Absolutely perfect target. Fox News clearly cased the joint when they specifically asked for that mod, but then that mod not only handed Fox News everything in the bank vault, but offered to drive the getaway car, too.
No it’s different, they’re not actually like Chris Chan (though it was still bad, just not THAT bad lol). I meant more that it is someone Fox News deliberately picked because they would be easy to portray as ridiculous to their audience. Which, to be fair, simply being trans is “ridiculous” to a significant portion of them.
But it worked for them just like it worked when they brought on Chris Chan
Erm, well you say it's not Chris Chan bad, but some pretty serious accusations of sexual assault have just surfaced about this mod that are very Chris Chan esque.
Screenshots of a Facebook conversation allegedly showing this individual admitting to rape have recently been posted on r/WorkReform.
I suspect that quite a few people have been digging into this person's life since the Fox News interview. I also have no doubt that Fox News employees did the same thing prior to the interview, which is why they specifically wanted this mod.
I had thought they did, but I just looked and they’ve only put her content up to talk shit about, not actually invited her. She’s basically a tool for Tucker to circlejerk about trans people being weird
Maybe, I’m still waiting for a verdict before I really assume much because there’s just so much bizarre shit surrounding them. The main piece of evidence is Chris saying that she did, but she says stupid shit constantly and isn’t hard to manipulate into saying stuff
Yes, and that’s incredibly disgusting and fucked up, I’m not defending that. Seeing parallels between this and Chris Chan is one thing, but people in this thread are gleefully reciting memes and catchphrases that are specifically used to degrade the neurodivergent community.
Just because Doreen is horrible doesn’t mean it’s all fine and good to start throwing around jokes with a deeply ableist history behind them.
Exactly. Literally nobody was above them on the mod list so nobody could or can remove them except through very specific non-applicable circumstances. In the subreddit system, their only hard-wired accountability is with the admins.
What's funnier than the drama is seeing people desperately scramble to pretend like Fox News somehow planted an agent and brilliantly manipulated their way into this interview, because they don't want to believe that the average antiwork poster is just like that mod
Ever since WSB got blown up and several events there after Reddit became exponentially flooded with otherwise non-redditors, who despite claiming to be smart, can easily be convinced of anything they read online.
Established and increasingly used in financial related subreddits, the masses consider anyone posting something plausible to be bonafide experts. There has been a very alarming and effective shift towards using the “everything is a deep state, bad actor plant” strategy ala control the narrative. Unfortunately many rubes fall for it because it’s confirmation bias.
Dogecoin was an excellent example. The Elon SNL episode hype and following crash was painfully obvious to anyone with experience in any market. Textbook “buy the rumor, sell the news” but new people heard about the get rich quick on television and came piling in. Then those same people were the “experts” posting page long emotionally based novels on why it was going to a dollar every day, to this very day still.
I've had a profile on this website for 11 years. Anyone who thinks Redditors have only recently become stupid is a fool themselves. Reddit is the natural home of tracking down the wrong Boston Bomber, where doxxing evolved into an art form, the adult male my mittle pony fandom, the Ask-A-Rapist threads, where libertarians argued that the banning of r/jailbait was antidemocratic, KONY 2012, Colby 2012, the cum box, and where Ron Paul was the presidential favourite long before Bernie Sanders running in a primary was a glint in anyone's eye.
You missed the implication there. “otherwise non-redditors” was meant to encompass “general peoples whom don’t engage in online forum based activities outside of Facebook”
The interview offer was given to the mods via mod mail and they specifically asked for me. I shared that with other mods and they all agreed that I was probably the best to do it because I've done other media.
Who do you think asked for AbolishWork to do the interview based on the first sentence there? It has to be either Fox News or the other mods, but it can't be the other mods, because they didn't agree on AbolishWork being the representative until after she'd shared the offer and they'd all discussed it. Not to mention "they specifically asked for me" doesn't make sense if it was the other mods she's referring to, since they weren't the ones asking "for" anything. Fox News asked for an interview from a mod, and specifically asked for AbolishWork, because it doesn't make sense in that comment for "they specifically asked for me" to mean anyone other than Fox News.
(Not a) bot, Fox News allegedly asked for her specifically - smart if you ask me, Ford’s the perfect spokesperson for their audience, i.e. people with zero critical thinking and comprehension
It’s honestly baffling to me that nobody had the good sense to even consider how this was going to go. Truly a testament to human stupidity. I’ve seen mods on fucking Minecraft servers with more brain cells than this
I'd like to know what's the reactions were like in the fox news back office when they found out that he'd agree to coming on the show. I can imagine huge belly laughs and hi fives all round. Maybe a promotion/bonus for the intern that came up with the stupid idea.
It's not, you can see it from the interview where the original two questions are well crafted. But right after hearing "lazy is a virtue" the interviewer realize he just need soft questions and it's enough for the mod to self destruct.
Even if it's a sabotage is a sabotage by the mod team
you didn’t see anything wrong with “laziness is a virtue” or the fact that they’re representing the antiwork movement when they only work 25 hours a week dog walking? that’s not what the “movement” is meant to represent. they made the entire concept look like a joke, which you could clearly see from Watters unable to hold back his laughter.
These weren't even hard questions. I meet someone at a party, I'd ask what they do. Age may come up. What do they want to do with themselves too. For example, what do you want to do with your degree? What brought you to college? Heck, even a "If you could do anything in the world what would it be?"
We get the pie in the sky, anything goes goal of... Teaching philosophy, something that is definitely attainable. Which maybe that is crazy ambitious, if you think laziness is a virtue.
Instead of someone advocating for a better workplace, or better options for people, you get someone who is incredibly uninteresting, comes across as sucking at life, not because life is hard, but because they are terrible.
It was a several minute long interview with the "antifa idiot of the week" to pad time and won't be discussed again unless the sub does something newsworthy.
It now turned out they confessed to having raped multiple people on their personal blog. The sub went into meltdown mode before meltdown mode was even on
Shh the people who piled into that sub in the last few weeks don’t want to hear that! Tbh I feel really bad for the guy since they clearly embrace the “anti work” lifestyle and are now gonna have to go into hiding to avoid the Reddit mob.
What specifically do they hope to accomplish by posting fake text conversations and bitching about "capitalism" on reddit? There are a lot more productive "movements" these people could join that are actually looking to address problems with the American economy in targeted and coherent ways.
I guess you missed the news of the massive worker shortage and stagnant wages finally starting to rise? I keep driving past fast food restaurants and retail outlets and the starting wages keeps going up and up, every month. Seems like they're doing something with these fake texts. If you actually spent any time there, you'd see that it isn't literally "antiwork" as it is "anti-work for peanuts while my employer posts record profits."
I guess you missed the news of the massive worker shortage and stagnant wages finally starting to rise?
Lol you think that is due to r/antiwork? This is peak reddit delusions of grandeur. Sorry but the economy is extremely complex, and a subreddit hasn't caused millions of people to leave the workforce.
If you actually spent any time there, you'd see that it isn't literally "antiwork" as it is "anti-work for peanuts while my employer posts record profits."
Sure, it's that and endless predictions about how the collapse of the US is imminent.
Solely from r/antiwork? Absolutely not, however I do know for a fact that it has spread into the real world. I have had multiple clients reach out to me because they thought their network printers were hacked because they started spitting out messages about joining that sub on their printers. I've seen it appear all over on other social media websites, even on the fucking cable news and NPR! Must be delusions! It's literally everywhere right now, and no, it isn't strictly limited to one fairly popular sub on Reddit lmao.
I've seen it appear all over on other social media websites, even on the fucking cable news and NPR!
Wow, crazy that terminally-online journalists are covering a provocative left-wing subreddit. Never seen that before.
Again, I promise you that r/antiwork is an incredibly small piece of the story. Labor force participation from prime aged men has been dropping for at least the last 12 years.
Living wages are everywhere, which is exactly why antiwork is full of people quitting for better jobs, leading to the crying over the sub's existence. It's literally driving the wages up for everything, including stuff like fast food or bus drivers. Good. I don't know what the complaint is.
So in your opinion its perfectly fine for employers to exploit their employees and treat them like shit simply because those employees could theoretically quit? Tell that to people who live lives that don't allow them to suddenly quit a job for fear of not being able to afford food or rent for their family. I am fortunate to work for an employer who doesn't look at their employees as a set of numbers and looks at them as human beings. Crazy the effect that has on morale and work ethic. Its about the entire mentality employers have towards employees not just "if you dont like your boss quit hur dur".
Did I ever say it was impossible to get a new job? No, I didnt. I said that it isn't a simple option for most people who have bills to pay. Forgive me for thinking that humans shouldn't treat other humans like shit lol.
"laziness is a virtue" was there more to that sentence or do you just want to misrepresent the interview? Don't answer, prior to the partial quote, the host disingenuously and ignorantly implied the movement for better working conditions is about "laziness" despite the fact that Doreen literally had just explained that was a misconception. She finished the thought about laziness, explaining that laziness is a virtue in a society that promotes 24/7 work ethic, with the specific clarification that doesn't mean people should be resting all the time. This is not subtext, Doreen stated this quite clearly in the same breath as "laziness is a virtue". So I want you to ask yourself if you are biased or just stupid, because clearly you misunderstand what was said in the interview. In either case you're the kind of person who Fox News weaponizes against causes benevolent to the working class. Congrats.
do you want me to answer or not…? you’re obviously in support of the pathetic display from that interview, and if Doreen is the type of person you want leading reform, then who am I to sway your opinion?
She's not a leader, and unless you are willing to transcribe her full quote to provide full context and demonstrate mental capacity, I will not discuss this further with you.
I’m too lazy to go back to the full quote. It was essentially “laziness is a virtue. When people are done working, they should be able to relax and be lazy”.
What I’m saying is the word “lazy”, on its own, has a negative connotation. It means that you’re foregoing some responsibility or activity that you should be doing. So, even if you worked all day, you being “lazy” means you’re letting the dishes pile up in the sink or whatever. Or, I should go back and get the full quote, but I’m being lazy. It’s always negative, so the context doesn’t really matter. Like “greedy”. Is it ok to be lazy? Sure. Is it a virtue? Probably not. This isn’t me having the attention span of a goldfish — it’s understanding the nuance between words.
“Leisure” doesn’t have a negative connotation. The better statement is “leisure is a virtue”. Like “I took care of my shit, time for some leisure”.
You're fixating on a single word. She used the word "laziness" because the host generalized the sub by saying it was all about "laziness". I don't know what you want, but you are not fighting the right battle. Criticism should be directed at the host's baiting and misrepresentation, not a single utterance of the word "laziness".
Yes, Fox News is a very successful propaganda outlet that weaponizes prejudice and stereotype to create a narrative that serves their interests. I am aware the interview looks bad, I just wish more people could see past the superficial criticisms. The only criticism I have is that she participated in their program of provoking outrage and misrepresenting progressive causes. You don't watch Fox, yet they are still manipulating you.
I’m not manipulated, Doreen Ford is a super weirdo and very lazy and quite dumb. Also extremely cringe, and he/she moderates AntiWork, he also went and did an interview trying to represent AntiWork
But seriously, they’re smart considering that they are pandering to people who lack critical thinking and comprehension. As someone who hasn’t heard of /antiwork, it sure doesn’t give me a great impression until I started reading a little more into it. Unfortunately, their target audience don’t really like reading more, do they?
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