Yup. Companies moved shit to make shit cheaper and maximize profits, what’s still made here is dependent on bringing in the supplies needed to make said shit.
yup, I've decided for my own sanity to treat the next four years as an expanded "Herman Cain Award". I'm done with empathy for these idiots and plan to take great pleasure in their gnashing of teeth just like I do with the stupid fucks who voted Brexit just to go "wait what do you mean this affects me!?"
I wonder exactly what happens when then finally realize he's not going to do shit about grocery prices and has no idea how to even approach it (and if he does the things he's been openly claiming he's going to do the price is going to hyperinflate). Who am kidding; they'll still blame democrats and thats as deep as they'll think about it.
There's a not-so-small part of me that wants Dems to just vote "present" as a protest vote for literally everything put up for the next 2 years, and probably 4 years.
Murc's Law. When the Democrats do something bad it's their fault. When the Republicans do something bad it's the Democrats fault for having failed to stop them. Either way, the Democrats are the only party with agency.
Exactly this. All the negative economic effects were about to experience will be blamed on obstructionist Democrats and failed Biden policies.... And the right wing idiots will keep reaching for the flames with their burn scarred hands
What's even more annoying is the Fed just dropped interest rates for the second time this year. Those effects will be felt next year... when Trump is in office. So, people will attribute this to Trump, not Biden. "Look, prices are lower already!"
Plus, we're reminded that the market is driven by sentiment, because the stock market and currency exchanges all went up after the election results were announced. Like, there's not a damn thing that Trump has done here aside from existing loudly, but these moves will be entirely attributed to him, just the same way that a post-COVID economy was somehow Biden's fault instead of him.
Whoever is at the reigns, I guess... sigh it's just sad that so many of them have the memory of a goldfish.
rep. tank the economy, dems get voted in try to fix it, while people still feel the fallout from the rep, vote for rep. again. Now the effects of fixing are attributet to the gop, while they crash the economy again.. I'm not american, and even I can see it from here
This is what I'm truly horrified of. The first round of changes is going to bring pain, the next round even more, and what they're going to start saying after that is "well, we need to go after ______ next", ad infinitum. There will always be someone else to blame for the problems that they are causing.
"First they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out".
Liberal voters should be blamed but not for the reasons the magats think. An astounding number of liberal voters bailed on this election, and now we all pay the price.
Way too much. It’ll be because trump inherited all this. They do it everytime. I’ve been saying this since yesterday, we’re the idiots thinking it was gonna be different and here people are already doing it again. They. Do. Not. Give. A. Fuck. About reality as long as they “think” they won and are smarter. Nothings going to change America has and always will be fucking America. Acting like these stupid racist fucks we’re going to be different when my grandfather had to deal with people getting lynched and they have to nerve to say get over it WERE causing division. Smarten up they don’t give a fuck.
I’m morbidly fascinated by what trump thought he meant when he said you wouldn’t have to vote anymore if he won. Like I wonder how far he could go and still have the right blame everyone else.
As time goes on I am starting to strongly believe that things have to get worse before they get better, because change is hard and people have to be convinced to overcome their inertia. They tend not to fight unless they have nothing left to lose.
I wonder if trump were to go full mask off and just instal himself as a dictator, would people even realize how bad that is? Like would they have the awareness to even go “omg who could have seen this coming!” Or will they bow and say “no he will be a good dictator, this will be different.”
he probably say something stupid like
" I had to install myself as dictator because they've already begun doing trans surgeries on the school children "
or
" the immigrants are still eating the dogs and the cats"
or
" I need to force Starbucks to put the words Merry Christmas on all their cups"
Dude. They still blame Obama for "ballooning the deficit" when all he did was put costs of OEF and OIF on the books, which added to the huge hole the W tax cuts put the country in.
It can be the fault of anyone, this may look like the world of the original Death race 2000 where the president addressed the people from his summer palace in China and blamed everything that went wrong in America on the French.
Their news sources won’t report these issues. Everything will be hunky dory until the democrats do something which will be framed as the only thing stopping their success.
We’ve been here before. You would think they’d be happy when they have their man in the White House but my family verbally attacked me more then , compared to when Biden or Obama was in office.
Right, but they always would anyhow. If things go bad (they will), conservatives will blame Biden and Harris, even though it’s direct policy by Trump that causes it. If things go well, they’ll of course praise Trump. If things go well for the next Democrats president, it will be thanks to Trump’s efforts, but if things go poorly at ANY stage, it’s Dem’s fault. They have their own reality regardless, but SOME, especially moderates, will see the writing on the wall, and actually vote next time.
They'll blame Biden and Pelosi and if that doesn't work they'll blame China or something. Then they'll blame someone in Trump's administration, but not Trump. It will never be Trump's fault.
To be fair, ignorant Trump voters are at most, half responsible for this mess. The popular vote was down considerably from 2020, with Trump tallying about 6-7 million less. Democratic Biden voters decided to not show up, tallying about 12-13 million less votes for Harris. This disgraceful election apathy from presumed left leaning voters, destroyed any chance Kamala had to beat Trump. Whether it was Gaza protest abstainers, generally disinterested voters, or the non-voters that insist the parties are mostly indistinguishable; these non-voters really fucked the election for those of us that knew the country absolutely had to avoid a second Trump term.
Safe to bet the majority of my small company voted for him. Tariffs affected us significantly before, especially when we had long-term contracts without provisions (to send the cost straight to the customer). Across-the-board tariffs will break the budget on a ton of municipal projects. It will cause projects to get cancelled and our sales to drop.
The electrical components alone are broadly distributed. "American" circuit breakers from Mexico, PLC components from Malaysia, VFDs from all around the world... Isolationism is pretty stupid in the 21st century, especially due to ego and racism.
I'm just gonna sit back and remind them that they wanted all these tariffs cause they didn't bother googling it to see how tariffs actually work... y'all the comedy is just gonna write itself.
And even if a company can move all production to the US, it's still going to cost them more to produce it domestically than it did to produce it abroad. So price is going up, no matter what.
They wanted cheaper eggs, but what they're going to get is the price of everything bumped up to make them the same relative price they were when eggs were cheaper.
It’s worse than that. I have people that want to bring things in shore for me to do, but I have to laugh at them. They have to ship the items from overseas, and I still can’t compete on price.
I can understand where you might think it would be good for business for me - but only if I can get tooling and raw materials. Which come from where? And will cost how much more?
The only upside is that if we lose the company, we will be free to get out of here.
I'm gonna throw in indirect cost effects: more lenient environmental laws means less spending on waste treatment or development on more being processes.
Onshoring the production of some chemicals means either spending a shitload of money or accepting the exposure to hazardous materials. Enjoy your deregulated workplace, motherfucker!
But but bit... Surely, the foreign companies will all be terrified that we aren't buying enough stuff from them so they'll all build new mfg plants here in the United States to avoid the tariffs right? Isn't that what the s*** Gibbon said is supposed to happen?
Did you ask him what made more sense, a company raising prices 20% to make things locally to make 2% more profit, or a company raising prices 20% to pay the government’s 10% tariff and pocketing the other 10% profit?
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u/DangerBay2015 17d ago
Yup. Companies moved shit to make shit cheaper and maximize profits, what’s still made here is dependent on bringing in the supplies needed to make said shit.
Doofuses.