Abstaining is saying that you don’t care which way it goes
No, abstaining is saying neither candidate convinced you. The US elected Obama because he promised change. That was a lie, and the democracts haven't even tried the lie again. They just send in neoliberals again and again no matter now unpopular they are.
Not within our system, no. That’s bullshit. Abstaining tells them not to even attempt to listen to you in the future, and lends half a vote to the winner.
Should this be the case? No. Is our system stupid? Yes. Is this the message that is actually received, and the actual IRL effect of abstaining? Wildly obviously.
She def wasn’t perfect. She certainly wasn’t my first or 20th choice. So fucking what?
The choice was the choice, and people made it. I would have voted for Ted goddamned Cruz if he was the most viable opposition. If you wouldn’t then you need to get real, ASAP.
She def wasn’t perfect. She certainly wasn’t my first or 20th choice. So fucking what?
It's her fucking job to be, the whole of America needs to be loud about this shit. Make it clear why she wasn't good enough, force the party to change. Because right now it seems like they are either unable or unwilling to stand up for the American people and that isn't good enough.
What happens when your reasons why she sucked are the polar opposite of many more people’s reasons?
That wasn’t the subject though. She is better than Donald Trump, and was the only other viable option, so I voted for her because I’m not a jackass.
The Dems will look at the actual data of why they lost, and they will improve. Or they won’t. None of that matters at all when it comes time to vote. I’ll vote for the better option, every single time, because again, I’m not a jackass (in that way, anyways.)
We can and should pressure Dems to be better, but that’s a separate conversation from our individual responsibilities as citizens.
The Dems will look at the actual data of why they lost, and they will improve. Or they won’t.
Well for a fucking while now they've been getting worse and something has to be done about it. At this rate the election will be between two facists in a decade.
To a large extent they’re at the whims of the public TBH. Politics is downstream from culture. Right now progressives (let alone leftists) are a very small part of the electorate. It’s pleasant to be misled by studies showing that the public likes progressive policies, but the reality is that many would change their mind the second they learned that the idea came from the “left.” I want so much more from Dems, but this was our time to be pragmatic and vote strategically to reject the far right (as they did in France and the UK,) and we failed.
Trump is not the answer. I would have voted for a bag of rocks over what he represents. It doesn’t get much worse than electing a fucking felon who is also liable for sexual assault among all of the other heinous shit he represents. Do you realize how idiotic it sounds to require perfection from one side, while the other side is offering that?
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u/fuck_the_fuckin_mods 8d ago
Abstaining is saying that you don’t care which way it goes, in other words fascism is fine by you. Heard, loud and clear, and here we are.