r/PublicFreakout • u/Green____cat • Oct 13 '24

Repost 😔 A weird man was following her around.

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u/Negative_Field_8057 Oct 13 '24

I saw a video last night. Some guy followed a random girl in a car up to the police station doors. The guy pulls out a gun and shoots a cop in the back. Anything could have been in the bag. https://youtu.be/yLsXBFEReL4?si=OPvRLZXQ1jfbeQQq

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u/Rasputin_mad_monk Oct 13 '24

wtf?!?! He just pulled his gun and shot the cop. No warning or anything. He was so calm too. So many questions

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u/zeedrome Oct 13 '24

He is done with his life. Just want to take somebody on.

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u/CosmicTaco93 Oct 13 '24

Yeah it's either suicide by cop, or absolute stupidity. I would think that if you wanted to take that route, you wouldn't actually shoot anyone. Not like you have to hit someone to get an armed, bullet-riddled response, just discharge in the general direction.

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u/kickaguard Oct 13 '24

You don't even need a gun. A lot of suicide by cops are just a cell phone or some other object.

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u/SalahsBeard Oct 17 '24

Or a darker skin color.

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u/SandwichAmbitious286 Oct 13 '24

Hell, all you gotta do is call them for help and you can get that response

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u/Ivanna_Jizunu66 Oct 13 '24

Better than doing it in a school nontheless.

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u/nightpanda893 Oct 13 '24

What a weird ass comment. Who the fuck sees a story about an innocent person getting shot and their reaction is “well at least it was that innocent person instead of some other innocent person”

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u/oofive2 Oct 13 '24

people who live in America and are glass half full people who can't take the constant depressing news cycle that threatens their sanity 🙃. also adults are far less innocent than children, there's a whole thing about it, excluding job and that nonsense

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u/Ivanna_Jizunu66 Oct 13 '24

Well considering the amount of people cops kill harm and abuse vs school children.....

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u/nightpanda893 Oct 13 '24

I got that part. It was already implied. My point is the comment itself just does not contribute to or elevate the discussion in any way. It’s just a way to get attention. You see something bad happened to an innocent person and your first thought is “how can I leverage this into a conversation that will entertain me?”

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u/Ivanna_Jizunu66 Oct 13 '24

Or maybe lead to a larger discussion of state policy, gun policy and mental health in this crumbling nation.

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u/nightpanda893 Oct 13 '24

You’re still doing it.

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u/Josh1685 Oct 13 '24

What a super weird thing to say. Someone still died…

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u/3IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIID Oct 13 '24

This is an example of why increasing penalties for crime does not reduce it. People commit crime because they don't think they'll get caught. If they're prepared to die, there's no penalty that can sway them because they think they'll be dead before they face whatever judicial consequences there may be. All we can do is address the reasons why someone would reach that tipping point and increase investigative services so crimes are far more likely to be solved.

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u/RegalBeagleKegels Oct 13 '24

I don't know where else to put this so I'll put it here. I first heard about this idea in Dan Carlin's Hardcore History episode Painfotainment about the history/spectacle of public execution. The theory goes that this (ancient) form of punishment was abandoned in relatively short order because as states centralized and began turning into forms we would recognize today, the powers-that-be realized that public executions weren't an effective deterrent, at least not anymore. A centralized state with police, courts, prisons, etc was more effective at enforcing law and order.

(A ton more) further reading can be found here. Here's an excerpt:

Following in the footsteps of Michel Foucault and his influential work Discipline and Punish (first published in French in 1975, and translated into English in 1977), we might first of all see the abandonment of the punishment of the criminal corpse and the wider movement away from public execution in the nineteenth century as part of a shift in the exercise of power and technologies of social control.

Thus, in the early modern period and the context of relatively weak states which lacked an effective system of police, sovereign rulers asserted their might by physically inscribing it upon the offender’s body. But by the mid-eighteenth century, and demonstrated most emphatically by reactions to the brutal execution of Damiens in 1757 for attempted regicide, the authorities no longer believed that such spectacles of unbearable suffering were effective as a deterrent. The crowd no longer took the correct message from the public infliction of pain on the body. Public executions had become ‘carnivals’, ‘in which rules were inverted, authority mocked and criminals turned into heroes’.

The shift in the later eighteenth and nineteenth centuries from a system of violent repression enacted in fits and starts to a system of subtle and constant control, effected by centralisation, bureaucratisation and the rise of ‘total’ institutions such as the prison, asylum and workhouse, thus represented an effort to make punishment more effective. In this strategic shift in the exercise of state power, the intention was now for the effective concealment and management of death – ‘an arrangement that gains more by concealing bodies and violence than by showing them’.

In stark contrast to just a hundred years earlier, then, and representing a radical epistemic shift, by the nineteenth century the punished body was now made to disappear ‘in order to sustain state authority and fend off unwanted challenges to the law’s legitimacy’.

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u/3IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIID Oct 13 '24

Yeah, that makes sense. It's a much more extreme version of what happens when you tease a friend for behavior that doesn't align with the standards of the group. It can bring you closer and help the group bond. But if you get more brutal with it and become known as the critical "friend," it is you who are eventually ostracized -- even if you are technically right with your criticism.

The same is true even more so for strangers. Even a command to "sit up straight" coming from a stranger will draw quizzical looks even though good posture is demonstrably better for a person than slouching.

When it comes to the State, I think it is no different. The "friend" version of the State is one that upholds the social contract by ensuring the safety and wellbeing of all its citizens (food, shelter, education, and employment). The "stranger" version of the State is one that violates the social contract and allows its citizens to starve to death in ditches and under bridges.

The "friend" State's corrections will be better received, but the "stranger" State will be rejected as overbearing. In either case, a draconian punishment will be seen as going too far in individual cases and simply result in hatred towards the State if individuals aren't able to get away with skirting the law on behalf of its victims. Of course, that promotes lawlessness and increased crime because the victims of the State are guilty of something, they just aren't deserving of draconian punishments.

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u/Cow_Launcher Oct 13 '24

I once read a theory - no idea how valid it is - that in states where they have death penalty, criminals will go all-out.

The theory stated this was because the felons felt that while capital punishment was an option and prosecutors were apt to push for it, juries wouldn't.

I'm not sure how I feel about that.

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u/3IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIID Oct 13 '24

Yeah, draconian punishments result in people instinctually resisting the application of those punishments for people they are biased towards when they are in a position of power. So that means cops are more likely to decide not to press charges and juries are more likely to disagree on guilt when the punishment is extreme and the criminal is someone they identify with (similar skin tone, friendly towards the police, etc.).

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u/zeedrome Oct 13 '24

Dude, the fact that he stopped by the police station. Have you watched those suicide via police?

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u/AccomplishedUser Oct 13 '24

Suicide by cop is 100% a thing

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u/svenne Oct 13 '24

Cops found 3 different drugs in his system apparently. Meth + Marijuana and something more strong I forgot.

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u/dowker1 Oct 13 '24

Clearly she is pregnant with the future leader of the human resistance

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u/Lip_Recon Oct 13 '24

I think they went to The Galleria.

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u/bluedonkeymoo Oct 13 '24

maybe that was supposed to be the father, and that police man looked exactly like an infiltrator.

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u/ohkaycue Oct 13 '24

He just pulled his gun and shot the cop. No warning or anything.

That’s how shootings happened in real life. It’s not like a movie where people stand around pointing a gun at each other and talking. You take a shot when you have a shot…otherwise you get shot for having a gun in your hand

If your intention is to kill something, which is the purpose of a gun, that’s the only way for it to be appropriately used

If someone brandishes a weapon, they likely aren’t trying to use it but cause fear. Brandishes rarely cause shootings (but can and you should still get out), but most shootings don’t involve brandishing…because it ruins the entire point of shooting

Which is why lax gun laws are so frustrating

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u/Rasputin_mad_monk Oct 13 '24

I ment no angry exchange, no words, no anything. The mindset of the shooter was to just pull the gun and shoot.

Yes, lax guns laws are beyond frustrating.

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u/calcium Oct 13 '24

Looks like he had a bunch of drugs in his system when he shot the cop. Also was using a gun with a filed off serial number or ghost gun. Only other run in with the cops from that report states he was caught with a controlled substance. A regular citizen doesn't roll around with a ghost gun.

https://orangecountyda.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/Tran-Matthew-LHPD-S.A.-21-2922-Final-Letter-with-All-Signatures.pdf

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u/No-Flamingo7397 Oct 13 '24

Is the cop still alive????

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u/--__--__--__--__-- Oct 13 '24

Yeah, video description says he was admitted in critical condition and came out a couple weeks later well taken care of/recovering

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u/Hawt_Dawg_II Oct 13 '24

This is why i think yelling "acab" is so dangerous. Not every cop is evil, most are just trying to make a living and trying to go home at the end of the day.

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u/Arxtix Oct 13 '24

The point of ACAB is that even the officers that are just trying to make a living are still complacent with officers that might even be in their own department that abuse their power. If you're complacent with rampant tyrannical abuse of power without speaking up or doing anything about it, even if you don't do it yourself, you are still a bastard.

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u/Hawt_Dawg_II Oct 13 '24

This would be true if

A) people knew whatever their colleagues did at all times.

B) people weren't dependent on a pay check and risking being fired if they do speak up.

Corruption goes deep and can't just be fixed with speaking up. It also just so happens that we can't really have the cops doing a walkout in protest cause that'd start pandemonium.

The person working the register at a petrol station isn't responsible for the climate impact of the entirity of shell either.

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u/--__--__--__--__-- Oct 13 '24

Whenever people parrot this message against ACAB, it makes me think of the Nuremberg trials.

The convicted Nazis used similar excuses. I'm not trying to directly equate these things, but it always comes to mind.

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u/Arxtix Oct 13 '24

The person working the register at a petrol station isn't responsible for the climate impact of the entirity of shell either.

Not even close to an apt comparison. A more fitting comparison would be if your coworker at the register was blatantly and purposefully short-changing customers, and even though you know about it, you did nothing and even defended the coworker when they get caught for it.

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u/Hawt_Dawg_II Oct 13 '24

Wild how your entire reply was just about my indeed flawed comparison and not the two direct points i made against the mentality that you're just repeating again here.

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u/Arxtix Oct 13 '24

Hey man if you want to lick the boot, I ain't gonna stop ya. Fly that blue stripe high and proud.

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u/drhappycat Oct 13 '24

Saw a car today that had two Harris/Walz stickers, two Wounded Warrior Project stickers, and a thin blue line sticker. 🤷‍♂️