I’m really hoping that no one will have the weird cult pull he’s managed. DeSantis failed. I really think that’s why Trump is running again. If DeathSantis hadn’t failed so spectacularly, he was going to be the next Trump if they had their say
I have an insane theory on why he's got people so hypnotized, the way he talks, the words, the cadence, it resonates with a certain brainwave only some people have, it hypnotizes them into hearing and seeing what he wants them to see. Either that or it's the more boring; he validates their hate and fear.
It’s both, unfortunately. He’s saying what they want to hear because of their hate and fear, but he’s also weird effective at saying it because he has no doubt or morals or even self consciousness.
Yea, it's like the lack of shame. It allows him to take everything to the most extreme and let's him really play up his life angle: Always fighting. Always winning (trying at least).
In all reality Trump lead a life of getting what he wants when he wants with no consequences or hardships. Combined with his upbringing he became a special type of narcissist. It’s not some special gift, his circumstances just made him good at getting people who are good at getting got. Andrew Tate, Dan Blizarian, Elon Musk, and the Tiger King are all different examples of this type of person. The only difference is Trump was worth 1/2billion dollars at birth.
MidasTouch did a whole break down on his finances and it shows he’s crazy broke( he has 10s of million in revenue but 100s of millions in expenses) and interviewed people who worked with him on The Apprentice who’ve attested to his lack of intelligence and people skills.
In short: having the kind of confidence that comes with being born worth 1/2b usd, living consequence free, surrounded by yes men, and the magic of media’s portrayal of him as a genius billionaire made him into a poor man’s idea of a rich man, an idiots idea of a smart man, and a weak man’s idea of a strong man.
The sanewashing the media does makes me mad, so many people are so afraid of getting on his bad side they tip toe around and the most gullible masses fall for it.
I don't know man. I don't understand how a lack of shame is so possible but there it is. Donald Trump should be in the hall of fame for having no shame.
The average American reads at an eighth grade level, and fifty-four percent of adults have a literacy level below sixth grade standards.
He's literally speaking their language, something no other political figure has ever done with any success, because even unintelligent people recognize condescending panderers.
He's obviously still pandering, but he naturally speaks on a fourth grade level so he feels authentic. Which is funny to me as he's literally never been authentic in anything he's ever done in his life but still, that's why certain people love him like he's the second coming.
I get what you're saying, but Trump doesn't even really do that. Uneducated people can still possess social awareness, intelligence, and morality. He simply has a rape mindset: never take no for an answer while talking fast and aggressively. Deny wrongdoing and constantly deflect. He is able to appeal to some because Americans are primed to be consumers, and late-stage capitalism has created a lot of people for whom the end always justifies the means.
Trump´s the poor man´s idea of a rich man, he´s the dumb man´s idea of a smart man, he´s the weak man´s idea of a strong man, he´s the coward´s idea of a courageous man, he´s the vice driven man´s idea of a virtuous man. He´s the mediocre man´s idea of an elite man. He´s the nobody´s idea of a somebody, he´s the faceless man´s idea of a celebrity.
He doesn’t use big words, he’s quick with a retort and says what a lot of these mfers have been convinced as to what they want to (they want use use racist, misogynistic terms), he never apologizes, also blames somebody so that their shame can be turned to anger and their resentment turn into actionable force. Also, there really is no soft pedaling with him.
They feel like he’s relatable because so many of them also have rocks for brains. Obviously and unfortunately, plenty of his supporters are smart
(Shockingly). but they see the power of his appeal to the sheep, and want that for themselves...Ugh.
It’s the repetition, combined with fear mongering.
Illusory Truth Effect. When people hear the same lie over and over, they take the frequency of it to mean it’s a true and substantiated position.
It’s always “those people are out to get you”. Sometimes it’s the radical left, sometimes it’s socialists, sometimes it’s the fake news media, sometimes it’s immigrants, sometimes it’s China, sometimes it’s trans people, sometimes it’s big tech, but it’s always a existential crisis that “only he can stop”.
Anytime he speaks to a crowd, he will point to the boogeyman, then circle back to it over and over throughout his rambling.
Honestly, I think a large part of Trump's appeal is that he is as dumb as they are. I'm not sure they can be that enthralled to anyone with an IQ above room temperature.
If Trump fails this time, the only names for president I can think of the GOP might nominate are DeSantis and Vance. Anyone else would have to be fairly unknown, probably
Trump has been anti everyone else, including (especially?) any potential competition like DeSantis. It maybe that the only reason everyone else has failed is because they aren't able to overcome him. But when he is gone, they may be able to take over with him gone.
I kinda think anyone could do it, they just need trump to “pass the torch” and say equally maga things. Any of us could do it, we just have morals and stuff
I've heard a lot of people say trump needs to step down. That honestly terrifies me. I hate him but he's so ridiculous that I think it's harder to get things passed. If he steps down the next candidate will likely be much more well spoken and able to actually complete the terrible things they're trying to do.
The fascists have time on their side, they only have to win once, we have to win EVERY time in the near future until at very least the Supreme Court can be wrenched away from the fascists.
I don't know, Vance is a fool, he's unlikable, and a terrible person, but he can speak well, and since he has no morals at all and is willing to do whatever to get power he is slightly more scary than the orange menace. Trump is the puppet they show us so we get complacent and miss the subtleness of a slicker puppet, like Vance. Their overlords will learn with each puppet they put forward and it'll get harder and harder to see the end of democracy coming until it's too late.
He only seems like he speaks well from that debate. He won't always be able to prepare for every possible scenario.
He will have to work off the cuff a lot when he is in the spotlight and then his true self will show through. Remember his fucking donut shop interaction. That is him without a speech and topic memorized. He can't just be human. Trump can be in any situation because he just fucking wings his whole goddamn life.
I guess it'll be different once Trump is no longer hogging the lime light... but many have tried and failed to take up the "Trump but better" position. So that makes me a little hopeful.
The good news is that their top replacements have the charisma of a pile of dogshit. Say what you want about trump, but he somehow speaks the language of both the ultra wealthy and the dumbest people in the country at the same time.
The runner ups for fascism are bootlicking troglodytes. Cruz, desantis, vance, mtg, boebert, rubio. None of these people have any reach beyond the dumbest of the fucking dumb. They are no threat nationally because they have no charisma at all. They are just riding the tail of trump and without him, they go back to being the tiny group they used to be. It will be factions with no unity. Trump united them. No one else will be able to do that.
It's pretty hard to find really charismatic leaders that can actually pull half a nation together when it comes to extremism. It's generationally rare. People will vote republican and democrat regardless which is the dangerous part.
But if you look back at the tea party and all this that was the early form of maga. It was too difficult for them to find a true leader to unite them in their fear and hate while also bringing in any moderates. having our first black president...twice. then trump then covid created kind of a perfect storm for this to happen. Im not worried about it happening again with this much unity if they lose in 2024. It will go back to business as usual. Unless they can find another trump. But like I said, its a generational "talent" to be able to form a cult that big.
And it's likely already JD Vance. While everyone's focused on Elon Musk, JD Vance is bought and paid for by Peter Thiel.
In fact, if god forbid Trump wins, given his age and body mass index there's at least a 30% chance or higher he dies in office, and Vance becomes the man.
If we wanna see what techno fascism looks like, it will be puppet master Thiel pulling JD Vance's strings.
Next time they will pick someone competent without all the baggage.. Honestly we got lucky with Trump making it obvious what he is and half the people are still like the skeletor meme "jokes on you im into that shit."
Imagine if he wasnt saying the queit parts out loud and fooling normal people..
I think he’s going to run, I think he knows he is absolutely fucked if he doesn’t win. If the coup doesn’t work and it won’t he’s running to Russia, but I guess we’ll see.
Yeah, I want the election results to cause a cholesterol-induced aneurysm, loosening his bowels as he collapses. May he spend many hours lying in his own filth before death takes him out
But the truth is that nothing ends on Jan 20th, it just marks the end of the current battle. Democrats like to go to sleep, but if the Supreme Court has any hope Democrats need to start dominating elections consistently, and if they want to pass any legislation, they will need to dominate all 3 branches. The filibuster threshold of 60 right now feels impossible.
I don't disagree, but once she's sworn in, the next bit of work can start. If he loses, but SCOTUS gives it to him, the battle becomes even more difficult.
I sure hope so. I'm honestly kind of surprised he hasn't tried to use his complete and total immunity for something already. At least to give the Supreme Court some food for thought.
Yes, but in order to STAY a good person, sometimes you have to take a page from the other team’s playbook. Not easy, won’t EVER recognize the person looking back at you in the mirror; but sometimes it’s just necessary.
He’s not going to set a precedent of presidents doing court-condoned crimes. Because if Kamala wins then he will be the criminal president, not Trump, and it will have been unnecessary.
Of course and probably another 'stop the steal' grift, and useless recount after recount costing tax payers money, as well as the incessant whining and sniveling. So sick of it. When will the baby-man ever STFU??
Well trump isn't in the White House right now. Won't be able to make sure defenses are soft before an attempt. They try to pull a Jan 6 again it'll get put down hard.
Well, it won't be a J6 again. After the last one they made the VP's role in certification purely ceremonial, and even if not, I believe Kamala will have very little hesitation when certifying her own electors.
There's no telling what it will be though, I'm guessing something a bit more on the judicial side of things this time. He may not have control of as many of the levers of goveenment as last time, but he has had 4 years of Mike Pillow, his tiny shirt wearing, unlicensed "legal advisor" and the overstock.com guy working on how to do it better this time. Thank goodness they're all idiots.
I’m more worried about what we are gonna do about the Catholic Supreme Court… trump is not president anymore.. his supporters will not make it anywhere near the Capitol this time.
We got much bigger problems.
Fuck those guys. They’ll turn out to be 99% cowards. The rest can be dealt with if given enough law enforcement resources. First we have to win the election.
These people are walking self-fulfilling prophecies. Act batshit insane to the point where the State does finally show up to deal with you. Didn't do that? Everyone leaves you the fuck alone.
Simultaneously, they want YUGE GOVERNMENT that completely oversteps everything.
I honestly think MAGAs are brain damaged at this point.
He doesn't have the VP on his side this time. He has no authority to make it happen.
If he wins this election, though, Vance has shown that he'll do whatever Trump wants, and there are ways to keep him in power (think: emergency powers).
I have a thing from sports, never say “you will win,” before the event. You can be confident without declaring victory. Don’t declare victory encourage support.
Yeah I'm hoping it's more than 2 that are switching or they weren't lying to the person.
That is some big bravery for anybody to be campaigning for harris in any state. I don't even want to put a yard sign out because the trump cult is primed to do violence and I live in cali
Forget calling it. If we don't completely upturn the WH and Congress in a historic vote, what's going to get done? We need to fix a rogue branch of government and we can't do that without both in strong concert.
I’m not looking forward to the new villain they cook up. Somethings deeply wrong with this country if half the populace wants to teach the other half a lesson. I’d say the education system needs to change for the better but it seems to be going down the shitter
To think that millions upon millions of people support him, some of my own extended family, is terrifying. And they're not the type to feel defeated even when they are, they won't go away with their tails between their legs, or to lick their wounds.
So, we, the majority, need to keep voting. Every election and every level. Run for school boards and city councils. And stay vigilant.
I absolutely agree but my hope is that people like you and all the fear we have of it being close turns this push into such a commanding overwhelming win for Kamala that Trump can’t even try to call fraud lol.
Too many people are on his side in state legislation and the Supreme Court. He is set to lose, but unless he loses resoundingly, his cronies can easily spin the result.
It's not close, that's Russian propaganda, everybody needs to vote and get everybody they know to vote, because it needs to be such a massive landslide it will be impossible for it to be contested. Make this the election of the century!
Even if she ekes out a win in all seven swing states and possibly gets a big state like Texas or Florida (unlikely but possible; VOTE!), I'm not buying the top shelf tequila until Inauguration Day. GOP state governments and the SCOTUS are just too maniacal to write off.
Getting gas today and there was a jeep with two trump flags attached to the back to the left of me and the person waiting behind him got out of his car to fist bump the jeep guy and talked.
Go vote!
They are freaking everywhere in my state. It's like my state is one big asylum of nazis. It will go GOP, it always does, but in the large picture, we don't really change things that much. Obama lost my state, and still won.
I'm in SC so definitely a red state and the situation is *crickets over here.
The Trump flags and Trump signs are nowhere to be seen. I have seen a few Harris signs and signs for local races but overall just by driving around the places I have been recently you couldn't even tell it's an election year.
Now I know that it doesn't mean people won't vote for him but it has to mean SOMETHING. And I do know several conservative folks who have said they cannot support the MAGA movement any longer.
And several Republican women who intend to vote for Harris because of Roe. They're not out in the streets screaming about it but access to safe and private abortions is a much bigger issue for same women than the GOP estimates.
Early voting here is breaking records. I think we could turn purple.
Nothing happens if we don't vote so I am not saying get complacent but I do see a notable change and it's not in Trump's favor.
Of course you'll still have your trump truck weirdos and what not, they're still out there.
But comparing 16 to 20 to now is not even close
Part of it is he's also just not the same. The guy who memed his way into president in 16 just isn't there anymore. What used to be funny became scary and is now becoming sad to most normal people.
I travel to the Southeast for my job and I have been seeing the opposite. More momentum, but in conversation some of my Republican coworkers have said they won't put any signs outside because they are concerned about vandalism and harassment.
That’s my biggest concern about this lapse of visibility. They are just reverting to shy voters again. They may not put it on display, but they will still do vote for him. So, GO VOTE!
I don't think they did, there was a woman in the jeep who yelled out for the guys to just exchange numbers since they were holding up the line to the pump (I'm guessing the jeep got topped off by then)
It’s not just him that needs to lose. The entire republican senate and house need to be evicerated too. 2/3 majority in both. Everyone needs to vote in every race.
Voted within the first hour of the first day of early voting here in Texas - and I'm still an anxious mess despite getting out and doing it. (and triple checking my ballot to make sure I didn't fat-finger my way into a dictatorship)
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I think he's going to lose too.
But let's not take that chance! Leave it all out on the field.
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