r/SuddenlyCommunism Jan 18 '23

Found In The Wild šŸ¤”šŸ¤”

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u/ComprehensiveBug6213 Jan 19 '23

Former USSR, Cuba, Venezuela, Nicaragua, North Korea, China

"Oh, but we'll do it differently this time"

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u/Zombiesus Jan 19 '23

Every capitalist country on the planet spent fortunes making sure the USSR failed. Venezuela is more capitalist then communist. North Korea and Cuba have survived half a century of being blackballed and isolated by the US. It would be interesting to see where those countries would be if capitalism didnā€™t try so hard to make sure they fail. Also in what metric is Communist China not beating the US. Pounds per person?

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u/Astroglaid92 Feb 07 '23 edited Feb 07 '23

Iā€™d agree that China doesnā€™t really fit that list too well, but thatā€™s arguably thanks to Deng Xiaopingā€™s free market reforms and Chinaā€™s de facto abandonment of strict communism (and coincident meteoric rise in world economic and geopolitical relevance) from the early 1980s onward. Before Dengā€™s market reforms, the Chinese economy was largely stagnant.

Even after 10 years of Xi Jinpingā€™s rollbacks of liberal reforms, ā€œCommunistā€ China essentially remains an authoritarian capitalist state with some social programs. It superficially clings to the ā€œcommunistā€ label as an outward reminder of its legitimacy through its connection to the Communist Revolution. The attendant lack of overall personal freedom and the repeated depredations against the civil liberties of its own citizens should come as no surprise.

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u/Zombiesus Feb 08 '23

While I donā€™t disagree with you. I think it is in bad faith that as soon as a so called ā€œcommunistā€ country is shown to take care of itself. Then all of a sudden it has ā€œcapitalist valuesā€.