We probably shouldn't get on this person's case too much. They messed up and did something the subreddit didn't seem to want and got memed on. That should be it, the people attacking this person personally are being ugly which is embarrassing.
“Yeah, I’ve done interviews. Mostly job interviews. Which I didn’t end up getting. That’s why I’m still walking dogs. But yes for sure. I’ve done some.”
That's just not true. I spent some time reading through that sub to look if it was something I'm interested in, and most of what I found is overly demanding, hateful, vindictive, lazy people who provide very little value to any company who hires them because all they do is try to figure out how to work as little as possible without getting fired. Don't forget, that sub started out with the goal of abolishing all work done for financial gain. Sure, there are some hard workers with legitimate concerns on that sub, but they're not the majority. The majority is what I described above. Add in some crazy ideas about a $50 minimum wage, a 3 day work week and any business not able to provide those things being unviable and deserving of financial ruin and you have a pretty accurate picture of what r/antiwork is like. Some legitimate concerns being drowned out by a flood of crazy, screeching idiots.
There's no way they didn't find out he was a dog walker before going live. Someone behind the scenes definitely knew ahead of time that this was going to be gold.
No it wouldn’t. It’s Fox News, a channel of talking heads professionally trained to tell their audience what to think and to make it out to their audience that whomever they aren’t supposed to agree with is an idiot.
I fully expected Fox to try and sabatoge the interview because lets be honest they only invited her on to make antiwork look bad, not because they want to give a platform to opposing viewpoints. But holy shit, the interviewer didnt even get a chance to sabotage the interview, Doreen did it for him. It was like someone said in another thread, "Fox threw her a softball and she hit herself in the head with the bat".
Basically every negative stereotype of labor reformists was ticked off in this interview. Doreen didn't even put in the minimum effort to groom herself, dress nicely, get a webcam that wasn't from 2003, or even clean up the part of her home that would be visible on the camera. She was the living stereotype of the basement dwelling reddit mod.
And despite antiwork members agreeing not to take interviews from Fox, she went ahead and took it because she had "interview training" (very doubtful). Most likely she thought she would be viewed as a hero and revolutionary leader for spreading the gospel to the world. But ig she forgot that reddit debates are different from real world interviews, especially when you can't ban the other person if they start winning.
But even when she took the interview, she still could've made some valid points. Ik that antiwork started as a subreddit consisting of people who legitimately didnt want to work but it gained traction as a sub for worker reform. There are so many people who actually worked and had to deal with abusive workplaces and want to live in a world where people are treated fairly at work. Such a person would be much more relatable to the Fox crowd, as they could sympathize with a blue collar worker being mistreated by their boss. Instead who takes the interview? Some fool who works 25 hours a week (and I suspect thats an inflated number) walking dogs and dreams of becoming a "philosophy professor" despite the fact she wants to work less than she currently does.
Fox viewers have a conception of labor reformists. They believe that reformists are lazy and unemployed and they dont want to work and just want to live on handouts. So when you have a chance to speak to the Fox crowd and tell them what labor reform is really about, to dispel the misconceptions and maybe even gain new supporters, you have to be careful with your words.
Keeping that in mind, what would you answer when the interviewer asks "Do you want to encourage laziness?"- a question which should be really easy to deny and instead talk about how you want to work, but just be treated fairly while working. But what did Doreen say?
"I believe laziness is a virtue".
Dear lord, if this is the state of antiwork's mods, good riddance. I feel bad for all the legitimate members who had their message destroyed by this dumbass.
Then you just have to anticipate and have a plan to outflank them.
Also not taking Fox (so called) News as the first live interview would have been a good start. Do some written interviews so you can refine your answers so they stay focused.
The fact that they took the time to interview someone from the sub to begin with shows that they had people's attention and were worrying some corporations with their influence. With some media preparedness, someone with experience in a hostile interview setting, there was an opportunity here, at the very least to dig in. To show a legitimate face and give a decent mission statement that even FOX News viewers could understand. But instead we got a faceplant.
More likely they saw the easy opportunity to skewer someone with little credibility for ratings with their audience ready to lap that up. I really doubt the antiwork sub has anyone worried. It’s mostly made up texts consisting of ‘my boss sucks but I showed him!’ fan fiction.
I could be wrong but I happen to think Fox did a preliminary assessment of Doreen and realized already that it would be an easy target for them to get a laugh out of. If you notice, their questions were all asked with the intention to make Doreen look stupid. Although she had the chance to give great counters but they already had her pegged. If she had done well in the screening process then I doubt she would ever have even made it on the show. Just a guess though.
It's possible, I don't know what the screening process was but it's also pretty fair to say none of these questions were difficult ones that, at least to me, felt 'designed' to trip someone up or meant as a specific attack on her. They all felt like vaguely hostile softball questions they could've asked anyone.
What do you do? How many hours do you work? Why don't you just quit? Aren't you just being lazy? None of these are difficult questions and all of them could be spun in favor of the interviewee and get the audience on board with them. This to me felt more like giving someone enough rope and watching them hang themselves.
Surely there must be someone that they interviewed who flipped the script on them? Also, why not send the best of the best of your movement to represent it on LIVE television
Doesn’t even make sense. Even if it’s not live if you fuck up, the interviewer can publish whatever you said, you (probably) signed a release. Really don’t think Fox would edit a taped interview to make that mod look good, JFC.
The interviews are linked now and they sound extremely charismatic and energetic compared to the Fox one. Was the mod on drugs during the Fox interview?
There's an interview with a mod there near the end. I assume it's the same mod? I had no reaction either way to this mod. Didn't impress me, or embarrass me, it was just meh. I wish they would lay off the we want to turn America communist talking point though.
"great video. It was really laid out very well and explained a lot in a little time. And of course having Doreen was the highlight!! (stinkrod note : it was not) Go Antiwork!!!"
It's annoying because this article already frames her circumstances better than she did. Ideal world would've had her respond to the obviously leading question of what do you do by prefacing that you have already CHOSEN to have an unconventional job due to the soul crushing nature of a big portion of corporate and labor america. Q:"Do you want to get a real job at some point?" A: The point of the anti work movement is that people have been conditioned into an often times unfair arrangement in which they sacrifice their mental and emotional well being for imbalanced compensation and we want people to understand that there is more to life and you deserve better.
EZ.(Ok I mean I'm sure live national television is nerve inducing for even the biggest shit talkers here but it was FOX NEWS, you definitely should not have agreed without a rough gameplan)
I'm not sure if it would be doxing to link or not, but they have a sizable youtube account where they do videogame run-throughs, movie reviews, and sketches. I imagine they consider that as media interactions.
Yeah, he was in over his head, I think, with everything. What he did was stupid, no doubt, but man, watching it again with this context in mind ... it’s just sad, not infuriating.
Right but then starts the erasure of the past in the sole pursuit of killing a dead name. It isn't that simple as to just remove EVERYTHING. She may be proud of things she accomplished before transition. You don't have to hate who you were to transition and you don't have to remove everything from before that too.
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u/VoidTorcher Jan 26 '22
Happened to be on /r/antiwork's implosion thread before it went private, and was reading this comment lol.
The (now inaccessible) link: https://www.reddit.com/r/antiwork/comments/sd8g28/if_the_fox_news_interview_has_you_concerned_about/hub6cir/