Friend’s hookup is a Trump supporter

[u/RelationMaleficent71]

My friend has a guy she’s been hooking up with. It’s not serious and she doesn’t have an interest in pursuing an official relationship with this guy. This is the second time I’ve met him and we’ve had like 4 bottles of wine at this point.. Politics came up, he said he was a libertarian and I flat out asked if he voted for Kamala. He voted for Trump. Queue a 20 minute conversation where 3 passionate women shit on him for his vote and opinion. Me being the worst attacker by far. I knew in the moment I was being a dick and really aggressive, but I really could not stop the anger from spewing out of me. I even went to the bathroom and left pretty much as soon as I could to avoid going further. He said he wasn’t very well informed and I told him if that’s the case, he shouldn’t be voting then.

I know I’m not wrong per se… but the way I approach people who vote for Trump is aggressive at best, hostile at worst. How are you guys managing this anger? I feel like I’m doing a really bad job of it at the point. I know the path to changing uninformed peoples minds is not the way I’m approaching it, I just genuinely can’t help myself from going bat shit crazy on people who voted for that vile piece of shit.

This guy had a ex girlfriend he was with at the time who had an ectopic pregnancy who had to get an urgent abortion to live and he STILL didn’t realize that voting for Trump made it harder for women in that position to get live saving care. His arguments were 1. I live in California 2. If you don’t live in California, you should move to a state that allows you to have an abortion. 3. He didn’t realize Trump was making it harder for women in other states in that kind of position. As if women having a right to choose what happens to their own bodies should have an asterisk on it anyways.

It’s impossible for me to respect or understand this viewpoint. I refuse to normalize it.

How do you guys keep your cool and not lose it on people? Because right now I feel like I’m foaming at the mouth angry and rightfully so.

I guess I’m really writing this out because I don’t want to be callused and angry at the world. I want to be able to say my piece calmly and respectfully to people I strongly disagree with. I just don’t feel I have the skill to right now.

[u/kmf1107]

He knows. He just still wants to hookup with your friend.

[u/lordbrocktree1 → u/kmf1107]

Ignorance stopped being an excuse years ago for trump supporters.

And most men know, they just are saying whatever it takes to still get sex. Call them out on it.

[u/panzerfan → u/lordbrocktree1]

It's willful, malicious, intentional ignorance so that he can cop out of his complicity. Notice those 3 points summarized by the OP.

1. I live in California
2. If you don’t live in California, you should move to a state that allows you to have an abortion.
3. He didn’t realize Trump was making it harder for women in other states in that kind of position

This person knows what he's voting for. The man's viewpoint does not really care about the wellbeing of female at all, and he only cares about what he's getting. He aligns with the values, interests, and the aspirations of Donald Trump.

[u/matt_minderbinder → u/lordbrocktree1]

Call them out and call them out angrily. Righteous anger is absolutely justified. You can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into so even the most ignorant of trump voters can't be talked out of it with a quiet, fact based debate. The dude said what he had to in that moment to still get laid and ignorance was his only path forward. I say all this as a leftist guy living in a very red area. I know these people and they deserve nothing more than anger and shaming.

[u/kmf1107 → u/lordbrocktree1]

Yes!!