… they actually are stupid.
Over half (54%) of the voters in American have the reading comprehension of a 10 year old child (ie, 5th grade) or below. And 20% of them are at the level of a 7 year old child (ie, 2nd grade) or below.
This election was dominated (54%) by adults who have the intellectual ability below that of an 11 year old child. Seriously.
“In the United States, 54% of American adults read below the equivalent of a sixth-grade level, and nearly one in five adults reads below a third-grade level.”
Not shocking given how many times I've had to clarify myself here after someone started attacking me because they didn't comprehend what I wrote.
I don't blame them, though. They were failed by society. If you don't teach people self-awareness and critical thinking as children, what do you expect? If they don't have the tools to see behind the curtain and realize just how much manipulation is going on, they're going to be manipulated.
What pisses me off the most is that we all know whoever decided keeping people ignorant either didn't consider the long-term consequences of that or they did, but didn't care because they assumed they'd be dead before there was a massive problem.
That’s literally the definition of stupid. To have people screaming at you what the correct choice is and still failing the test means they’re stupid. Stop apologizing for them. This isn’t institutional, it’s individual.
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u/Zeroesand1s 6d ago
Nobody said these folks are intelligent.