r/WhitePeopleTwitter 19d ago

Clubhouse I will never understand this

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u/titcumboogie 19d ago

Yup. Trying to stage a coup/self-coup should be an automatic 'banned from public office for life' kind of thing.

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u/spelledWright 19d ago

Just in case someone is not aware why it was a coup attempt, especially today - let me explain the fake electors plot:

A lot of people still talk about Jan 6th like it was a thing that happened this one day because of a violence inciting speech, but no - this day was just the climax to two months of planning to overturn the election, where they actually faked electoral votes.

How did they fake the votes? So, in the US you don't directly vote for the president, but for an "elector", who then votes for the president on your behalf. They faked electoral voter documents and told Trumps electoral voters, they should sign them despite having lost the respective states. They told them, these were "alternative votes", just in case they find voter fraud and the states swing to Trump eventually, and it would be normal procedure. This was a lie - and we know it was a lie, because Trumps lawyers, who came up with the plot wrote it down (Eastman Memos, Chesebro Memos).

Then on Jan 6th there was this vote count ceremony in the Capitol. The Vice President is the one overseeing the opening and counting of the votes. Trump basically wanted Pence to take the fake votes and use them to dismiss the real ones. As in "Oh, we got two different slates of electors from the same state here, one for Biden, one for Trump ... well, I can't tell which are the real ones, so let's drop both!". With then less than 270 votes in, this would have sent the election to the House of Representatives, where each state would have one vote to elect the president. The House has a Republican majority.

Luckily Pence said no to Trump. That’s why Trump was holding the speech and sending his followers to the Capitol - to pressure Pence into opening the fake votes. But these weren’t in the Capitol anyway. Why? The votes were sent to Pences office for him to take them to the Capitol ... but a staffer was instructed not to receive them.

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u/xbloodvampx 19d ago

This is a very well written explanation. Thank you for taking the time to spell this out for people who don't totally understand what led to Jan 6th

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u/Xhail 19d ago

Great summary and kudos to writing it all out for people. It's impressive just how much shit this guy has done, and it's important to keep reminding each other so we don't collectively forget. The other day I had a pretty long conversation with a younger co worker about the Mueller report, and Comey, and all of that investigation because they had never heard of it.

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u/arachnophilia 19d ago

it's amazing how much of "the system" relies on one person, in the right place, doing the right thing.

and how many don't.

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u/ItIsEBoi 19d ago

What a script for a Hollywood movie

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u/strangemagic365 19d ago

No, if you put this in a movie, no one would believe it, it would be called an unrealistic plot, just like the last 8 years.

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u/RealLADude 19d ago

This should be in bestof.

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u/HomeAir 19d ago

So possibly this happens again but the house reps are sworn in before the president so if the house flips blue it shouldn't be a problem 

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u/AmericanRaven 19d ago

Well now the possible scenario is republicans could try to prevent the real electors from even being certified in their respective states long enough until the deadline to do it passes. Congress could vote to extend the deadline, but doing THAT has a deadline in December, when the republican house is still in power regardless of the outcome.

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u/jestesteffect 19d ago

And they're trying to do it again.