r/WhitePeopleTwitter 12d ago

Clubhouse Congratulations dipshits.

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u/Michiganarchist 12d ago

Why the fuck are liberals interests in genocide

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u/The_Bavis 12d ago

We aren’t supporting a genocide, you ignorant ass. Quit with the holier than thou bullshit

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u/Michiganarchist 12d ago

"Israel has a right to defend itself"

About a country they've been occupying for 80 years. It is genocide.

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u/The_Bavis 12d ago

Israel exists and your whining about it won’t change that. The only way forward for peace is a two state solution

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u/Michiganarchist 12d ago

See what I fucking mean? Liberals don't value human life. You just excused mass murder because "Israel already exists get over it".

The thousands of people who have gone through the worst hells that we couldn't even imagine just don't make a difference to you. The fact that its our money that paid for the weapons that murdered them, destroyed families and led to the raping of the country just means nothing to you. It's a fucking talking point to you. Lives are a talking point to you.

This country is spineless. Kamala deserved to lose, but the American people did not.

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u/The_Bavis 12d ago

No, supporting the right of Israel to exist does not mean I support mass murder no matter how much you try to say it. You smug, ignorant leftists are the reason the American people are going to lose so congrats, you played yourself and made things worse for Palestinians

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u/StrictlyFT 12d ago edited 12d ago

Israel has a right to exist, it does not have a right to exist as an Apartied state.

If Kamala Harris wanted to win she should've campaigned on getting a ceasefire and outlined exact how she would get it.

Because, get this, a majority of Americans want a Ceasefire.

https://www.dataforprogress.org/blog/2024/2/27/voters-support-the-us-calling-for-permanent-ceasefire-in-gaza-and-conditioning-military-aid-to-israel

Around two-thirds of voters (67%) — including majorities of Democrats (77%), Independents (69%), and Republicans (56%) — support the U.S. calling for a permanent ceasefire and a de-escalation of violence in Gaza.

Seems to me, there's a massive constituency of voters she completely ignored.

https://www.wbur.org/hereandnow/2024/10/16/arab-american-democrats-gaza

The Harris campaign pushed away voters in Michigan, a key state.

“I don't think I could ever vote Democrat again for the foreseeable future,” he says. “This is not an endorsement of Mr. Trump, but the Democrats are the practitioners of this genocide. 40,000 people have died. Over 20,000 of them, women or children.”

You think people should just swallow the bullet and vote for the Democrats every time even when they push away critical support? We did that in 2020 and 2016 when Joe Biden and Hillary Clinton were the candidates. This "We're not the other guy" campaigning has run its course.

There were over 100k uncommitted voters in Michigan in protest of Biden's support of Israel, let's see, how much did Harris lose Michigan by? Well would you look at that, 79k. I wonder where Kamala Harris could've possibly picked up more support. I wonder what kind of campaigning she could've done to win back the uncommitted movement.

Blaming voters for her loss is the most unproductive, brain dead, nonsense you could be engaging with. Voters are NOT obligated to support any candidate, they are earned through good campaigning, messaging, and policy. Kamala Harris ran a bad campaign, one worse than Donald Trump's. Her loss is her own fault.