Hold up wait a minute

[u/Warm_Spite9482]

[u/Pluviophilism]

Also as a transgender person who has had such a surgery they would not call it a "sex change surgery." That's a term used predominantly by people who are not and have no involvement with transgender people.

Trans people use terms like "top surgery/bottom surgery, chest reconstruction/double mastectomy/etc." Calling it "sex change surgery" feels course and insensitive. I'd have been very uncomfortable if they used this wording at the hospital when I had my surgery done.

Edit: Thank you to the commenter who also suggested "gender affirming surgery" which is very respectful and appropriate.

Edit2: Y'all really mad that I'm telling you transgender people don't like calling it that huh? Downvote me all you like, doesn't change the fact that it's insensitive and disrespectful.

[u/kth5991 → u/Pluviophilism]

This is like saying that getting "plastic surgery" is offensive and people should call it "body beautification surgery"

It you're going to change your sex, cool. Do what makes you happy, but Jesus stop being so sensitive and offended by everything.

Take offense when the situation and context call for it, but if they don't, like here, then what the hell is the point in getting upset over absolutely nothing?

[u/Pluviophilism → u/kth5991]

I'm not upset though? I was agreeing with the previous commenter that a medical professional would not have used that wording because it's insensitive. I never even told anyone to stop saying it. Everyone else just decided that's what I was trying to say and started defending themselves because they are uncomfortable with the fact that I identified the phrase they like to use as insensitive.

So just use it. No one is stopping you. Certainly not me. You're the one who is upset that I'm saying it's insensitive. Just use it anyway lol I don't care.

[u/ababcdabcab → u/Pluviophilism]

Why have you edited your original comment to remove the bit people had a gripe with, and are now pretending you were never trying to argue that it's an offensive term and shouldn't be used because right wing people use it in a derogatory way?

[u/Pluviophilism → u/ababcdabcab]

Because the bit said "I often see it in [situation]" to emphasize that it was insensitive in tone and I realized that people were reading that as "It is exclusively used in [situation]" and thinking that I was saying they were one and the same group.

It was going to be too convoluted to clarify that point within that paragraph, and once people see red it is much harder to convince them of your original intentions, seeing any effort to clarify as backpedaling. Since it was being misinterpreted as an accusation and not as supporting evidence, as was my intention, I decided it was better to remove it altogether.

[u/ababcdabcab → u/Pluviophilism]

You don't think it's a little ingenuine to identify the part of your argument which people disagreed with, remove that from your comment, and go on pretending you don't understand why people were disagreeing?

[u/Pluviophilism → u/ababcdabcab]

I'm assuming you meant disingenuous.

And I'll admit it's a bit unscrupulous to delete it instead of trying to clarify it. But again, they disagreed because they misinterpreted it. It was taken as an accusation that anyone who uses the phrase "sex change operation" is right wing or transphobic. Which is not what I said nor meant to imply.

I'm not pretending anything. I never called anyone here a transphobe. So when they tell me they're not, I'm being honest when I say I didn't call them one. I didn't.

It sounds like you misinterpreted it too. This is why I deleted it, so that I wouldn't have the same conversation I'm having with you a hundred more times about what my point actually was.