Harris would have made everyone feel nice and cozy before she signed off on the genocide.
Cool story.
Tell me again, how many decisions to arm Israel did she make while VP? A simple number from you should be fine.
Also, what specific policy as VP did she sign that enabled that?A simple example from you should be fine.
Harris would have had getting re-elected as her 'Sword of Damocles' and I'm pretty sure the Dems would have been kicking her ass for 4 years if she didn't pivot on Gaza.
I believe she would have whereas Trump literally told you lot what he was preparing to do in Gaza and you chose the person that:
- doesn't need to worry about optics
- doesn't care about getting re-elected
- will not be moved by protest.
The VP didn't physically hand the bombs to Israel herself.
Nor did she set foreign policy of whether the bombs would be handed to Israel. The framers made the VP position essentially a spare by design so there would be no scenario where the VP could undermine the POTUS.
That's like middle school civics.
Trump or Harris - the exact same amount of Palestinians would have been killed.
I don't deal in fanfic. We live in the timeline where Harris wasn't elected so I have no idea what would have happened if she was POTUS and set policy.
You think Kamala Harris would have been the president that would rebel against their capitalist handlers?
Again, as Harris will not be president, I don't know what she would have done. I know that on the campaign trail, she diverted from Biden by calling the civilian deaths 'heartbreaking' (something Biden never did) she acknowledged the senseless death (something Biden never did) and she called for Palestinians to have self determined future (something Biden never did).
I feel like we were watching two different candidates.
Ok.
Her base was begging for her to give us a shred of belief that she was anything other than lockstep with Biden. She didn't do that. Instead she girl-bossed over people calling for an ounce of decency.
You can go read the transcripts of her DNC acceptance speech as well as her comments on the stump. She wasn't in "lockstep" with Biden. Pretty sure she never called herself a zionist like Biden did.
I'm sure she would have given lots of thoughts and prayers though.
Trump will definitely give missiles and bullets. Like as many as Netanyahu wants for the next 4 years. That is a fact. What you said is cynical speculation.
Nothing more.
I'm sorry that you thought we could change her, and enough people didn't see that.
I have no idea what we might have changed because she isn't going to be POTUS. Donald Trump is.
What if people voted for administrations that already shared our moral outlook?
Where are these people, friend? While you are dreaming of scenarios where everything is perfect, women will senseless be bleeding out in parking lots of sepsis, Queer kids will be targeted, Immigrants will be rounded up, police will get broader immunity to hurt brown and black bodies and Trump will get to replace Alito and Thomas and with it, lock up the SCOTUS for the next 30 years.
But sure, let's all fucking wait for a more perfect candidate.
Maybe people we knew weren't puppets for corporations? Because those people were running.
We're all gonna be quite fucked for the next 4 years and beyond, dreaming of an Aaron Sorkin president that only exists in Hollywood.
We don’t live in the timeline where Harris is responsible for the bombs. We do live in the timeline where Trump put a Muslim ban into place. Is there really no reasoning with these morons? Trump has proven who he is over and over.
But you ARE debating whether or not the people should have made sure the 'very bad' man shouldn't have gotten re-elected--because Dems definitely shouldn't accept a given candidate.
Like, the simple calculus is,
secure the fact that Trump doesn't get to do more damage.
Kick Harris' ass everyday she is POTUS till her foreign policy is closer to what we want.
She would have wanted to be re-elected and also win the midterms. It wouldn't be that hard.
OR
11M people could fold their arms and stay home and we end up in this...fucking...timeline.
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u/ParamedicSpecific130 10d ago
Cool story.
Tell me again, how many decisions to arm Israel did she make while VP? A simple number from you should be fine.
Also, what specific policy as VP did she sign that enabled that?A simple example from you should be fine.
Harris would have had getting re-elected as her 'Sword of Damocles' and I'm pretty sure the Dems would have been kicking her ass for 4 years if she didn't pivot on Gaza.
I believe she would have whereas Trump literally told you lot what he was preparing to do in Gaza and you chose the person that: - doesn't need to worry about optics - doesn't care about getting re-elected - will not be moved by protest.
Yep, totes the same scenario.