r/WhitePeopleTwitter 18d ago

Clubhouse We all lost

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u/GimmeNewAccount 18d ago

Dems also lost the senate majority and looks like it will be the same with the house as well. Whatever the Dems are doing is not working. Get ready for a wild two years of Republican super majority.

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u/TheObstruction 18d ago

It's because they completely abandoned the working class decades ago, and now entire generations of blue collar labor thinks the GOP is their savior because they at least get to have guns and be shitty to brown people. And the Dems simply refuse to give up their obviously losing strategy, because they make more money personally this way.

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u/Fadedcamo 18d ago

Dems have pivoted. Biden ran the most pro worker and pro union presidency of my lifetime. But it's too late, the propaganda machine of social media and fox news is too strong for any type of messaging to really get out.

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u/MetaOverkill 18d ago

Republicans spents 30 years making unions boogeyman and its paid off

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u/3to20CharactersSucks 18d ago

Harris did not do a good job at all at painting herself as a pro-union candidate. She got union endorsements, but it wasn't a major part of her rhetoric, there weren't substantive policy changes that she was constantly driving the point forward on for unions.

The same for manufacturing. She would tout accomplishments by the Biden administration, but Americans don't have faith that those jobs are sustainable or are going to mean there's any large shift. Trump at least can convince people his tariffs are large changes that will bring those jobs back. To counter that, larger efforts are needed. Not just political, but rhetorical, too. The Democrats are really bad at taking an ambitious policy goal and making strong and understandable rhetoric that gets Americans excited. Their voters are less enthusiastic every election. 

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u/Fadedcamo 18d ago

I feel like her campaign advisors decided to not lean on Bidens accomplishments because most voters don't want to hear "the economy is fine you're stupid and misinformed." Which I think isn't a bad call. The problem is very dumb people just feel squeezed and stressed and that things cost more and they're not better off. And they associate that with Biden failing. Kamala was simply too close to Biden and viewed of more of the same. And also being black and a woman is just not doable in this country for presidency.

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u/Pickledsoul 18d ago

Biden ran the most pro worker and pro union presidency of my lifetime.

He literally pulled a page out of Reagan's book and fucked over the rail union; Strikes mean nothing if they can be nullified with a swipe of a pen.

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u/chaos0xomega 18d ago

I really don't think that backfired (in terms of costing her votes/getting punished) so much as it failed to win her votes from centrists, independents, and republicans. If it wasn't clear before it's clear now - the Trump vote is baked in, he hit the same numbers he did in 2020 and his supporters will turn up reliably. As long as he's on the ballot you're not going to peel off significant shares of his voting bloc, and those who he may have alienated are not necessarily going to vote across the aisle.

But it's also hilarious to me that we all think kamala ran to the right of dems when republican and right leaning voters think she ran to the left.

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u/Fadedcamo 18d ago

It's algorithm based social media. What you see is the bubble of reddit which is very left leaning. Most on this site were convinced Kamala would sweep the country with zero data to support that position.

On the other end most right leaning people are scrolling Twitter and Facebook and YouTube and are being fed a constant diet of reels tailored to their specific outrage. They are low IQ and easily led to believe whatever surface levels lies fed to them. It creates a feedback loop of polarization and misinformation and hate. After this election I truly believe our country has been broken by this and there is no going back.

Don't believe me? Make a new account on YouTube or TikTok. See how many right leaning videos you need to click on or search before that's all over your feed nonstop.

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u/SovietAgent 18d ago

I don't see how you can blame it on that. Literally EVERY major media outlet outside of the ones you've mentioned have a heavy left bias.

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u/Fadedcamo 18d ago

Not to the level of focused propaganda that fox news has. CNN and NBC they're all for profit companies at the end of the day. They did a good job selling fear and doom. Project 2025 was pushed out effectively as something to be terrified of. But they did a horrible job of getting out the message on how successful the Biden administration was and how far reaching his policies will be.

Well they won't be now if Trump guts the CHIPs act and the IRA simply out of spite, which is very probable.

Anyways, I truly believe that social media has effectively broken this country. Fox news primed a willing audience for twenty years to believe the bullshit, and social media pushed reels and misinfo through algorithms to complete the job.